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and today i welcome maria stoya to the
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maria is a renowned pediatrician and
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family therapist based in germany
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she specializes in examining the root
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cause of childhood behavioral patterns
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she's experienced the ups and downs of
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raising three of her own children and as
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a doctor for germany's education system
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she has advised more than
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20 000 parents on childhood behavioral
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her mission today is to help parents
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around the world realize how their own
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childhood experiences influence
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their habits expectations and belief
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she also helps parents understand how
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they can unconsciously transmit these
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expectations and their beliefs to their
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children so without further ado
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i bring maria into the show how are you
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i'm wonderful thank you very much karen
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i am doing really really well i'm so
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excited to have you on the show
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your book is the topic of it of course
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is just it's a great it's a great topic
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and we're going to jump into that in
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i want to thank you you're coming in
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from germany so we are actually
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doing the show in different time zones
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which is always fun especially when the
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time changes in one country and not the
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yeah which is kind of crazy um i i don't
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really get that all the time but
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that's the way it is so today's topic
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is actually the title of your book
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breaking your loyalty
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contract shattering the mirror effect
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and children so jumping in how long have
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and when did you decide you wanted to
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write oh i started in
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february when i wanted to go to a
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toronto and i stuck because of the
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corona crisis and the lockdown i mean
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i was there in canada and
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i lived in a small house for two months
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by myself and then i started writing the
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it gave you something to do i guess
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while you were stepping out to struggle
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and and to have something to do yeah oh
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you're a pediatrician and a family
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writing this book was actually a natural
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progression for you russ
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right i mean that it's you took your
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your knowledge your experience and
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how this book came about yeah i took my
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knowledge from the last 30 years in the
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to write it in short and understandable
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sentences and really short
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it's only 66 pages i think so that
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everybody is able to read it
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to the end and not stop after 50
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pages because there are 100 left
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because i really want every parent uh
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to have the possibility to read the
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that makes me laugh because i totally
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you you've got me because i i tend to
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you know i get too far into a book and
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it's like oh gosh there's another you
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200 pages so you're you're a woman after
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my own uh thoughts here um so
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why did you write this book what was the
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actual inspiration for writing this
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uh the inspiration is that uh when i or
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all right i am a mother of three and
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they were young i had a lot of
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issues when i uh try to follow
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um how to raise a child
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it's like to do this do this do this and
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then it doesn't work with my children or
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with me and my children and then i
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i thought maybe i'm i'm wrong or the
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children are wrong or something like
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it's uh there is no possibility really
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children with how-to comments
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you have to find out why you react like
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and then you will find your own
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individual way to raise children
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so you want to help parents actually
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how their own childhood experiences
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influence their habits expectations and
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belief systems why is that so important
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yeah because you know when you maybe
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from your childhood is that boys
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are uh difficult to raise then
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you have the expectation to your own boy
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that he will be difficult
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and then your boy you know he feels that
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and he give gives you the good that he
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is complicated and difficult to raise
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and he will not be a smart one because
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from your childhood leads the child to
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as you uh expect him to be
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are you saying that we as parents
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are responsible for some of the things
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the negative things that our kids do
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and we don't even know that we're doing
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it yeah i go a step further i say
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a misbehavior of a child is an indicator
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for a parent to investigate their own
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and not to just change
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the the how to educate it's
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really to have a look in your own
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why do you think about why
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where your habit came from or you have
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to investigate your childhood and not
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see what's wrong with the child
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it's really your your own experiences is
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and the o you're saying germany
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so give me an example how would give me
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an example how something from a parent's
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own experiences beliefs actually plays
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in a role in their kids can you give me
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oh um maybe a a child has a mother
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uh that has a depre or is depressive has
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and then the child uh because of her own
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childhood she wasn't allowed
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to have fun and be happy so she
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separated this part of her personality
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wasn't allowed to to express happiness
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she will not be fun and happy with her
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and then the same thing
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is again there that the child isn't
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and have fun because the mother will not
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and then you know there happens another
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thing on the subconscious mind
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that now the child feels
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that the child miss a part of the
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and then uh the child give this
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part of of its personality as a gift to
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the mother because the child
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uh thinks when i give my fun and
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happiness to my mother
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then she will be complete and then she
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happy and have fun but the mother will
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so nobody no another mother nor the
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do live this part of their personality
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so it's that sounds very frustrating to
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me as a child i'm sure i mean it's like
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they're they're trying and and and yet
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on the other hand the parent is moving
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forward what they brought from their
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um so you titled if you're just tuning
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in everyone we're talking with maria
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breaking the loyalty contract what's the
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significance of the title
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yeah as i just uh declared is when you
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break your loyalty contract with your
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parent and you say i'm no longer
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responsible for your herds of your
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then you are able to take your part of
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your personality that you gave as a gift
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back to you and you can live that part
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and live your whole your whole aspects
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and you talk about shattering the mirror
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effect so what is the mirror effect
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the mirror effect is that in this family
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the forbid to be forbidden happy and
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uh to be happy and have fun goes from
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one generation to the next generation
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nobody is happy in in this family i
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and this is mirror mirror mirror
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so i mean obviously you're able to bring
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a lot of your background into this i
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mean or all of your background you're a
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pediatrician you're a therapist so you
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come to this not just as a storyteller
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you come to this as an
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expert in your field you understand
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children your pediatrician
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your therapist you understand how the
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that get puts you in a unique position i
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to be able to approach this topic not
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everyone would be able to approach the
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topic the way you are approaching this
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um what do you hope readers are going to
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take away from this book i mean they're
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going to read it it's short you said
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so they're going to read the book and
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what do you hope they do after they
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yeah the first thing is that they have a
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bigger awareness of about what happens
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that they think about because the most
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you can investigate because you remember
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from your childhood and the next step
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they ask questions and i will answer all
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and help them finding out
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what kind of their experiences from
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are stopping them from living this
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today as an adult and it's really easy
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when you are a parent then you get uh
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the misbehavior of a child as an
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indicator if you are not a
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parent you know you you can withdraw a
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relationship when a relationship brings
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just close the door and say i will not
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no longer be together with you
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then you are not changing and not
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investigating and the child is
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uh yeah their relationships uh is
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uh last a whole life and then you have
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no possibility uh to withdraw the
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relationship you cannot say
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after three years old i do not like the
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child any longer who
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wants this stride i i take another one
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as you can do it with relationships
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that's an interesting point um you say
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childhood what does it mean to explore
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your childhood is that dig deep do you
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go into psychoanalysis
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what does that mean to explore your
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childhood it means that you figure out
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what feelings or what repetition
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feels familiar familiar to you and
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you can feel if you repeat
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things every day every time or
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every situation and you are not really
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how you react then you can remember
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when was in the first situation when i
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and then step by step you go deeper or
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younger areas of your life
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and then you are able to see
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how you repeat it and uh get an
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idea about what what uh kind of
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uh you missed with your parents and then
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you can you can try to visualize
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how uh parents had been
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uh that were suitable for you and then
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you it's it's a it's not just
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do it and then uh stop having these
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issues that would be nice right that
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just say just just just do it um i know
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that your vision is to create a
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worldwide awareness of the developmental
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needs of children so how can we do that
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what does that exactly look like yeah we
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everybody should know what the essential
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needs of children are in the world
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we should uh cherish mothers and parents
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about the work they do
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and um we should uh you know when
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what children need then uh
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um there is another awareness and
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we do not uh judge parents about when
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shows misbehavior and we have uh
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more um knowledge about this i i think
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this would change a lot of things so
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if you look at the essential essential
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the baby needs one relationship
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to one person and not changing
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they know they really need need a
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care so this is one point we often
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um do not recognize that this is uh
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really important uh for for a little
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and and i'm sure that comes into play
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for kids that are are uh in foster care
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where they're born to mothers who who
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they don't have that bonding with the
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mother so when you say essential
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you are specifically referring to the
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to to the what they need from a a
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or psychology way or essential needs
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they need to be fed a certain kind of
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without playing yeah this is these are
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not psycho psychotropic or on uh it's a
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we have physical needs and
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and emotional needs and a lot of time
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we uh ignore the emotional needs the
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essential emotional needs you know
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when when you uh uh the child uh that is
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a a high level of the stress hormone
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cortisol and you have to calm them down
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they are not able to do this by
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to get the stress hormone level
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uh uh increased and this is no decrease
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right right and then uh these are things
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you should know that it's not good if
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leave the child or the baby by
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uh wait until they stop crying you have
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and and calm them down it's it's a
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of what the essential emotional needs
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so let's talk about the process of
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writing um this is your first book right
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did this in a couple of months you were
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stuck in your your space and you you
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wrote this book was it an enjoyable
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process do you plan on doing it again
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so you want to hear the truth how is the
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no it's a really hard process and
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to get it done in this short concise way
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break all the stuff down to to earth
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down to understandable words
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and sentences uh i think i would
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uh like to create a workbook for parents
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so they are more able to go through it
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it just not only give them ideas and
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then they are alone with their ideas
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i would like to create a workbook and
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uh do something like memberships though
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get me live and ask me questions and i
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could um go with them uh part of the way
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to investigate the childhood their child
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so workbook is next not necessarily
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you're writing another book
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at this point you're not you're not
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quite there yet that you want to do
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another book that's what i did but i
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please do and you'll come back on and
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we'll talk about it when you wrote this
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first write it as an outline and then
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you wrote around the outline or did you
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or just flow a country you just sat down
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and the words just came out you just
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no i first wrote down uh the chapters
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way i found it was the most uh asked
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questions from parents i got
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and uh there were the seven most asked
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uh set them as the chapter lines and
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i tried to get uh these
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filled with content and uh you know i
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examples uh to declare how uh um
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or to explain the theory with practical
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uh examples this was then it was very
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easy when i got this yeah
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but the the other different difficult
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thing was to get it in proper english
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so that everyone in english would
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understand it there are a lot of terms
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in german they do not fit with
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english language yeah so
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so this has been published in english as
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well as was it also published in german
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no it's only in english and uh the most
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german people speak english but the most
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people do not speak german only read
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i thought yeah but your goal was to get
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to to the an english-speaking world
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so it wherever wherever those
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english-speaking people are
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in the united states in this case that's
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where we're doing the show from
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um is is to do this what is the best
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advice that you can give
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to somebody who has a book inside of
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they're thinking you know what now's the
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time to do it i listened to maria talk
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she took advantage of of something that
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was going on in our world
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what is the best advice you can give
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somebody who's decided you know what i
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think i have a book in me how do you
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just believe in yourself and
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and think that you can do it and
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start you can then correct those things
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because it's a process
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and every day you will get better
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in this process and then uh it's uh
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from day to day it's easier to to write
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your book out from the head on to the
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so i want to show a copy of the book in
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the screen right now it's called
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breaking your loyalty contract
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shattering the mirror effect between
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parents and children
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um a link to the book is sitting in the
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so make sure you go take a look at it
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because we'd love for you to go pick up
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we know that this is going to be um
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something that's beneficial i really
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no matter what age your kids are um you
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know i have older kids i have a 35 and a
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children they're not children
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young adults but i am sure that um the
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concepts and the ideas that you have
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mentioned in your book and that you
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write about in your book
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um are going to i'm going to be able to
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as as a parent and might not be able to
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do as much as i could have done it
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when my kids were younger in terms of
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but um certainly it's something that i
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no matter how old their children are
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would you agree would would benefit from
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yeah although the the children of the
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are older you know when you when they
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your habit or your paradigm or your
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loyalty contract then you you uh
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function as a role model for them and
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is the this is independent from their
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so they can see it's possible to change
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and then maybe they find their own way
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to get rid of the loyalty contracts they
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have with you and maybe
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you're able to talk about
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with them about what you maybe would
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in another way if you had known it
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sort of duel as i do not as i say so as
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we as parents as we change and we
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we elevate ourselves and we we think
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in terms of how our past has affected
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who we are today and if we make those
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it makes perfect sense that no matter
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what age our children are
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if they see that change they might be
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address those changes in themselves for
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those of you i'm sure there's a lot of
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you are wondering how do we stay in
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we're going to let you know you can go
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to her website mariah.com we can go over
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her publisher has mark publishing
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international they're the sponsor of our
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i encourage you to check them out they
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are an amazing organization they have
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some awesome writers they're the ones
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who introduce me to you
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maria so i'm thrilled and i thank them
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and i know that you have a youtube
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channel so we want to encourage people
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search for you on youtube just by
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putting your name in there into the
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search engine and your channel will show
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up what can they expect to find over on
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your youtube channel
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yeah we are just in a promotion video
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and a really great uh
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review from uh the woman who
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edited the book i'm really grateful for
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video and then i start two different
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formats on youtube one is one topic to
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it's it's uh every week uh i talked to
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another author about
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the book and it's only short four to
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and uh next week i will start uh to
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answer questions i'm i receive
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via email and every second day i take
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one email answer the question
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and uh that's it so if are interested
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it only takes you a few minutes to
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if you are interested you can send me
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your questions and i will answer this
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on this one that's really great i'm so
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glad you told us that because
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i want people now really i'm going to
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put the uh your channel back up i want
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people to go on over there and listen to
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um and send your questions in that's
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really great what you're doing that's
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that's awesome and i
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really like it also that you're doing
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them short and sweet you really are
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woman after my own heart
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you know i i think that a lot of us make
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of going like so long and and
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we just keep going and going and going
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and people are like going i'm done
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and so i really appreciate this i
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appreciate that you do them short and
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sweet and i'm going to be absolutely
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your youtube channel and all of our
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listeners whether you're here live or on
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on viewers on live or on replay if you
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have a question send it in to maria
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she might just answer it on youtube how
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cool would that be on a video that would
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any last-minute thoughts you'd like to
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share with our audience right now
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ah maybe don't uh uh
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be confused because i'm too short in
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answering uh questions you said you are
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i uh heard that only germans are
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i do i am very short i'm short and sweet
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if i'm bored i mean i figure everybody
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so i get that i get that but so i'm
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sorry i didn't mean to interrupt you so
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don't don't you want people not to
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doing short answers for yeah and uh
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so please if you feel misunderstood ask
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i'm i will i will give my best to give
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you can understand you will understand i
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think that's a great
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a great thing to say for anything if you
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ask again yeah if it doesn't make sense
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ask again i think that is that goes in
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line with everything in life
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if you don't understand something ask
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