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Karen glasser here and welcome to the
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super boomer lifestyle show I welcome
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guests from all across the globe to
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share how they are maneuvering through a
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world that worships youth and shames the
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beautiful process of Aging today we are
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welcoming singer-songwriter ellen aller
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to the show and the topic is music music
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today we have a really great show I'm
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excited about the show in particular
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because it's about music and it is one
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of my very very favorite topics and
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today we have an amazing guest her name
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is Ellen Ehlert she is an award-winning
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performer she's a music educator and
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composer and she is considered one of
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the most engaging performers on today's
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Jewish music scene with a very strong
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commitment to building community through
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music I love her ellen has been
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performing and teaching music to young
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children adults and families for over 40
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years her songs are considered to be the
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gold standard when it comes to engaging
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and empowering people to strengthen
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their Jewish identities she has been
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published by fellow singer songwriters
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on thirty-one recordings 31 oh my gosh
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and 11 song books and so without further
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ado we're going to welcome Ellen to the
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show so Ellen join us and say hello to
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hello everyone so glad to be here well
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I'm thrilled that you're here I'm
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thrilled because we have a common like a
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common thread out there in the music
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world as my community knows I'm a
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retired cantor and you are very well
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known in the Jewish music community
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specifically in the family and children
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but across the board and so when I saw
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it's stalking you on Instagram I said I
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gotta get Ellen on the show she's going
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and so I always like to start the show
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with the following comment and that is
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how do you describe a super boomer so
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the way I describe a super boomer is
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that we are not defined by our age we
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are defined by how we show up in life
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and we are fearless with a just watch me
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attitude that's how I define a super
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boomer Ellen Ellard how do you define a
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super boomer a super boomer is someone
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who continues to grow and evolve as a
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person both personally and
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someone who wants to continue making an
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impact in his or her area of expertise
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and who is absolutely doggedly
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determined to leave a remarkable legacy
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I love I love that definition it makes
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me kind of want to be your your kind of
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super boomer I mean I can feel the
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passion and I can actually feel the
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energy the energy behind it so if you're
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just tuning in guys we're talking to
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Ellen allert and today the topic is
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music music music I don't think you can
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say music enough I believe that music is
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the universal language how about you
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Ellen what do you think I couldn't agree
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I have known this language since I was a
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baby and really it's been a part of my
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life for as long as I can remember so
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it's it's how I communicate it one of
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the ways that I communicate I I'm off
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I've often said that music speaks to
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those that might not otherwise hear
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because they you don't have to get
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caught up necessarily in the word you
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can just get caught up in the music and
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the actual melody and that can speak to
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you so I think that anyone that works in
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the music industry as you do has has a
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very special gift because we're able to
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we're able to communicate to those that
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probably would not have heard what our
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message is so you call yourself the
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queen of Jewish early childhood music
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love that title and you're the queen I I
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think you know we should all be the
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queen how did that up hail to the Queen
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so I your self-proclaimed you get you
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gave yourself that title but obviously
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you gave yourself that title for a
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reason where does it come from I've been
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doing this for a really long time the
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evolution of it was gradual and it
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wasn't until a really a few years ago
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that I embraced how many years it took
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me to get here how much experience it
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took me to get here and the fact that I
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really am at the top of my field yeah
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and once I made that transition to
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really accepting that it felt empowering
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to say that I was the queen and what you
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do was a little unusual when people
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think of musicians they generally think
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of you know people maybe in doing a
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concert tour in big stages right or off
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the radio or Spotify or whatever and I'm
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sure we can actually find you on all of
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those things but you travel a lot right
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I do I do know I know I used to travel a
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lot and I swear I would never do that
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do you like to travel do you like doing
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this getting you know on a plane or a
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bus or a train or whatever to go to your
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next gig is that something is that the
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part you love or is that the part you
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put up with so that you can go do what
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you love I would say it's probably more
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that I put up with it it's a it's a part
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of the whole package I have to travel to
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get to the places where I'm going to be
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sharing my music my suitcase is still
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unpacked from my last trip which I just
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at home it was just a couple of days ago
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and I just came home to you know a
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million things to do and I just haven't
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unpacked and I'm probably gonna unpack
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and repack because I'm leaving again on
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Saturday okay or you're on tour right
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now this is my one of my busiest seasons
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yeah so okay so let's just bring
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everyone up to speed when you do a
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concert you might do a concert in a
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synagogue mm-hmm right you might where
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else might you do a concert religious
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school a JCC a public school a museum
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you name it anywhere where there are
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programs for young children that is the
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kind of place you'll find me and their
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parents not always but oftentimes their
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part of it as well and I would I would
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guess that you would consider your music
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to be what we call evergreen right
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because you sing you sing for the
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children of today and the children of
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today will take the music that they
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learned and listened to when they were
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children right to play it for their
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children which is a great industry to be
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in if you can be in an industry like
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this to have your music stay on forever
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and ever and ever so why did you do this
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I mean music has been in your life all
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this time you said you singing as a baby
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but what made you decide I'm gonna go
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and I'm gonna start singing in front of
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crowds I'm gonna start recording I'm
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gonna start creating music what was that
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impetus that that little voice went on
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in your head or maybe it was a big voice
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saying Ellen gotta go do this what was
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the impetus to really get going on this
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so I taught music in the public schools
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for four years I was the traditional
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kindergarten through sixth grade music
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teacher and I think that that's where I
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really honed my chops being in front of
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not an audience because when you have to
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teach eight classes back to back with a
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break for lunch and each class is
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different you learn how to manage an
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audience you learn how to manage a group
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of kids right so I did that and when I
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finish doing that it just coincided with
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at the time I moved to Philadelphia and
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I got my graduate degree in early
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childhood never thinking that I would
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ever do music again because I had had
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four years of a lot of music and I was
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ready for something new yeah however the
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minute that any school found out that I
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was a musician they embraced it and said
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well then you have to be our music
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teacher and so that was sort of the next
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step mm-hmm I couldn't avoid it no way
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and I was teaching music in a JCCC in
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West Hartford Connecticut and one of the
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parents who was a woodwind player said
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to me you know you're really good in
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front of people you should take this on
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the road and I said what are you talking
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about I'm a teacher this is what I do I
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teach music and he said no no no you're
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really good in front of crowds you
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should take this on the road so PS he
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actually I paid him and he consulted
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with me and helped me come up with a biz
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uh-huh I decided once we finished that
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training that I was going to sit down
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and I was gonna call every single
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library public library in the state of
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Connecticut until I had six of them that
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agreed to pay my price now this was back
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well yes the different time totally time
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I get I got six libraries to pay me and
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once that happened all that's rough I I
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continue to grow that and so it really
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started with this woodwind player who
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said you really need to take the wrong
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road so when I was introducing you I
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told ed outloud that you have been
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published by fellow singer songwriters
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on thirty-one recordings that's a that's
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a lot first of all congratulations that
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is a lot I'm having been in the industry
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I know that's a lot do you have any
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favorite songs do you have any favorite
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artists that you want to say out loud so
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that you know make everybody jealous
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that you that you like that has done
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your songs or or do you just love the
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versions that everybody does I love the
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versions that everybody does they all
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are unique they're all gifted and I'm so
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grateful and to be honest with you I
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have a feeling it's more than 31 because
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I wrote that a few years ago and every
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year people record my songs one or one
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or more of my songs so it's really a
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privilege to have people playing and
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recording and singing and sharing your
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totally I totally agree so let's talk
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about your why we talked about you've
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been doing this a long time I and and
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when you know one of the things that I
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like to do with my guess is I'll send
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you you know questionnaire as you know
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and I'll just kind of get some
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information and one of the things that
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you said about your why is that you're
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passionate I I love that word passionate
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because without passion I think we might
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as well just you know shut it down and
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so tell me about your why why do you do
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this and why you're going to continue to
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do this I love people I love people I
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want to say almost even more than the
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music people are really my my reason for
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living I love connecting with people you
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know when like my daughters who are now
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35 and 38 when they were young we would
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go out into the public
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and my kids would say to me mom do you
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have to talk to everybody and I would
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say as a matter of fact yes I do I think
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that that it really makes the world a
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better place when I can reach out and be
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kind to everyone so people are really my
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reason for doing this being kind to
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people reaching out embracing people
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telling them that they are enough just
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the way they are no matter what clothes
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they wear no matter what their station
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in life is no matter what car they drive
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I love people and I learned that very
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much from my parents so they would be
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very proud of you right now I think so I
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think they're up there saying you go
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Ellen you go well and you just keep
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singing I'm just putting this down okay
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yeah and and listening if the singing is
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sort of an extension of that I love
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music I love singing I love building
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community with people so the people and
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the music is kind of a great combination
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so let's talk a little bit about the
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type of songs that you do they're for
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children so are they all are they all in
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Hebrew or they summon are they in
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English are they sing alongs are they
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what what is what is the content what is
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the actual things that you approach in
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music that educate us all well they are
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they run the gamut when it comes to
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topics mm-hmm oftentimes if I find that
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there's a void in the world of
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children's music whether it's Jewish or
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secular right that's all I need and I
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will sit down and I'll write a song so
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that I can fill that void right one of
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my passions is writing songs about God
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as a musician for Jewish children and
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Jewish families I am really I guess you
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could say perplexed in a way because
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goddess is I mean the the the soul Creed
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the Creed of Judaism is the belief in
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one God right we might say you're single
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Shema and yet people often don't talk
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about God and I think for a big reason
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and that's that they really don't get it
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they don't get God what is God is that
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it is God what I grew up with was God
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was the man with the beard in the room
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wait a pie somewhere up there right and
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I knew that that just could not that
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didn't resonate with me and it certainly
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to resonate with my audiences so I began
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to write songs about God and I have
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enough now that I could actually do a
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whole recording there sprinkled through
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my recordings and some of them are not
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even recorded yeah but I I just have
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this passion about really helping people
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feel comfortable with the topic of and
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well now I didn't tell you I didn't ask
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you this before the show and I I'm not
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gonna put you on the spot but you want
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to hum a few bars you want to sing us a
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little stuff so so I have to like run
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through in my head all the difference
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about God that I know or favorite I'll
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tell you one of them is called God God
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God and I'll just sing you the course
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and what I teach people when they do it
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is they take their pointers and they
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point to their ears and we hear God see
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God smell God taste God touch God no God
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KN o W feel God what God everywhere God
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everyone God God God God very catchy now
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is this recorded so what we're gonna do
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in it we'll put some links into the
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comments after the show so for those who
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would you know you're raising kids your
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grazing Jewish kids and you need
14:36
something that is fun first of all we
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didn't have those kind of songs when we
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were growing up thank you very much not
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even not even kind of for that reason
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alone guys you know this is this is a
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great thing to hook into that is a
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really cute song I have never heard that
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we may have to like put a link to just
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to that song and commodified that oh
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that's great well but we will definitely
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do that alright I always like to ask my
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guests what is your superpower
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my superpower I think is that I have no
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filters when it comes to embracing
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people I love people like I said earlier
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I think that is my superpower is my you
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know that Hebrew said my kindness and my
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embracing of people and and you
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obviously do it very very well one of
15:28
the things that I always like to ask my
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guests and I asked you as well was one
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wanted to share and I love your answer
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why don't you share it with us was my
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answer when I talked about embracing
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your voice yeah and again your mistakes
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and bracing your mistakes right so and
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that kind of connects with embracing
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your voice because like if I had a
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nickel for every time somebody said to
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me oh I can't sing and I do that with
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embrace your mistakes and break they are
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your friends that when you embrace your
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that's how you grow so I totally rear
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that I just put a scroll at the bottom
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embrace your mistakes I think that's
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actually my super boomer moment of the
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interview I'm you know I I think that we
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all get caught up that we can't make
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mistakes and we have to be perfect and
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we have to do everything the way we have
16:17
to do it instead of as you say embrace
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the mistakes embrace life because
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ultimately when you do that you're
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showing up authentically and you and and
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that mistake is gonna make it even
16:28
better the next step forward right right
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and you also I think that people feel
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more comfortable when you can be
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vulnerable yes I agree I agree I think I
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think when people think that you're just
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like them they're more they're more
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they're gonna be more engaged with you
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for those of you are wondering how you
16:46
can check out Ellen Ellen is all over
16:48
social media guys I mean all over social
16:50
media so this is going to live in the
16:52
show but you can take notes as well if
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you want to check out Ellen on Twitter
16:57
she is at Ellen loves music yes she does
16:59
and if you want to check her out on
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Instagram it's at Ellen allard music so
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you're gonna notice there's a couple of
17:07
different names this is this is
17:08
different than the Twitter if you want
17:11
on her website where you can see her her
17:13
music and all sorts of other things I
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believe right you can check they can get
17:17
your songs there yes Ellen alert come
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and of course on Facebook you want to
17:22
check her out and join her page and
17:25
follow her there Ellen allard music and
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I know that you have an extensive
17:29
YouTube channel go check go just go
17:32
search for her on YouTube
17:33
Ellen a leader on Pinterest LnL order on
17:35
LinkedIn Ellen Eilert just remember that
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Ellen Allard on basically all of the
17:40
platforms put it into search and you're
17:42
going to find her there the other thing
17:45
I can tell you is that I
17:46
started a group about two years ago on a
17:48
whim and it has mushroomed I have almost
17:50
600 people in it it's a Facebook group
17:52
and it's called it's got a long name
17:54
it's called Ellen's music teachers rock
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Ellen's music teachers rock that's the
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whole name so if you search for that on
18:04
Facebook you'll find it and you have to
18:06
answer a couple questions and then I
18:07
open the door and let you in and it's an
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amazing community of people who love
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music the way I love music and want to
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really be a community and support other
18:16
people I love that so I just put the
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name up here so search for it on
18:19
Facebook as well oh my gosh where Jade
18:23
we're getting to we've we've done we've
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been talking for 20 minutes somebody
18:27
should tell us we've been talking a lot
18:30
is there anything else that you would
18:33
like to share with our audience that we
18:34
have not touched upon that you you just
18:37
know they need to have right this minute
18:39
I mean obviously they're gonna go check
18:40
you out and other things but I'd I want
18:42
I don't want to go anywhere without
18:43
making sure that we have touched upon
18:45
those things that are important to you
18:47
there are so many things I could talk
18:49
about I think I'll share a story with
18:51
you something that just happened a
18:52
couple of days I got an email from a
18:55
cantor in Philadelphia and in her email
18:57
she said that quite a few years ago she
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attended a conference where I sang one
19:02
of my songs called standing of the sea
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and it's about the Mucca Mucca story
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mm-hmm the Reds the Red Sea parting and
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her email she said that her son her
19:16
adult son or her son was a teenager that
19:20
was it and he referenced that song had
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not mentioned it since he was a little
19:26
kid like 15 18 years ago and he
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referenced it and she said the fact that
19:32
he remembered it and that he referenced
19:34
it told her that the Jewish upbringing
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she gave him made an impact and she
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thanked me and she asked me if she could
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donate she wanted to gift me with
19:46
something because of how important that
19:48
memory was for her and what it did for
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she and and her son Wow
19:53
blown away by that that's wonderful I
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mean as an educator I know that
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the highest compliment you can posit is
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yes I tell people sing with your kids
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sing with your grandkids and embrace
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your voice and embrace your mistakes and
20:07
know that those are the memories that
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you are right now that your kids and
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your grandkids are gonna remember
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they're not gonna remember you know the
20:17
more insignificant things they're gonna
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remember the memories that you make with
20:20
them including singing with them
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absolutely and I know that you mentioned
20:23
at the very beginning of the show that
20:25
some people say I don't know how to sing
20:26
you know and and I'm here to say and I'm
20:28
sure you'll gooo everybody can sing guys
20:30
some better than others okay better than
20:33
others but everybody can sing and shame
20:35
on any music teacher in an elementary
20:37
school because I know there were plenty
20:39
as when we were growing area that would
20:41
say don't sing right voices and what a
20:44
shame because those new individuals who
20:46
have moved into my husband and went
20:47
being one of them who now won't sing out
20:50
loud because he was told it's a nerd
20:53
don't do that to your kids all everyone
20:56
can sing oh yes we all know the syllabus
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are better than others but everyone can
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sing don't take away the joy of music
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right Alan absolutely not and I think I
21:04
would say one other thing and that's
21:05
that I'm 65 I just got my Medicare card
21:09
and I'm raring to go I am unstoppable so
21:14
for those of you who are wondering you
21:16
know am i all washed up when I get to my
21:17
mid-60s no way I am really I feel like
21:22
I'm at the height of my career and I am
21:25
exploding and I'm so grateful to
21:27
everybody who's bringing me into their
21:29
communities and I want to tell women
21:30
especially who are out there wondering
21:33
what they can do in their mid 60's go
21:34
get them is what I say you're a super
21:36
boomer I mean let's let's call it call
21:39
it for what it is you are super boomer
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this is what this whole show is about
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don't let anybody tell you what you can
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do it whatever age you are so
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congratulations on on walking your talk
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and being a prime example for so many
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women and then out there Ellen allard
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thank you for joining us on the show
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today I think I'm gonna drop you into
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the green room I'm gonna do my super
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boomer moment of the show and then we'll
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thank you for come on Ellen bye bye oh
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my gosh she'sshe's a blast I truly am
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enthralled by the music and boy that
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song was awesome I'm going to make sure
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I get the song we're gonna put it into
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the comments and we'll put it in the
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blog post but the one thing that I want
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to chat about right now in the super
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boomer moment and that is about
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embracing your mistakes I think so many
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times we as super boomers we as children
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we as middle-aged people we we as
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Millennials whatever age were at some at
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times we think we have to be perfect and
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sometimes we think that what we're doing
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we might as well not do unless we can do
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it whatever that perception of perfect I
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say fail your way to success
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embrace your mistakes Ellen you are
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right on the money on that I agree with
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you wholeheartedly because when you do
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that all sorts of things open up that
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you never thought were there all right I
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to spend your time with us today and so
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right now I'd like to make sure that you
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go out and give somebody an awesome day
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and we'll see you next week on the next
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episode of the super boomer lifestyle
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show goodbye everyone