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People Making a Difference
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Dec 7, 2022
We can learn a lot from historical figures who had challenges and were making a difference. Today we will share with you what they did, and what you can do to make your own legacy. #peoplemakingadifference #lifechallenges #mindingyourmentalhealth All interviews are for informational purposes only and are educational in nature. Any health advice discussed in this show/podcast is not intended to treat disease and should be discussed with your doctor prior to implementing. 📌 Subscribe to Caren's Channel: https://YouTube.com/cgmusc 📌 Subscribe to Rob's Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@officialrobglasser Watch all shows on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3VStXU3 Follow Caren on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/carenglasserlive Follow Caren on Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/carenglasser Don't forget to download a free copy of our eBook "Finding Your Passion": www.mindingyourmentalhealth.com
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girls I'm here with my co-host Rob
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Glasser and we talk about the topics
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that shape mental health today we talk
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about the importance of inclusion and
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share why we should be kind so whether
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you're here live or on replay we love
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you let us know where you're tuning in
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from in the comments below so today we
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are talking about people making a
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difference so Rob what do you have for
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us today all right well you know me this
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is my kind of conversation
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all right so making a difference in this
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particular case we are talking about
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those historical figures and others who
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made a big thing in life with
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difficulties
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um and the first point here is history
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had a lot of them now it's funny because
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I was actually watching a show just now
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about genius and the difference between
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what a genius and being smart is you
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have characters like Albert Einstein and
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Nikola Tesla you have people like
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Zuckerberg who apparently
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super smart and there you go but the
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difference being here is that what it
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means to be smart what it means to be
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genius or what it means to have these
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things while dealing with something else
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um our last comment is going to be how
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we do it and how you can so we're going
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to build up to that
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but history is full of so many
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characters like this you can go all the
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way back to Greek and Roman and you have
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people like Pythagoras who was actually
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put to death for knowing math why was he
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put to death because well people just
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thought he was nuts now this was played
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before a time when mental difficulties
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were a thing but if you look at the
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numbers and you look at the history
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around it more or less these guys could
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be considered being either on Spectrum
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having some sort of depressive issue or
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just having a mental health problem what
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does that mean for history well funny
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enough history is made up of more people
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who have a difficulty than not
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um sometimes it doesn't work out well
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for them but it might work out well for
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us yeah yeah
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um what do you I mean before we go into
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the list what do you know or what do you
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think I mean I you know when we we both
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obviously learned about this stuff
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before in school you had a different
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perspective than I did when I was in
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school right what do you remember
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growing up if anything
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how how a figure in history was supposed
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to be and did you even think that any of
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them might have had a problem really not
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I mean I think when we were when I was
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in school and I was learning about the
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presidents and Abraham Lincoln and we
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found out that his wife had some serious
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mental health challenges uh and so that
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was part of the history that we learned
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because I think it affected him as as
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the President of the United States but I
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think for the most part at least back in
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the you know Angel days when I was
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growing up this was not a topic of
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conversation you didn't just you know
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look at all the different figures out
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there and say oh well he's got something
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going on and he's it really didn't come
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up and I think I think this is a great
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actually a great time for us to be able
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to talk about this because it does exist
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out there
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and more more than we know
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right and good examples there are you
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you mentioned Lincoln who whether or not
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it had to do with his wife but also had
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incapacitating depression which led to
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occasional thoughts of suicide and you
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had uh Winston Churchill one of the
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greatest minds of of Earth who actually
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ended up having bipolar depression wow
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nothing you would have thought coming on
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because you look at these guys in
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history and again you know we don't know
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what they were outside you do read a lot
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of books how you know a church on
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Roosevelt were good friends they used to
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laugh they'd go they'd go drink and have
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you know smoke cigars but for the most
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part most of these characters were
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typical everyday human beings that you
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would have never known now what's funny
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is a lot of the books that were written
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about them they didn't find out about
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the software it's so way after these
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people have passed away so more likely
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than not especially somebody like
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Lincoln who was only the 16th president
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so we're talking
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1800s way back when nobody would have
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known about his depression until
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probably more recently than not as far
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as Churchill I know we knew he had a lot
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of health problems we knew we had a lot
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of stuff but again I would have never
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imagined a man like Whitson Churchill
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who was one of the brightest Minds in
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politics to have severe you know bipolar
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but your point is well taken just you
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know you can have the brightest mind in
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the world and also have mental health
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challenges and it's okay you know it's
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it's not either or right right exactly
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now one thing and I I laugh and not
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laugh to be rude but laugh why you'd
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ever want to be a writer or a playwright
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because it seems to be that authors just
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get the short end of the stick and I say
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this because we have everybody from
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people like Tennessee Williams one of
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the biggest playwrights ever I think
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what Streetcar Named Desire all those
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you have people like Virginia Woolf who
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multiple times tried to you know do
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things and then you have people like
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Hemingway who I I only laugh because of
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it you know he he was reclusive he you
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know he loved his cats that's actually
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why there's so many cats in Florida FYI
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because a lot of them were his well I
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know that's that he really didn't like
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people but yet he became and I guess for
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purposes still is one of the biggest
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authors out there everybody's right old
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man the sea everybody's red uh uh has
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the Bell Tolls uh uh Red Sun whatever
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it's called
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he you know he's he's a big deal
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everybody in school had to read him you
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know you may not like him but he's a big
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deal and there was a history of mental
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illness in his family that that
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continued on as you know
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um and that probably was a lot of this
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stuff too I know uh one of the big name
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Edgar Allan Poe who I think you know
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along with alcohol alcoholism also
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developed severe depression and and all
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that right again I believe it was also
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running in the family too and then you
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kind of think well like you know did it
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help his work you know obviously
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somebody like Poe who wrote a lot of of
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Macabre and a lot of basic original
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horror
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that's the kind of thing you think about
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when you have that so in a weird way and
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I think even people like you know King
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who I have back here he's admitted out
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loud that he has suffered from
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depression and he is a writer of
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Thriller and horror right they kind of
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take advantage of what they have and I
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think that's one of the biggest deals
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here is that you might not have thought
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about it you might think oh my God is he
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okay but then you kind of hear them talk
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about it and they go oh well I guess
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it's not that big of a deal for him or
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because
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you know they they kind of they make
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light of it or they use it for their
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their stuff now the biggest one and I
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know I do this a lot because Chris does
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a big art fan is Van Gogh now we all
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know that story here and I gotta say if
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you want a good story of what it means
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to have mental illness research Vincent
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van Gogh it's actually a very sad story
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it has a lot to do with losing I think
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the love of his life right being very
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you know reclusive whatever
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but to this day and even episodes of TV
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shows and movies we'll talk about it he
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is given such a big Spotlight on his
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work on his life and it kind of brings a
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tear because you realize the poor guy
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you know there's I think there's an up
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there's I think it's Doctor Who or he's
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brought into the present to hear what
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people have to say about him and he
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starts crying about what people think
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because he himself didn't think much of
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his work he just thought he was doing it
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for fun and he hears people talk about
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it and he's like oh my God this you know
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this is the impact so he's one of those
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guys that when I think of somebody with
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a disability I go right to him because
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there's nobody else that I can think of
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that really
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epitomizes what it means and you got to
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think because again he's also way way
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back when
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the the cure for most of this was
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basically go home and kind of separate
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yourself from the world and try not to
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do anything stupid and that was their
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idea because nobody really knew what
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right what it meant
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um so art and literature are a big thing
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however as I mentioned with Einstein at
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the beginning in Tesla we do have some
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scientists did you know that Isaac
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Newton had a depression
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now I will admit to you other than his
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you know gravity all that stuff I really
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read very little about him I read what I
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had to for school and that's about it so
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the reason why it's surprising is
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because I never looked up his life but
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again right think about what he was
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doing for the time right um who else do
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we have oh Beethoven who is actually on
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the episode we're watching bipolar
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disorder Not only was he I think he was
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also partially deaf as well but he was
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still able to play but he also had
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bipolar disorder
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it's it's pretty crazy I mean you know
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and I'll ask you this you know that I I
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didn't know that I play Beethoven and I
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did not know that I of course we we know
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about the hearing and the fact that he
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could
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um hear the he could feel the vibrations
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and yeah that I did not know he was
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biting so I'll ask you this from a
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musical background as you are what and
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again I know there's a lot of other
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musicians who had you know deal with
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this does this shock you at all does
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this you know is music something where
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people kind of have that I think the art
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I think the Arts in general in general
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well that um are not everyone obviously
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but there's a subsection of the Arts of
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the people who are artists who are
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musicians who suffer and they go into
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the field be and actually it's their way
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of of communicating in many respects
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it's kind of the The Cure All to help
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them feel good because it's their way
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now Michelangelo's on this list again
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you would never expect the man who came
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to the system Chapel you know to be here
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um Charles Dickens John Keats Vivian lay
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I guess from uh Gone with the wedding
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and then if you notice on here I know if
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you saw there's a PDF on here but we
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have people like Princess Diana and
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Paula Abdul who suffered from bulimia we
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have Janet Jackson and Axel Rose who had
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depression Eric Clapton
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um and these are people that I've heard
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you know that I know of because they're
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still around Charles Schultz the guy who
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created the peanuts right you know
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Snoopy like how could a guy who created
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such a cute character have you know
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depression
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um apparently Charles Darwin the guy the
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evolution guy he had panic disorders
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it's amazing the thing that these guys
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did their jobs
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well what do you think Rob do you think
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they did their jobs because of it do you
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think that they were brilliant because
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of these mental challenges that they had
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and that they were able to use those
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I mean I I'm always curious about that
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because this would be the one time I
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love to time travel and meet these
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people because I would love to see them
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in at work and see what they do you know
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you look at people like Einstein look at
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people like Nikola Tesla who you know
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partially agoraphobic partially
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depression but they invented science as
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we know it right you have these artists
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you have these musicians you have
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whatever that basically made their area
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of music as it was
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I think it's an open-ended question here
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I mean I think a lot of it as you said
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is you go into doing this in a way to
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relieve the pressure of the problem
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however you probably come out of it with
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something that not everybody could
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create I mean I don't think anybody can
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imitate Beethoven as it was
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because it's Beethoven you know same
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thing with you know with the Mozart
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Michelangelo nobody can copy the art of
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Michelangelo right because it was
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Michelangelo does that mean that they
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had to have it to do it no yeah that was
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going to be my question that was good
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actually the next question we're not
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saying that guys we're not saying in
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order to be a talented musician or
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artist or or author you have to have
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mental health challenges we're simply
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saying that many
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of those people have suffered
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and you know then you get into the
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presidents and you get into the
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politicians and a lot of those guys in
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the order to run the country or to run
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the world right you have to be able to
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stand up and do your thing and the fact
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that they could do it while dealing with
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their personal demons so to speak right
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it takes a lot of
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work you know whatever courage
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so whether or not it had to do with
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maybe a family thing whether it had to
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do with something that maybe they you
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know saw some trauma
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it's it's I I would I would reckon to
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say that most of History was created by
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people who weren't the norm as the norm
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is expected in my opinion
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um and you know we can go on there's a
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whole list of it but I think uh the next
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part here is you know how how do you
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make it your legacy how do you make a
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name how do you make a a life with it
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I mean if you don't mind I'll just go
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right in I mean this right here the the
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podcast thing is something took me a
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while to get here but it's something
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that makes me do my thing is it always
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perfect no is it always necessarily the
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greatest thing to do no you get some
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issues you have some whatever but you
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can open yourself up you can be yourself
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to an audience of people who Sparta my
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French but really don't give a damn they
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just want to listen to some really good
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talking instant information and you know
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there are plenty of people that I won't
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listen to I just you know I don't like
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them but they're super popular so it's
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just one of those things where you do
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your thing because you do it not for the
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expectation of having to or getting
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something it's really for you
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to or at least for me to be at peace
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with the difficulties that I face on a
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daily basis right and I I I actually
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agree with that and
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I'll take it one step further you know I
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I think that
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um for me when I do my shows and I've
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been doing shows for a very long time
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um I have made the effort actually to
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step up and be vulnerable and to talk
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about those challenges that I have not
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not being in your face but to talk about
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them in a way that people can go oh okay
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somebody that I know and respect or
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maybe not respect but somebody I know
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that and yes respect you have to like me
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just listen right but I that I follow
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she has it or she talks about it maybe I
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can talk about it too and I think that
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that's what this show is all about is
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that we are trying you know and
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originally we were talking about
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breaking the stigma but it's become so
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much more than that that this is really
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a way for people to
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um listen in and realize that they're
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not alone
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and that's our purpose here you're not
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alone we are here to support and I'll go
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even one more step further on that I
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noticed that even on the other shows we
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do whether it's off of this one or off
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of ultra Universe whatever everything
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comes back to creativity to the culture
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to being you you know I did a whole
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thing on puppets the other day and it's
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surprising how a media form that is
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usually scary to people changed the
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culture of Television for what it is and
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it wouldn't have happened had those
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people not stepped up to the plate and
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put something on TV that was kind of odd
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and out of the norm and it might not be
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as severe or as deep but it's the same
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thing it's the culture of why you do it
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and if you do it because you're having
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fun that's the most important thing if
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you get something out of it great that's
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even better but if you do it because
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you're enjoying it and because it's your
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Niche you know there's so many things
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you do people who sow people who paint
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people who sing like you you know like
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you do it's not necessarily a matter of
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doing it for a reason it's doing it
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because it's your enjoyment it's doing
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it because that's your thing you you
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know you're as I say you were born to do
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your thing
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do it you know do do it and I I do think
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that when that we the mass well we put
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the mask on when we get in front of the
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camera
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um and we put we become that the talk
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show host or the global Health Advocate
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or whatever that mask that we wear I
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think our challenge as talk show hosts
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is to try to remove that mask a little
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bit and let people see a little bit
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about us so that they feel better about
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them and and want to take that next step
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or maybe do what they want to do as you
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like to say you know right do that thing
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just go and do it great topic great
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topic
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um so you know I'm gonna go ahead and
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say go ahead and check out our our cool
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swag we should do that too yeah do that
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too we have some great journals um find
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your passion love yourself and the
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importance of now I actually have the uh
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importance of now right here and I use
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it
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I use it to put my notes in and all my
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stuff so it's really cool but there's
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t-shirts in there there are what else
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water bottles Rob water bottles hoodies
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uh we even have an apron for those who
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are chefs at heart you know you want
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something fun right it's holiday time so
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get that for you know if you have a a
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chef in your world and your family maybe
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your father your mother maybe the guy
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who does the barbecue
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an apron that would be great gift
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actually I think it would be a great
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gift there you go um we also want to
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make sure that if you haven't already
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picked up your free copy of finding your
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especially for those people that say I
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have no idea what I like to do I don't
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even know what I'm passionate about and
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that makes me sad actually when people
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say that because you know we want to
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know that what our purpose is here on
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Earth and that's one way that you can do
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it
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um I also want to bring up some of the
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um
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online resources that we have and that's
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the uh
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NIMH which is the natural National
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Institute of Mental Health it's the lead
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Federal Agency for research and mental
18:28
disorders it's an amazing site if you
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haven't been there you can go do a deep
18:32
dive and go down the rabbit hole we also
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have Nami which is a Grassroots
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organization this is the National
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Alliance on Mental Illness and it's the
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largest Grassroots Mental Health
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Organization and it's dedicated to
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building Better Lives for millions of
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Americans affected by mental illness go
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and check it out it's pretty cool and
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you know we've been talking about this
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for a while the 988 number
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um I'm starting to see it everywhere I'm
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starting to see people posting on social
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media that this is a great thing so for
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those of you who are watch our shows and
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we say something that might trigger you
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or we're not watching the show but you
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remember something 988 that is the the
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short code you dial 988 no matter where
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you are in this country and they they
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will route you to the right place so
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that you can talk and get some support
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if you're having any mental health
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challenges Rob any last minute thoughts
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I just gonna say the Cat decided to join
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us so she's sitting right in front of me
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please
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um but no I would just say you know I I
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read a lot of history I watch a lot of
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history and the more you learn the more
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you know that it takes a different kind
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of mind to yeah for all purposes change
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the world so pick your Niche pick your
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hobby and go and go see what happens I
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love that and just go
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just do it uh we have another great show
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for you on Thursday with altered
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Universe Live we are doing something
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with the number 10 in it and I can't
20:07
remember oh we're doing 10-minute
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organization tips or at least
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organization tips that should take you
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under 10 minutes under 10 minutes and of
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course we'll be back next week with
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another minding your mental health go
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out and give somebody an awesome day and
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we'll see you next time goodbye everyone
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