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we are telling stories and going on the
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job in Hollywood with my very special
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guest Bruce Ferber on today's super
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Boomer lifestyle show this is the show
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for super boomers and Beyond that will
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enhance your lifestyle health
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hello everyone karen Glasser here and i
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am so excited that you are here today we
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have quite the show my guests I've known
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for many many years and I'm just so
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excited that he is joining us today but
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Bruce Ferber Bruce Ferber is now take
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notes because he's quite quite the
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resume he's an Emmy and Golden Globe
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nominated comedy writer his credits
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include home improvement where he served
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as the executive producer and showrunner
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and that's actually where I think I met
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Bruce back in those days his work has
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also received People's Choice and Kids
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Choice Awards his first novel elevating
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Overman back in 2012 it caught the eye
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of actor Jason Alexander who is now
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attached to a potential TV series for
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that his second novel cascade falls in
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2015 won the forward indie book of the
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year gold price for humor and bronze
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prize for general fiction and he is
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joining us today to tell some stories
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and talk about his new book the way we
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work the job in Hollywood hello Bruce
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welcome to the show hi Karen nice to be
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here thank you so much for having me
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well I'm just so happy that you're here
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and we're gonna be telling stories today
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which is part of my one of my favorite
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favorite things to do but before we do
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that I like to start the show by
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describing a super boomer so I always
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like to ask everyone how do you describe
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a super boomer now personally I describe
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a super boomer by not be
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defined by their age by how they show up
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and that they're fearless Bruce how do
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you define a super boomer a superhero
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but not quite as powerful almost as
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powerful I guess I never thought about
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what it means to be a super boomer but
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what I would say that means is that you
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just you just keep working I mean you
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want to keep working you hit a certain
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age and especially as a creative person
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the the ideas don't stop coming so you
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want to figure out a way to scratch that
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itch satisfy that urge and in my case do
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the best work you're possibly capable of
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putting out there so it's just it means
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you know we're the kind of people who
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just want to keep moving forward right
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and and making whatever impact we can
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make and that's what you've done all
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your life I mean that is what you've
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done all your life and and so let's just
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talk a little bit about your journey
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from being a veteran writer on sitcoms
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and television and then moving over the
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transition over to becoming a writer
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writer author yeah that transition I
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mean that that there there are two parts
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to that story there's the parts of how
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it happened and then what the
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differences are between you know writing
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for TV and being an author and in my
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case what happened was you know it
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starts off with this a sad story I had a
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wife who was very ill and I had at
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certain point responsibilities and I
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decided to stop doing the television or
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pursuing it because I needed to take
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care of her and you know take care of
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business and then she passed away and a
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couple of years later I felt like well
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you know what I'm still a writer I still
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want to do something but I didn't want
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to do television they I mean I didn't
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want to do sitcoms and it wasn't because
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I didn't have a sense of humor anymore
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but that I'd been doing that for so long
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and another thing I guess about being a
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super boomer is that you don't
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stay doing the same thing your whole
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life amen yeah and and so at that point
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I really had the urge to try something
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different but I didn't know what so it
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was my therapist who said to me have you
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ever thought of writing a novel he said
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no I can't write it what are you talking
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and she said well you know you never
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know maybe you could do it and then so
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one day I had an idea for a character
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and I figured if I were gonna write a
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novel it would have to start with a
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character anyway so I wrote this
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character named IRA Oberman who was a
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middle-aged guy who was in a similar
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position to where I was that he wanted
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to do something different with his life
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except I had been successful and he had
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never done anything successful so but I
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wrote this character and I wrote three
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pages of it and it was the the story was
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that this guy didn't want the final act
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of his life to be like the last two acts
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of his life he wanted to do something
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that was important or it means something
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good because the rest of his life had
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been mediocre so he really wanted to
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change his life so I wrote three pages
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of this character and I really enjoyed
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writing this character and then and this
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is really unbelievable how this happened
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one day I go to my mailbox and I take
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out the Pennysaver and on the front page
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of the Pennysaver was an ad for
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life-changing LASIK surgery 299 dollars
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and I so in this book was about a guy
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who wanted it changed his life so the
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book became about a guy he goes he
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figures he doesn't really know how to
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how he's gonna change his whole life but
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he sees this ad and he says you know
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what I've been wearing glasses my whole
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life if I have this you know it's not a
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big life change but it's something so he
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goes to have this life-changing LASIK
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surgery and after that he not only sees
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better he sees the world differently and
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as a result he has more confidence and
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his whole world changes oh my gosh he's
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a super boomer he was a super boomer
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not only super boomer in the book uh one
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of the major storylines is that he's
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been such being a nerd and unsuccessful
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man his entire life that once he starts
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having an impact with other people his
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best friend thinks that he has turned
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into a super hero so oh my gosh well
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stay perfect this is actually I didn't
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know that story so that we perfect so
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you wrote the book Jason Alexander was
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interested he actually did the audio for
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it yeah and as we said earlier there's a
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potential TV series that that is in the
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work so you then moved on to your next
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book right and actually I think I
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interviewed you for that book when that
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came cascade both tell us a little bit
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about that cascade Falls was based on my
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many years going to visit my in-laws in
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Phoenix Arizona and they moved into one
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of these planned communities retirement
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communities with all of this water and
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fountains and things like this in a
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place that had no natural water and it
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was just the whole idea of creating what
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that whole lifestyle seemed to me was
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was that they were creating Florida in a
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place that was a desert and so they they
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put in palm trees and water and create
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what was supposed to be this idyllic
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community in what was then dairy farms
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that smelled awful you know at night and
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it just so III did this whole and then I
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learned that the guy who developed this
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community where my in-laws lived was
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kind of an egotistical guy and had a a
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biography written about him like a
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vanity biography about all his building
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and all so that became a big character
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so it's about this guy who has built
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cascade Falls which is the cheesiest
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building in the world and about his son
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who has to move there because he's
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having trouble working and he has to
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move from California to Cascade Falls it
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is a great book if you're just tuning in
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right now you're listening to Bruce
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Ferber as we're talking about his his
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history his journey coming up to the new
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book that he has just came out yesterday
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at lunch yesterday it's sold out I
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believe you were telling me and and and
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we're talk we're telling stories we're
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telling story so as we move forward into
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your your story you now came together to
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do this book called and I'm gonna put
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the book up because it is put this up
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hold on can't go backwards maybe not
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maybe we'll put it up from here I don't
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know we're gonna see we have a video
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camera that's one okay so we've got your
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book here I'm gonna put this on Lulu
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here's your new book it's called the way
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we work right yeah how did this happen
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where did this come from um a while back
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well the the genesis of this is that
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after working in television writing
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rooms for 20 years and sitting around
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with funny people all telling stories
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just the craziest stories about their
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Hollywood work experiences I thought to
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myself you know that would make a good
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documentary and I had this documentary
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it was called one Hollywood story where
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each person would get a chance to talk
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about one episode from their Hollywood
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career and I thought oh this is a great
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idea great idea and then I started to
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think about it and I realized that I
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would have wound up with like 90 minutes
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of talking heads and that a lot of the
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people wouldn't necessarily look like
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Bradley Cooper or Jennifer Lawrence they
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look kind of like me and I thought well
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okay maybe the way around that is to get
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like some clips from their work but then
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that costs a fortune you have to go to
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the studios and and pay you know for
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each clip for one clip it could cost
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more than to shoot the whole movie so I
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show that idea and then years later I
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was asked to write an essay for a book
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called Los Angeles in the 1970s and I
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wrote about coming to Hollywood and my
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first job and all this kind of stuff and
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it was a great experience and then I
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thought later on I thought wait a minute
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maybe that documentary is really a book
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maybe it's not necessarily one Hollywood
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story but it you know I get writers to
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write you know just on a subject matter
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having needed with Hollywood that
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interested them and get these really
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great essays from people I knew and the
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rest is history right well there was
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another part okay then I thought well
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why does it have to be just writers
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maybe I could do a book that sort of
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like the Studs Terkel book working where
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he interviewed people in every job in
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America you know I'll interview people
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who below the line people who are
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customers and script supervisors and you
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know hear their point of view because
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they don't usually get to talk about
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what they do and so I kind of went after
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that and and then the third component
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was researching stuff that had already
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been written about this that I thought
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would fit into this book and trying to
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get the rights to those pieces and and
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that's how it and that was the whole
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it's fascinating for guys this book is
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available in the super boomer lifestyle
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com go pick it up it's it's awesome
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I actually pre-ordered so I'm gonna get
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my copy I'm so excited about this I have
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some comments I'm gonna put them up
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right now the way we work what a great
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book full of lots and value Joey says
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Congrats on all of your success in
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Hollywood Bruce very impressive and he's
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a really nice guy too Joey on top of
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everything else so we got the whole
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package here you know one of the things
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that I find really fun is in you saw it
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was this camera this is for outdoor
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video you can literally invite the
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neighborhood and project a movie right
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on on the screen you maybe want to
12:51
project home improvement maybe get some
12:53
television you know television shows and
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project them pretty cool stuff
12:56
so okay so let's talk about the
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contributors you have as you said a ton
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of people that are involved with the
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books who are some of your well maybe I
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don't want to tell you your favorites
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are who or some of the ones that stick
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out you okay there's there's one I mean
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I only say that that this sticks out
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because it's a really unlikely story
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that came from somebody who isn't even a
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writer and you wrote this up as an
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say and this is a story in the book it's
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called the yeshiva gopher and and what
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it's about it's about um they made a
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movie a while back called the Frisco kid
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and what the movie was about it was
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about an Orthodox rabbi in the Old West
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and Gene Wilder was the star of the
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movie the great Gene Wilder and so one
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of the contributors in the book had this
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experience he was an assistant director
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and he was in the assistant director
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trainee program yeah and he was hired to
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do this movie the Frisco kid and when
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they shot and he was raised an Orthodox
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so when they when they started shooting
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the Frisco kid and they shot in the
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studio the interiors they had a rabbi on
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staff and they had all kinds of Jewish
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advisers too you know so they got things
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but they were on location shooting in
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Colorado okay and they had no religious
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advisors out there and then they found
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out that this guy who was a young DG a
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trainee had been brought up Orthodox in
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Brooklyn so one day Gene Wilder's in his
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trailer and he tells the assistant he
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tells somebody else he says I have this
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scene where I curse it
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I want to curse at the chickens and
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Yiddish and how do I do that and so they
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find out that this D G nutrient trainee
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herb was raised an Orthodox Jew so they
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drove this kid into the trailer with the
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star Gene Wilder he says and he says kid
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you know I I got to go out there I got a
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you know got a curse the chickens in
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Yiddish what do I say and so herb says
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well you know I don't know you dish I
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know Hebrew uh uh and I'm or I was
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raised north X but but I don't know that
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he said but my father in Brooklyn knows
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yet ish just call your father
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so they're in they're in the trailer and
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herb is standing extra gene Wilder and
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he calls his parents in Orthodox
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Brooklyn and his mother answers the
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phone he says hi uh violence's herb she
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says how come you never call and he is
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calling you now I work well you know you
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could call more you know that's correct
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and stuff yeah then so so she guilts him
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and finally he gets his father on the
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and because he's the one who he needs to
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talk to the father of course asked him
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why he doesn't call him more and this
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goes on and on and then he says dad I'm
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working on a movie and I'm here with the
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star Gene Wilder and the father says who
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excuse don't go and see wouldn't know
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who anybody is so but the funny part is
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that he's standing next to Gene Wilder
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herb is and he doesn't want to embarrass
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the star by learning the star no other
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father doesn't know who he is so he's in
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this really awkward position right so
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and the story is great it gets even
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better from there I don't know so don't
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give it away but will we find out how to
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how to do that in Yiddish in the book
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we'll find out what happened let's put
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it ok we'll find out what happened guys
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you heard it here first you need to go I
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I'm gonna have that's the first story
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that I'm going to open up for sure so so
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that's hysterical any other story stick
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out you know one of the things that you
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talk about is that there was this bug
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that some of the contributors refer to
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that and they do there seems to be a
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common denominator what is that bug well
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it's interesting that you say that
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there's another story that is written by
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a woman who later became an agent and
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she's somebody who went to NYU with me
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and her first job was when she was a
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student at NYU she got asked to work on
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the movie Mean Streets
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that Marty Scorsese was directing in New
17:04
York and they had some shoot you know I
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guess it was the last bit of shooting
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they had to do and they wanted that they
17:11
needed to do it cheap and they pulled
17:12
some students in who didn't know what
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they were doing but but they were
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excited to work on a movie and you know
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they figured it out as they went along
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and she got hired to be the script
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supervisor and it's all about that story
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is all about how when she worked with
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Marty this guy's command of cinema and
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his knowledge were what inspired her to
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that she had to be in this business so
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Wow Wow so it's the bug it's so that
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that was the bug a lot of people have
17:45
the bug but it comes from different
17:48
it seems to be a common denominator
17:49
that's something they get a bug up there
17:51
you know what and they have to really
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have and you really have to want to do
17:55
it badly because it's really hard to to
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be successful at it so what's your next
18:04
next what are you gonna do after this
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I got another novel yet are you already
18:10
working on it the first draft is about
18:13
done actually and so I'm I'm going
18:16
through it because you know in
18:17
publishing there's a long lead time
18:19
between when you hand in the book to
18:23
when it actually comes out so a lot of
18:25
time on your hands and you got to think
18:27
about what am I going to do now and so I
18:30
actually I wrote a couple of TV pilots
18:32
and finally I'd started on the novel and
18:35
so that's what I'm really into right now
18:38
the novel so the book launched yesterday
18:41
it's in the bookstore as people can go
18:42
right now to the super boomer lifestyle
18:44
and you can actually pick up the book
18:45
there I know you have a big launch party
18:47
on on Sunday I believe it's a Sunday
18:50
Sunday and then I have I have a book
18:54
event in Brentwood and in Los Angeles
18:57
Diezel books on the 21st and on the 27th
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I'm doing this really fun thing there's
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a theater called the Hayward Theatre on
19:06
your downtown and there's a group called
19:09
dynasty typewriter which took over the
19:11
Hayward theatre and they have tons of
19:13
comedy shows are fantastic and they
19:15
asked me if I would do a book event
19:18
during the day that day so I have 5
19:22
contributors from the book some of whom
19:24
are gonna read their pieces so I'm gonna
19:27
interview and then I have 2 guest stars
19:30
people that I worked with in other
19:32
capacities Jason Alexander is going to
19:35
stop by and Lisa Donovan who work with
19:38
me on Sabrina and one of the stars are
19:40
clueless is this open is this open to
19:42
the public or this why am i doing
19:44
typewriter is open to the public the
19:46
launch party is not so the first one
19:48
though if you give me out to get the
19:50
information from you after the show and
19:51
I'm gonna put it in the comments for
19:53
those of you who happen to be in the
19:54
area and you want to go meet Bruce in
19:56
person I bet you're gonna be signing
19:58
books so you're gonna be signing books
19:58
oh yes oh yes so you know go
20:02
by a book and then go get the book or
20:04
you can get right there right there and
20:07
sign it and get to know him for those of
20:11
you and I'm sure it's everyone watching
20:12
the show that want to find out more
20:14
about Bruce you can first go visit his
20:16
website at that's Bruce Ferber dotnet
20:18
there's no calm there dotnet make sure
20:20
you do the dotnet you can follow Bruce
20:23
on on Instagram I love your Instagram a
20:26
phurba Rama oh my god I could totally
20:29
love that and then also on Twitter
20:31
Bruce F so two different two different
20:35
things in there that's weird but hey
20:40
so Bruce F yeah there you go um any
20:43
last-minute thoughts you'd like to share
20:45
with our audience in terms of following
20:49
their passion becoming the super boomer
20:51
that they're meant to be and and not
20:53
letting anyone tell them that they can't
20:55
do something any thoughts yeah I mean
20:58
you just you have to kind of deliver you
21:01
got to deliver something I mean the
21:03
other day I got something you know it
21:07
was an Instagram private message from
21:09
somebody new in high school and I got an
21:13
who'd I talked to what do I do and you
21:15
know yeah who know who's out there who
21:17
go who I could pitch this to and I had a
21:19
step back and say listen nobody wants to
21:22
hear this from you and why why does
21:24
nobody want to hear it from you because
21:26
you haven't done the work yet and and so
21:30
when you're when you have an idea for a
21:33
somehow someway even if you're not a
21:35
writer you got to get that movie written
21:37
right because if you've never done this
21:40
why is anyone going to pay you for
21:43
something that you haven't proven that
21:45
you know how to execute so no matter
21:47
what you do on this path if it can be
21:50
small it can be big don't expect it to
21:54
be coming to you you know especially in
21:57
this world I mean in this world you see
22:00
people now who want to be in the movie
22:02
business they're making their own
22:03
YouTube's it you know they're really
22:05
going above and beyond to show their
22:08
talent and that's what it takes these
22:11
days you know just don't just because
22:16
I want to be in this path and I'm gonna
22:17
change you have to you have to put in
22:20
the work I so agree that is such great
22:23
great advice Bruce thank you I know how
22:26
busy you are you're on your you're now
22:28
on the book you know trail and you're
22:30
doing what you're doing and I really
22:31
want to thank you for coming on the show
22:34
again and for having a chance really to
22:37
catch up with you it's been quite a
22:38
while I want to thank you from the
22:40
bottom of my heart I'm gonna drop you
22:41
into the green room as I do my final
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little goodbyes to everyone and again
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thank you thank you thank you so it's
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now time for the super boomer lifestyle
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the super boomer moment and this is
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where I actually talk about something
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that struck a chord with me and actually
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it was the very last thing that Bruce
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said and that was to do the work you
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have to do the work you can't just think
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it's gonna come to you anybody that that
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tells you that you dream it and it's
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just going to show up that's not true
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you have to do the work whatever it is
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that even if you're passionate about it
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you have to do the work so so important
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great advice Bruce I want to thank
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everyone for joining us today because we
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know that you have a choice as to where
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you spend your time you chose to spend
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it with Bruce and I today and we are
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very happy that you did that so make
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sure you go out and give somebody an
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awesome day and we'll see you next time
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on the next episode of the super boomer
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lifestyle show goodbye everyone