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Jun 2, 2021
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hello everyone karen glasser here and welcome to uncourt life exposed in the most
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unexpected ways where what you see is not always what you get i'm joined by my
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amazing co-host mel greenberg for an enlightening conversation about the real ireland with rachel gaffney so mel
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how are you i'm great i'm so happy to be back and here on court and today rachel
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my long time through our boys actually playing
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football for a company that produces these games all over the world and that was many
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many years ago and then we actually that was not in person then we met in person in
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dallas and we've stayed connected all these years and it's really fun to have you on today rachel because on our show
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uncorked you were born in cork and we're gonna you know one thing
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rachel is irish and i think the world in general especially today we have so many
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preconceived notions about nationalities religions this that and the other thing and
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and there is that you say ireland you're you maybe go to beer you maybe go to this or that and there is so much more
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to this incredible beautiful rich vibrant country and rachel is all about that getting that
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out there so we are happy to uncork the real ireland with rachel gaffney and i'm so excited about that before we
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bring her in let's make sure that we do some housekeeping so whether you are watching this
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in the present right now or you're watching it on the replay years from now whenever it is make sure you put hi
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in the comments and tell us where you are watching from and without further ado let's welcome
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rachel to the show plus how are you hi
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welcome rachel and welcome to all of you out there watching this is rachel gaffney hi
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we're so excited that you're here we've been talking about this for several weeks um and we've got a lot of really cool
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things to talk about we have some beautiful images that you sent to us and we're going to be talking about a lot of different things
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so let's let's just jump in obviously mel said you're irish you're
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from ireland what was the impetus of you just jumping into all of this other than
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the fact that you're irish why did you decide to just make your entire business around ireland okay that's the
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one question that i can always answer very quickly so the united states in 1996
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uh moved to dallas to be precise from london with my husband uh had my first baby uh in london
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brought him over with me is three months old uh after two or three years here uh we were transferred maybe four years to
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chicago i now had two boys we were in chicago for two years and moved back to dallas in 2001.
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between 96 and 2001 during those times i was staying at home looking after the boys i
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was the corporate wife mother you know at the playground the play groups and it had nothing to do with socioeconomic or any
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kind of demographic other than that i noticed that people's perception of the island
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i grew up in the ireland i know the island that my family live in and my friends to live in
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was so far removed from it was there was a huge disconnect girls
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i mean what they thought was going on how we ate how we lived some might think it's funny but it
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really wasn't funny and i thought i need to change that narrative i want to change the story so
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i leave the negative space to other people we all know that even in this day and age there are plenty of people out there
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telling you what you're doing wrong how you look terrible how you do you know but there are so many people
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filling the positive space and i wanted to fill that positive space and bring all of these different layers
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a more elevated island to the american um persona to american household if you
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like and so that was the beginning of it in 2001 2002 and it starts started with a shortbread cookie and
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here i am today well well there you go there you go
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mm-hmm so you talk about wine you're talking about everything i listen i say to my husband
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i would talk to a cherish would talk back to my husband says you talk if nobody talked back to you
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so let's jump in with some little unexpected things so um with my business it's basically an
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irish lifestyle brand and hence the name rachel gaffney is real ireland um and i do it through different avenues
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food and drink cooking classes travel i have a big travel side of my business i arrange trips for people to
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ireland every year and but i spend a lot of time doing my own research when i say that i've been doing this for 20 years i
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would go to ireland on my own pair a car with no plan for two or three weeks and drive and drive
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and drive and stop and drive and take notes and document oh when i'm talking to karen you know i
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know where you need to go and what you need to know so i'm really a glorified storyteller so this is a good family friend but he's
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only passed away two months ago and i'm really sad but this is a book
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and if you can see this let's put you on hold on let me put you here oh yeah
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don't worry about me just do the book so it's called a kingdom of wine by dr ted murphy
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this was the best book ever written um in english for any language actually and
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was awarded the gourmand award um and it was the best book in the world for wine history for 2006
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and it's the story of the irish and the wine and i don't mean the irish drinking wine i mean the irish vineyards and the very
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very famous houses that are named after irish families and irish people that emigrated
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so before you continue i'm fascinated because i used to live in napa and when i think wine i think napa i
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think italy ireland is not the first thing that i go to when i think about wine
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and so we have to change that perception right right but it's not about um us growing
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wine or visit culture in ireland it's irishmen uh and women taking their
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skills in agriculture farming viticulture and moving and emigrating and settling down
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and starting these great famous brands that nobody associates with an irish person
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so i'm going to give you an example um and i even wrote the date down because i don't want to get the dates wrong but
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this is important to me to get the date right so richard hennessey was born in 1720 in cork
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which is where i'm from okay in a place called killavolin um he went to france and he worked and
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was an officer in dylan's regiment he fought at the bottle of the battle of fonterray and then in 17
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that's in 1745 then in 1765 he settled in cognac
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and he had he was married and he had a son and years later his son and he went into
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business together and um it is known i think it's the the largest brandy producer in the world so
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that's hennessy cognac brandy wow people don't realize you know so here you have richard
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kennedy who emigrated from ireland fought in in in wars and started in this in this
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business and so there are several there are hundreds actually of them in famous houses in uh bordeaux
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in um australia in chile and whatever so i'll give examples of names of some famous families in france so you have
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kerwin lynch galway as in g-a-l-w-e-y which is also another wine mccarthy
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hennessey mcmahon dylan lawton barton finland so there's all these
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drinks named after it i mean you have um in in california you have you heard of
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limerick lane yes i have okay so limerick lane um sellers you know it's in california and
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that's another irish family that emigrated and settled and started this vineyard so i'm talking about so what ted did was
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he did the research for 50 or 60 years and and he wrote this book which is the
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most comprehensive book you'll ever find it's it's a history book um and then he was awarded um his
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honorary doctors dr ted murphy from university college and they now have this course on
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viticulture and everything um but what's really important and this is for some other conversation and other
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things when i arrange travel to ireland for people i go very very
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deeply into um revealing these layers so for example cork is a very very historical city from the
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point of view that the port is famous for its export so it would have exported crystal core crystal to the white house
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under president washington oh wow yeah and so there you know there was a
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huge connection between the port of cork and bordeaux i'm going back hundreds of years so there are reasons why these happened um
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and there are so many stories like that so when somebody's going to ireland they might want to know where they're
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going maybe what kind of things they can do and experience and learn about or more importantly is when they are
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going and they don't know any of this it's up to me to pick up on the clues when they're talking to me
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because you guys look if i was to do your trip people do this all the time they drop clues they don't realize they're dropping breadcrumbs and i'm
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trying to pick up on i don't know it could be the way somebody's dressing or they're talking about how they eat where they live or
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they went to college or school there's things that i might find and go you know where you need to go
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you know something that might resonate with somebody and i think that's what makes your trip a much richer how has
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the past year and a half impacted and are you back up planning are you traveling are you
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taking people are you are people ready now to hit the road
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um they are ready to hit the road and there's a thing in the travel industry at the moment i just wrote about wrote about it last month actually i write for
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georgina campbell which is ireland's leading independent hospitality guide it's been around for a long time
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and i just wrote an article called revenge travel and it is actually called revenge travel
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where people are ready to as you say hit the road they want to go right the problem being and the messaging is a little confusing
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from europe so you have as us here in the us we know that people
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are going to florida they're going to wyoming they're going to their you know their second homes in the you know in tahoe or in colorado
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uh mexico's off the charts um greece turkey croatia places like that
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but europe of course people here europe is opening up and they think oh europe's open world
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yeah but europe and there are so many different countries within europe right you know ireland is in europe but
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it's not in the schengen zone and this is where it starts to get complicated each country in europe then has its own rules
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so the messaging is a little bit mixed now ireland literally just has started opening up in the last two
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weeks for their own people not forget internet of course i mean my own parents were locked up you know they had
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lockdown for months they couldn't go two and a half miles beyond their house they're now slowly introducing outdoor
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dining i mean i'm saying this about my own people i love it but outdoor dining in ireland are you kidding me
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um everything you've heard about our weather is true that's that's not but
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that has to be frustrating it has i can only imagine how frustrating and you like chomping at the bit because you
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want to you want to start back up again and you you want to start taking these trips
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i'm sure you're getting emails when you're getting calls and you're getting where when are you going when can we sign up
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right yes i am and i i'm doing things that are that are horrible that i have to do and tell them
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in my advice i'm actually saying to them and that's as of now this month you know this kind of we're into may june now i'm losing time
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of dates but i would tell them to hold on when i'm in ireland i'm not talking about italy or
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france i i like businesses rachel gaffney israeli ireland it's not racial graphene it's real europe
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and so i only specialize in ireland and i only watch what's happening in ireland i would love to send them over there but
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i'd rather not take their money so i cancelled everything obviously last year and this year i've officially
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canceled everything for the rest of the year wow wow it's really hurt but at the same
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time i think for a trip to ireland i'm not saying that somebody might not call me and say i need to see my aunt i want to
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go see my mother and i think i'll risk it in september october that's completely different right i'm talking about somebody
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you know multi-generations you know grandparents and you know planning around graduations and
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flights and you're upwards of 30 40 000 for a trip you don't need a quarter of an experience
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you shouldn't i don't want you paying full price for a quarter of the experience um because the pubs won't be open you
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know you have to wear masks you know museums aren't open um hairdressers are barely opened up yet
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you know got it we'll give people a taste though let's give people a taste of what they
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will be able to see once they are in and able
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to go to ireland so give me an idea what are we what are we looking at here
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this was when i was in dublin i went out to host spelled h-o-w-t-h
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you take the train from dublin and it was a 20 minutes and i'm talking about a commuter train and i just went out for the day just to
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be out by the water and you can walk overhead and i was just sitting in that's a working harbor where so you can see all the trawlers are
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coming in and the fish that comes in there is just incredible and this is in a beautiful suburb of dublin um you know
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it's a well-to-do suburb but it's a place that people don't go to enough they go to dublin but they just do the
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city whereas if you're staying in the city center hop on a train 20 minutes out there for the day and all of the restaurants and people
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don't know that right they don't know that and that's why this is so important what are we looking at here all right so
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now we are in the victorian part of the victorian wall gardens at kylemore abbey
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kalmurabi's in connemara which is the very west of ireland you know just north of galway and
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kaimurabi is run and operated by the benedictine nuns and
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these are part of their victorian wall gardens it's the number two visitor attraction in ireland next to guinness
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wow wow wow okay i love this i i love the water i love it looks it's a
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castle it looks like a castle tell us what is this this is one of my favorite places girls
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um i have as they say in ireland i have a graph this place that means i have a love brazilian word for love so i have a
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group for this place i have a blog for the women in here um their norms run this again
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and then you came to a girls boarding school wow um it is no
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longer boarding school it is now run and operated still run and operated by them and these women are the
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most incredible women they make all their own chocolates soaps uh have you heard of connemara ponies
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um they've got all gardens gothic cathedral you can hike you can you could spend an entire day there and you just won't have
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enough time wow right now they're building a monster oh this is
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uh seaweed foraging um i took all these people with me uh mostly from texas uh some one or two
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from new jersey people who live in the southern states wrapped up look um but we went on to this really wild
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part of the beach in sligo to forage for seaweed and i actually have this book here to show you
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and this is written by they don't see it they can't see that right now as soon as we come back off these people
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so the doctor that wrote the books called an irish seaweed kitchen so everybody got a copy of the book before they went over
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and we had to go foraging on the beach the seaweed but in those hampers are all of the salads and we had a
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gazebo in the rocks and everything they asia drank was made from seaweed and they were shocked and surprised and
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then they had connemaras meat smoke uh peep smoked whiskey oh my gosh
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is a doctor she's a medical doctor she's one of the world's leading authority on
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scene and what it does for your system and how good it is for you at fighting cancer and
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how many vitamins you get and um in ireland they cook with seaweed a lot and we have a long history of seaweed long
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before everybody knows about nori and you know um going out for sushi and the japanese but
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i mean our grandmothers and great-grandmothers and generations before were using seaweed in actual fact
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the chefs in ireland have gone back to using all sorts of seaweeds to make stocks for their soups
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and dishes wow wow so this is this probably goes with the other shop
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that you had with the nope actually we're into the country this is a nav down my neck of the woods
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where i'm from in cork this is west cork wow um where i think one of our family members i was on holidays just
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with my cousin or something and i was just out in the garden and i just took the picture outside it's a cork it's a big sailing place as
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well whoa this is gorgeous i was staying in baltimore in west cork
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and i took a ferry across to this little island as you can see that's the only thing on the little island and i walked and went
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to the beaches but these are the little unexpected pleasures that if you are constantly in a hurry you
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miss out these little delights that's why they need you what was one of the salads we had on the
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beach the seaweed do you see that that's actually made with carrot and you know shells
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shaped carrots but then all sorts of wonderful things in there with different types of seaweeds and dressings and in
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the background of that picture that's a nori pesto that's not pesto from from
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basil or from basil that's actually seaweed pesto wow and it's so delicious
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we cooked from this book so it's called the irish seaweed kitchen
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and as i said she is an md and i'm just going to show you um and she lectures all over the world you
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know if people want a link i'll share it you could say but like for example here you've got some of these look at these beautiful
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recipes oh wow so carrageenan moss is a type of seaweed and it's used to make um
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different types of puddings for its gelatinous qualities um seaweed is used on the skin and we do
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an awful lot of products in ireland made with seaweed and a lot of natural beauty products you know that's
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a very very big scene in ireland our beauty products skincare do you offer a lot of these products through
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your website so that people can become acquainted or whether shopping or after they're there
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they can continue to use what they've come to fall in love with yes um
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what i do is i find things when i'm over there or things that i come across and i call them rachel's favorite irish finds
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and i don't speech or something because somebody says here you will you you promote this for
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me we'll pay you or you know you can be a what do they call it an influencer i don't do any of that because then
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they're not my fines there's somebody else's mind exactly well um this was a woman that i met
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from county carlo her name was joe brown and i loved her story and basically she started off as an
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aromatherapist and made these kind of stick perfumes for traveling because she could never find them so her
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brand grew but everything she does is made with out of bam like the packaging is all bamboo
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so this is one of her products and i have one here which is my own it's nearly gone but i'm going to show
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it to you so this is her um facial cleansing balm okay i don't know i can see it oh the lids on
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it that's why so this is her facial cleansing balm and it's just a you can see like this and
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you can rub it in your hands just to have it as a you know you can moisturize with it
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and it smells incredible and it's so clean even people with eczema can use this product that's how safe they are
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we're going to give them a way to purchase this and a way to to look at some of these products we're going to put a link in the comments so
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make sure you take a look at that it'll also be and we'll talk about that in a second we have a kit that we put together for
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the show you'll be able to look at those products as well i know you have a shampoo yes
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oh my gosh yeah love these shampoo soaps sister genevieve makes these and
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she is that one of the nuns in kylemore they're building a monastery at the moment well they're trying to build a monastery
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and i know that my bars of soap we're not going to build it single-handedly but it will definitely contribute so
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they make them from everything from the garden so this one is shampoo soap with seaweed extract and this is rosemary
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and you literally take the bar with you and wash your hair but they're better for you than liquid soaps those
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are a big no-no there's a whole story behind that too so i'm selling i'm doing those because the money then goes back to them
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so that's wonderful along the way that's wonderful we'll put a link we'll put a link into the comments as well as i know
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they can go right over to your website because you have all those things listed over there
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as well you know looking at the pictures and looking at the products you're showing us clearly i had some
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preconceived notions as to what ireland was i mean i think of you know the luck of the irish i think of four leaf clovers
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that that is about the extent of what i know about ireland this is i i think this is so important
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for our viewers to know that there there is something out there that they can go visit they probably
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never would have thought about right i mean this is just what would you have thought of uh surfing i mean
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sligo on the west coast of ireland hosts some of the best surfing championships in the world because of their beaches
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and our food is in my opinion ireland is the greatest chef's pantry in the world
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and our ingredients are probably they're up there just italy france and
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and ireland our ingredients are world-class and it's not what you think it is so and i love what we said earlier about
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you kind of said i don't know whatever they're called influencers you actually you're a tremendous influencer rachel
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because you are teaching and showing and peeling back the layers of of preconceived notions
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and and we have too many of those in our world whether it's with again you know societal or aging
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everything and you're showing and and it's more dear to your heart because it's your home
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and what you're showing the products you know i'm i think of ireland i come from a family of golfers and it's
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golf and whiskey and there's and it's a beautiful country and there's so much more there and well there's nothing wrong with that
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you know with as you said that there's the golf and the whiskey yeah there's those sides of it there are other sides of it too and i
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do cover all of that but yeah when i'm on instagram or something i
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just want to introduce you to more unexpected people places and products and my way of shouting out for the
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people who are doing great work and um not because somebody's paying me to do it but i'm just doing it my
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husband jokes and says you love working for free i think we are not working for free we
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but we all agree so so what what kind of food what kind of okay give us some examples
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all right so first of all when you go to ireland you've got to order fish off the charts the fish is the best
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irish people are not the greatest at eating fish even though we're surrounded by it but they're getting better but we love
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fish and all of our cattle and i mean i love lamb in ireland
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i will not eat now i'm going to come back here because it's so good salmon in ireland is i know just fish
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but salmon is incredible and i like to go fly fishing i know you probably don't think that about me but i love fly fishing
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which is another thing i like to take women with me actually on culinary tours to go fly fish and catch the fish and
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then eat it and then oh i love that i love it another thing too is um baked goods but what we're
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really good at um tons and tons of orchards and you know blackberries roses side of the road
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foraging is a very big part of my life i'm talking about wild garlic mushrooms rowan trees
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elder flowers making elderflower drinks and wines and you know all of these things our portions are
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smaller and our food is cleaner um and i mean by clean is you know salad isn't laden with some heavy dressing
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right you know our foods are uh small portions um our breads are incredible um if we
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could agree with the ingredients i'm getting hungry right now we need to
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have we we need to do a live here's how when travel opens back up we
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need to go with you and experience this ourselves and have the camera there and and and be their life and really
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that'd be so fun i could i'd love to see the two of you trying to forage for seaweed
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i would love to see that too so would my husband i don't think he would believe that
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the other the other thing too um oysters um i've taken people with me um so the the oysters on the east coast
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of ireland are different the oysters on the west coast and um i took them to carlingford which
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is on the east coast it's north of dublin and we went to carlingford oysters and they had to go out in their welly
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boots and they literally had to walk out with the guys and learn how to you know harvest the oysters but they
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learn why they taste different and why they taste so good and so pure and it's because of the
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waters that come down off the mountains across the different limestone rocks across the different types of heathers
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and wildflowers and then by the time they come into the lock and they're filtered you know how oysters are they filter you're you're absorbing all
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of these flavors from what the wharton carried and then if you go across to galway they have their own
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oysters in fact galway has one of the biggest oyster festivals every year it's great fun um and their oysters
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are delicious but taste different and it's different types of waters and vegetation you know and and mussels
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i love mussels in ireland they're just scrumptious
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i love oysters i love oysters so i'm really really hungry you you are a monthly columnist for the georgina uh campbell's ireland
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guide uh ireland's leading independent food and we're going to put a link to that there what kind of things can people expect to
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read about on you in your monthly column oh i write a letter i write a column it's called rachel gaffney's letter from
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texas and basically my musings and stuff so last month was revenge travel and what i
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thought was happening um i wrote one time about the food truck scene in austin years ago sort of letting
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people over there know things and things that i see that are happening or places i've been
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you know that that that uh in ireland that i'm talking about or experiences because i've done a
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lot of uh podcasts and interviews with people over the last year during the pandemic
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i've traveled to an awful lot of castles around ireland virtually this year to keep myself
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informed so i have this i have a lot of quivers um a lot of arrows sorry in my quiver um
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right now so i've gotta i just want to keep myself up to date constantly with what's happening over there because
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right country house and the exclusive rentals are really a great way to go when you're over there you can split it between a couple of
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families you know um and i do use castles as well i love that i love that you know mel and i were
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talking before a couple of days ago about um travel just in general and how
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how life has changed and as things are starting to open up
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where are we gonna go first or second or third i know that mel had a trip planned originally and it's now
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been postponed to a later date she was going to go back to sicily right in italy um yeah you know uh to eat
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to eat her way through i think you were going to cook and drink you know me personally in terms of
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travel i i love to cruise so so i can't wait to get on a cruise ship and i'm hoping there's
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some way to go to ireland and maybe get there and then go see i'm not a big flyer but
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i i would love to come visit come visit and come with you and go see
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it so you're hearing it first here guys i might actually get on an airplane i don't know i will get you
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there okay we'll make a cruise ship into ireland and you can get off there okay you can
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do that but also it's again i want to make it clear that i don't want to deter or stop people from going to ireland this year it's
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just that i just don't feel it's quite ready so i would love if people would start
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planning for the spring in the summer of 20 to 22 for a really great experience
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we're planning for europe i'm we're traveling locally and within the continental united states
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and i was in mexico last weekend and i felt safe and where did you go
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um punta mita north of puerto vallarta it was it was incredible and the people there are excited and
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welcoming to have you know visitors again and life and it was busy and
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vibrant and you know for all of us it feels good well we're freaking out we're breaking
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out of our our cocoon of being in our i mean i've been in my house as we all have uh i literally did not leave my house
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for almost a year and a half um and that's because i have a husband who has immune issues and things and i just
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were too scared to go out and now that we are vaccinated every time i go out i literally
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like oh my goodness there are people here you know there's like lots of people here so i can't wait i personally cannot wait
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i heard the news yesterday that the sales and lipstick are going through the roof
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yeah that was the first account of me and we actually wear pants now we have to actually wear pants
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please don't give me that i don't want to hear that you know um i want to make sure that
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people know how to get in touch with you um you have a great presence on instagram and they can find you there by
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going to rachel g uh rachel gaffney you also have a presence on youtube
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and so all they have to do is search for you rachel a gaffney and they can go see the videos that you've created that's lots of fun
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and they can also go as i said where sorry where is it coming up rachel a gaffney
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i hey i copied and pasted my friend that's what you mean so that actually is goes to your
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your your page because i went and looked so it doesn't see you learn something every day um so
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you want to check that at it at as well um any any last thoughts that you want to share with us
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about this whole you know real ireland that we need to know i think it's it's just what we're
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talking about um it's kind of
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disconcerting because the voice is coming back at me there we go um very much the um the unexpected and
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everything you think you know you don't really give it a try and i don't want you to go there because your
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granny's from ireland or you need to see before you die i mean if you want to go there for those reasons ireland irish people will be thrilled to
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welcome you but i want you to go especially if you love adventure in the outdoors you know my god there's so much to do i
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mean i love going paddle boarding and kayaking and cliff diving and all that sort of stuff and so there's plenty of
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all that um and it's just it's just well worth the visit so um if you want to go just let me know
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i think it's great i think as we come out of our cocoon as i said it's really exciting to hear about things like this
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that i never would have thought about i i honestly never would have thought about this and i will tell you this i'll leave you
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with this when americans do go over to ireland irish people are going to be i mean they're not going to be opening
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their arms they're going to be hanging out almost pulling you off the plane because you know ireland in america you
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know our connections are so tight um they miss i know we miss each other very much
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i can imagine mel any last-minute thoughts i just want to thank you for for coming
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on today and for your time and for sharing and exposing and you know to all the
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pleasures and the unexpected pleasures of ireland and i hope everyone checks out rachel's website and
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we're all ready to start traveling when we can and we're going to come your way thank you so much ladies
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