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hello everyone Karen Glasser here and welcome to Karen Glasser live make sure you say hi in the comments and tell us
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where you are watching from today we are talking with Performing Artist recording artist producer and composer Michael
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Fitzpatrick he is at the Forefront of using music as a vehicle for increasing peace and compassion around the world so
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without further Ado welcome to the
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thank you you're welcome for those of you who are tuning in you just had a special treat here this was U Michael
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Fitz Patrick doing what he does best and that is make beautiful music
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and bringing peace to the world and you're tuning the planet right you're tuning the planet when you say that what
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does that mean well it means a couple things um
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the Once Upon a Time coming up on 30 years ago uh I founded a nonprofit
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called Millennia music and it was right in that premillennium fervor but I
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didn't like Millennium because it was getting overused so I thought Millennia that was kind of nice um and I
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understood enough I hadn't come to Hollywood yet but I understood enough that you needed a tagline right I thought well what is what are what is a
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tagline that can summarize the mission of what Millennia music is intent on
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doing which was providing healing music to people in need I mean right Baseline yeah um the expansion of that mission
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statement was and presenting concerts and and media for the global audience
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right so I came this it just came to me that
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if you go to places in nature in particular um that you have an affinity for and you
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actually sit and and play right then you get in tune and if if you if you can get
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in tune enough sometimes you get the sense that the animals the the winds the trees are are
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listening if you will so tuning the planet originally came from that Genesis
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but then when I ended up taking a group of Tibetan Monks and trais monks and
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musicians deep into the heart of the largest cave in the world after having spent six days with the doy Lama in a
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remote Monastery in the middle of nowhere um the tuning the planet
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um moniker became much more specific in
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that we were intend going in there to to tune in and and to tune back wow yeah
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wow so you didn't know it at the time you created that tagline but Perfect Right totally it was
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absolutely now I I you were name dropping you said the dolly llama so let's talk a little bit
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about what you've done on this career of yours this journey of yours we go way back Michael and I go way back um like
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way back and uh when I met Michael playing the cello he actually played at my synagogue for high holy days um which
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for one of the most holiest days of the year K nidre Edom Kor and I've always
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appreciated Michael's Music and um fast forward as he was doing all these things with all these amazing
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people which of course you are one of them Michael you are an amazing person let's talk about the journey I mean you
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played with the doly Llama you played with the Pope so tell us about some of those
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things um there was a
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long 40 page article in in the um Harpers many years ago ago but the
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opening line was geography is Destiny oh which is a great one I come from
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Kentucky originally which is the blueg grass and it's a bunch of things but we had a famous Governor named happy
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Chandler who said I never met a kuckian who wasn't on their way
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home and I was in the process of coming out to Hollywood I had a whole
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slew of things in mind about doing something more Progressive than what I
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had been trained to do and um my generation is is the last
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generation that will have ever grown up listening to rock and roll by being trained classically it'll never happen
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again right right so some hybrid in in our musical DNA and so I was trying to crack the coat on it and I'm trying to
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get to Hollywood and my late grandmother Rose who was an incredible pianist we were watching the Lakers game one night
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because she loved the Lakers and she says at at halftime she just turns to me and she says you ought to go to
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Hollywood I said what did you have in mind says I think you ought to go out
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there and be a conductor I said Rose I don't know how to conduct she said neither do
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they gotta love Gotta Love grandmothers oh my gosh so I had this in my mind but
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the plan didn't quite work out the way I thought it was going to so I I I ended up coming back to Kentucky after my New
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York studies and now I'm trying to figure out wait a second where how am I
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going to go forward and I got invited to spend I learned through friends that the
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Daly Lama was coming to spend six days at this remote Monastery in Kentucky for this what turned out to be an historic
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Summit of eastern and western monks and nuns who were coming together to try and
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find a not only common ground but a a a
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a common compassion if you will right the timing just worked out wow so
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I get invited I thought it was going to be and I've done far too many of these we've all those of us in the music
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business we've done too many background music performances thought that's what it was GNA be and by the time they gave
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me my my um my set list if you will for the six days days they pluged me into
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nine different performances over the six days like in in the heart of the whole thing wow
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so you know one of the questions was how do you prepare for something like this it's not Carnegie Hall it's not the
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Hollywood Bowl these are monks and nuns and you kind of had the
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sense that they had your number right you know what I mean like you could you
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couldn't you had to be couldn't fake it had yeah yeah okay so
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I did what I could in terms of um I I thought the most important
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thing was to get my mind really calm and um I I grew up as a child in nature so I
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spent a lot of time in nature in the in the in the months leading up to it and I spent a lot of time just sitting at the
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cello just playing really slow stuff um and then when I got there this is
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1996 so the llama's Fame is is not where
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it ended up in in the 2000s right right Hollywood hadn't caught up to him and
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um so I had no idea what to expect from him
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right and but when he came into the room uh the rest of the monks and nuns were
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assembled and he came in last and when he came into the room it was presence
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right and it was a presence unlike anything I'd ever felt before it was not a a bubbly I mean he was it was a it it
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was it was deep um and then I played into that space for six days and ended up sitting literally right next to him
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for the final closing tribute and you know it it was totally surreal um and I figured okay that's it
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I've done my thing I had a Broadway tour I was going to go out on and then his people and the vatic people who were
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were co-producing the summit said we think the the music is so
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powerful that it can carry it can transmit this compassionate Consciousness which got forged during
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those six days okay so I thought wait a second I think they're I think I've just
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been commissioned to produce the world premier CD of the dolly Lama this is crazy yeah right
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and where would you do something like that I thought well you can't do it in a studio in New York City um where would
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you and then this image flashed in my mind of Mammoth Cave which is in
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Kentucky it's the largest cave system in the world I thought well that would be incredible the Acoustics would be great
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the visuals would be great be very cinematic and um couldn't be that big of
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a deal to get the cave I thought so I pitched it they said let's
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do it and thus began what turned into a caper of impossibilities on how
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we actually pulled the thing off really it ended up taking three years to to to
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make it happen when it was supposed to be nine months and I learned all kinds of things about how you write a letter
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to the private office of his Holiness the Dal Lama in daram Salah India how you write a letter to the offices of the
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Vatican you know fortunately I had good guidance on all of it
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but from that um once this the album came out it
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was called compassion all these doors started opening Hollywood doors Washington DC
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doors um and over the years it led me to playing for the pope
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at the Vatican what was that like Michael well it was as John and said it's all show
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is you know you get there you get to the venue this is the next G the venue the
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uh yeah right and it's quite a venue and you know you're mindful of the
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magnitude of of the office right of the institution of the um of the role that
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the pope plays I didn't again have any experience right with him but I had at
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that point uh let me do the
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math uh 16 years of being around the world with the Daly Lama so I had an
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understanding of what protocols were like and what it was like when you when you encounter uh a being like the do Lama or
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the pope right um obviously it's it's a bigger um machine the Vatican is is a
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you know massive machine the um the venue we were in the new it's called the
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Salen nerve Paul 6 audience Hall it's it's a 6,000 seat Auditorium oh is that
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all okay right but there were only 200 VIPs in attendance including then Vice
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President Biden who gave you know his keynote okay so you probably could cram
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like novels of these kind of these kind of stories I want to throw some pictures up and why don't you tell us what we're
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looking at here yeah so this is from the his Holiness the doy Lama yes so this is
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in Louisville Kentucky it's in uh 2013 and that that stunning backdrop
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that you see is real it's it's a it's a section of this gigantic wow I don't
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know 120 foot Buddha tapestry that that they had hung behind them that was really quite stunning and the the the um
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the key element of this one that that is unique is you see me playing my electric
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cello yes this is the first time that the doy Lama has heard or seen me
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playing the electric cello so for those of people who are listening electric cello is not what you think about when
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you see a cello you know it it is it looks like exactly that it doesn't really have a bottom it's the coolest
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thing ever it's the coolest thing ever yeah it is yeah and it after all the
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years of of being immersed in the in the sounds of the Tibetan chant uh the
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electric cello is particularly um effective at at Conjuring these deep
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deep low base tones so um every one of the Daly Lama um events
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has like a riddle to it or there it's like a puzzle that you have to solve it
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what happens is it's like a like a like the Super Bowl everybody gets ratcheted
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up right right and then there are people that that are there are handlers there
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are important people there are donors and everybody wants a piece of it
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right okay and so part of the the
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it comes with the territory is is knowing how to navigate right that
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aspect of it so that you can get on the stage to do the thing right right
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exactly Michael Michael I qu so you there's this beautiful quote here the emotion induced by Michael Fitzpatrick's
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music is so powerful it seems almost verbalized first of all how um
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humbling to have someone as the DOI llama say these words about you
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how did that feel well so that quote came from an earlier episode I should
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have sent you this one when through right place right time I was
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able to bring the Dal Lama and Muhammad Ali together right okay Muhammad had
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said that his greatest hero in life was the Dal Lama and before he died he wanted to meet him and it just you know
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it just worked out so that was ridiculous because it was the three of
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us were sitting right next to each other I had to play into that space wow and I
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mean Ali's energy is you know it's really powerful right
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and uh so I I just went for it and that's what the Dal Lama said you know
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into the microphone after I'd finished which was really interesting to hear it
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coming you know in real time from him rather than you know you write to the publisher and you get the quote from the
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author kind of thing wow wow wow wow I want to share another picture um and
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this is from The New York Times Rebel marching to his own Tunes a sense of humor virtue virtue I can read
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virtuosity and an ear for musical dialogue this is a beautiful picture of you um was this an article that was
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written about you I was in included in the article that came out in in
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199 2 no excuse me 1993 and again it was one of these
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strange moments in life where you're at the coffee shop it's Sunday morning you've got the Sunday Times you're
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flipping through it you're done reading it you put it down and then you hear your inner voice say pick up the Arts
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and Leisure page and finish the article that you started oh my the article
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was about crossover string quartets okay
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kind of like Kronos quartet but it was talking about these other ones and um
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and so I pick up the article and I start I go to the page
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three um and I'm reading along and I'm reading along and then then it it says
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but but string quartets aren't the only ones with a yen to
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uh compose and improvise Mobius which was My Piano Trio at the time a trio
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blah blah blah blah blah and that's where the quote was it was just sitting there wow okay so you know you reach in
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with tongs and you extract it because it's impossible to get a New York Times
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quote that's good yes you know if you do your Carnegie Hall debut and you hope
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that the critic likes it and you hope you get something that's that's a rave and
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the guy the the writer Alan Coen had bought our CD at a concert we did in
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Charleston South Carolina at the spaletto festival I mean I had to figure out how did he know right right
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so as the journey was was going on like when that when I got that New York Times
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quote that was huge for me in my in my development as a Performing Artist I can
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imagine yeah you know 30 years old and and and that was a big deal right um but
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then it's what's great about it is when you get something like that once
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you get it you can check the box right you don't have to you don't have to
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focus on it anymore that's quite the Box though that you checked I mean that that is pretty
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amazing uh the next picture I'm bringing up is United Nations International Day of piece when was this that was in Time
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Square um the year before last so
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2021 2021 yeah so sir Ringo Star right
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cartney they were they came in live via satellite you know there were screens in
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Time Square and then the piece that I have played that was really the the piece
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that I played as the keynote for all the events with the Dal Lama is titled invocation of the earth which is what
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came out of the cave that was the first music that got born right and so every
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time I play it I'm trying my best to to be in the space of tuning the
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planet I have no words I'm just going to go to the next picture right so before we talk about this um well actually as
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we're talking about this this is your your newest recording newest release correct yep and I'm going to let people
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know how they can uh pick up a copy of this I'm putting a QR code here take
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your phones out guys and just scan it and it will take you over uh to the page
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that has all of this on it there's also a link in the comments okay now I'm going to remove this so tell us about
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this album when did it come out uh it came out in July of this year
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wow yeah so it's hot off the press what's what's unique about it and terms
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of what I've done to this point is it was it was a specifically commissioned
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Suite of Music um designed in a therapeutic clinical setting for people suffering
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from PTSD anxiety grief mental health
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challenges stress the stuff of Modern Life yeah
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um Steve Hurst who was the benefactor that that approached me I met him at the
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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame when I played there years ago and he told me he was launching this company and that he had
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an idea for some music um the more he described what it was he was looking for the more I thought huh I know the guys
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that I can put this together with wow so if you look at the
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screen um on the on the the the three guys on the right are are buddies of
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mine from Kentucky that I have not been in touch with or played music with in in
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30 years wow right um Bruce on the top
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is actually the grandson of happy Chandler who I invoked earlier right and Bruce plays on the original compassion
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CD they're all they're all Sonic Geniuses wow and
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they've they got the vibe so I just called them up and I'm like this what it is are you interested right then I
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called my La guys CJ and Ben and said this is what it is are you interested
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and then I lined up all the sessions and what happened when we
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started rolling tape as it were was it just felt like this spigot opened up and
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this music started pouring in wow the phenomenon was very clear to me as long
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as I played what I was hearing for the cell line the guys were going to play what
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they were hearing and it was going to mesh now obviously we were listening very carefully but we were being carried
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by it so the sessions are ridiculous right I get back to where I
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am now on a top of a mountain near Woodstock in New York and I did the old
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drop the needle test and we had 16 hours of this stuff okay
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and I started dropping the needle and no matter where I dropped it the thing was in the pocket always so I was like gosh
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oh my God so then I was like okay so
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then let's just do edits and I I would intuitively make an edit and and my guy
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that I was mixing with sha Boyd at Art Farms he
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I in the the three weeks that we mixed it down I made one
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comment and it wasn't is that perfect is that what you're saying right and
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then uh you know you're check you're crosschecking and I wanted to make sure
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that he was getting feeling the vibe and he was like totally feeling the vibe so then I called my buddy Rob foni who is
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in in the world of of recording engineers and rock and roll he's way up there he built shangraw
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Studios for Bob Dylan the band Planet WS for Dylan Keith Richard's personal
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engineer uh remastered Bob Marley's catalog and I and I so I bring it to Rob
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for the mastering and he's got a proprietary algorithm called real feel which basically emulsifies the digital
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so it sounds analog wow and you know with a little bit of trepidation I I
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brought it to Rob and I said you know how does it sound right above and beyond what do you
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think about it how does it sound right and he s he said it sounds great he goes
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wait till I'm done with it okay so what happens when you put it on is you go
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into the same um really peaceful calm state that
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we were in when we were recording it which makes total sense it just it just it locks you into that that
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yeah I I can't wait to listen to it um again uh for those of you who are here whether you're live or on replay go
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ahead and scan this and first of all the website is beautiful so there's a lot of different things there that you can find
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um information about who and and what you you do um so Millennium music came
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out with this second CD the second album I don't what we call them anymore they're not albums they're not CDs
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they're digital what are they I don't know what they are anymore calling them albums because it is an album to the
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degree that it's an album yeah
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and I I I listen to what you said and I I you sent me a bunch of notes and you talk about mental health and PTSD and
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anxiety in this and this is such a hot not just a Hot Topic such an important topic so many people so many people I
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don't think I know a single person is that is not suffering from some sort of anxiety based upon what's going on in
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our world and music is so important um I've always said that music is the universal language and that it speaks to
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those who might not otherwise understand hear or even comprehend because you
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don't have to know the language you don't have to know the words it's the melody itself how do you feel about that I mean I'm guessing you probably feel
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similar but well there's no question about it
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um the question that I had was can you can it work when it's when it's not live
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right can it work through these mediums um and and that was our
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challenge with the original compassion CD from the cave and and we Prov that that it that it it can work that it can
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actually put you in a state of well-being right that some people when I
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say it's it's a little loaded when you say healing music because there there's
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kind of a f out there now which is like basically healing sound right but that's
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different than music right um
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so I somebody asked me one time they said how do you know it works and it was
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a challenge like what's what's the evidence and I said I know when if it's
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worked when when I played live or when somebody's listened to it when I can see the light shining out of their eyes
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right that that's when I know and if I don't see the light shining out of their eyes or if then I know that that it
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hasn't worked so then the the challenge to myself was I have to be able to make
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it work when I'm playing right live I have to make it work every single time no excuses no matter what
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right um and and that's where the the practice comes in but that goes back to
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this business of tuning of taking oneself outside of The Fray of of the
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increasingly chaotic world that that's in we're in
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crisis right I mean that's just the reality we're in a global crisis people
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are freaked out nobody knows what to say people are scared to say stuff right and
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nobody few people know what to do or or you know what can I do how can I help
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right well you're doing your part Michael you're you're doing more more than your your part you know we started
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out by saying you you were dropping names but I mean you've played Hollywood bulll Time Square you've played for his
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majesty King Abdullah II at the Royal Palace in Jordan and with the Jerusalem Symphony or orchestra in Jerusalem and
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you most recently performed for the retirement celebration of the 20th chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
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General Mark Miley now I'm going to ask you what's next I do know what's next
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why don't you tell us what's happening next next year in June so uh June 6th 2024 is the 80th
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anniversary of dday and I had the great privilege this recent June of being
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invited for the 79th and playing what I've come to call musical Keynotes which
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are essentially Musical benedictions that that set the tone and for the
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dedication ceremony of the Theodore Ros of El Jr Monument who was a hero
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that it's in the little town called St Mar AG which was the first town that was
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liberated by the Allies oh okay and when you go there it's kind of like when you go to
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Jerusalem it's not that big but when you go there you're very clear picture there
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you're very clear right right you can feel it you you you just and and it
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breaks you right it just breaks and so I spent God it was about a week
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maybe eight days it was but it was very much like the six days with the Daly Lama I I'd
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been through the that movie before that the cast was totally different it was
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four star generals representing all the battalions that had fought in Normandy
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right and it was all normal but it was also not normal right and then to play into that
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space was there some performances are bigger
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than others some are more intense than others right um and I remember playing
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for the for the VIP generals dinner I I I played the pavon by Revel because I've
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always loved that that Melody that you know just floats and I I just remember
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my left hand was like I wasn't doing anything and it was going like that I mean it was just like it was on so for
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the 80th it goes to the next level oh and I just left out one key piece so at
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the Theodore Roosevelt Jr Monument dedication General Mark Millie and his wife Holly were there uh and seated next
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to them was um Senator former Senator Bill Nelson who's now the the director of NASA who just happened to be in
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Europe and wanted to stop by okay it was it was like that yeah so so after I
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after I finished um I looked over at General Millie now he he hasn't you know
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he's still chairman The Joint Chiefs at this point and what did I see I saw a
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light coming out of his eyes I was like okay good I I mission accomplished and then I went over just to say hello and
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we just hit it off and we talked and talked and talked and then so now I've
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become friends with the Millies who are the most extraordinary human beings you can
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imagine and so part of what's happening with the
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healing music on the ramp to the 80th is to now begin to take it into the front
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lines of the hospitals by the bedsides to to the veterans into the hospice you
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know Elderly Care Facilities because that's where it can make an immediate
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impact and it's also where people from the outside side because you're always
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needing to to find support for these kinds of initiatives people can get it right it's it's really tangible yeah
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yeah yeah I mean you you talk about music um being the the healing balm
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right to bring Humanity back into harmony with each other and with the natural world we need you I I mean we
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need you and many like you to to to do this and and to open our ears and our
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hearts yeah well I mean fundamentally we need each other and that's really difficult
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in as things you know fracture more and more it it's very easy to for us to to
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automatically Retreat and withdraw but we already did that in the pandemic
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right right already had that we did that now it's like you know as the Beatles saying come together right now over me
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if so if the music can be the thing that can that magnetize us to the center so
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when I go back over for the 80th you know I have I have one Mission which is to touch everyone that's there
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with with the tones that come out of here and for the 80th the whole thing
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goes to the presidential Kings level with President Biden King Charles you know airspace is closed it's it's a
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whole other thing in the context of what's going on globally right now right
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okay and yet Michael you remain humble throughout all of this and H how do you
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do that well somebody asked me it was my my friends that are the the the bellmen
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at the United Nations Millennium Hotel in New York City including Azie the bell captain I mean they're straight out of
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Central Casting and and there's a great guy named Eddie uh they've all been
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there 35 or 40 years so they've seen it all right they've seen it all right and
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Eddie said to me one time he said man how do you stay so positive I said because I've been
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through hell and high water and back so many times that it was the only logical
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resolution of it right it's like the the suffering leads to the the the
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exaltation um but it also it annihilates
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your ultimately your desire for the outer um um acknowledgement like
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that New York Times quote back then it meant everything to me now it's like it
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was just another thing that happened right right and and being around the
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doly Lama and you know that's like that's where I learned the rules of the game right and and rule number one is
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get out of your head it's it has nothing to do with you and and I think all of
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the Great musicians and Painters writers all say it's just I have to get out of
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my way and then it flows through right yeah I I agree with you I I say the same thing I'm a musician absolutely you have
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to get out of your own way and you have to it's it's about that not this yeah yeah um for those who are figuring out
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they need to know you more which I am sure they already know go and visit uh Michael at his website Michael
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Fitzpatrick dcom you can also visit him on his Facebook page at Michael
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Fitzpatrick cello and on Instagram @ tuning theplanet and finally go pick
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yourself up a copy of this we'd love to hear what you say what you have have to say about the music um and again if you
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just want to QR it do that because that's much more fun I think Michael any
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last minute thoughts anything that you want our viewers your viewers to know
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about keeping the peace with music
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yeah I think the you know as a child my hero was Martin Luther King and that
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eyes on the prize maybe it's ears on the prize you know maybe it's hearts on the
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prize that the only way we're getting through this thing is to find
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composure within ourselves and and kindness that we can
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that we can be right that can change things right
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that can change things um and and also being very pragmatic I think
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about the realities of this
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chaostrophe23 obvously we need to find a way
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[Music] to God bless johanny Mitchell to get
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back to the garden and and the garden without mixing the metaphor too much is
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is is within us uh and if the music can can be that balm or it can be that I'm
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just having an image of like a fishing rod and you know it's like to reel that reel ourselves back
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in um then um the the you know all that's happened
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in history will not not be for not right and that that's what's at
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stake yeah um hopefully we all learn from history um what not to do as we move
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forward and I want to thank you Michael I mean your music obviously it touches
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me I am sure it touches everyone that's listening to you obviously it has
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touched people around the the world that is where you go and you continue to go and I'm so honored that you spent a half
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an hour with us on our little screen right here uh for those of you who showed up a little bit late you miss
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Michael playing you're going to have to watch it on replay and scroll all the way back to the beginning because Michael entertained us which is just
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lovely we don't normally get stuff like that so Michael thank you thank you thank you go out and do good continue to
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do good and all of you you have a choice as to where you spend your time you to spend it with Michael and I and for that
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we are grateful go out give somebody an awesome day and we'll see you next time on Karen Glasser live goodbye