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hello everyone welcome back to another
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episode of Life uncor thanks for
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watching I'm Mel Greenberg and I'm glad
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you're here so this month I was doing
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research for our topic and the same name
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kept popping up it was in quotes it was
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on websites it was in Google you name it
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I had to know more so I went down that
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rabbit hole of course and I discovered
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this really cool chick she's a tedex
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and a life letters coach with clients
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like New York Life Insurance the
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University of Denver American Academy of
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psychotherapist to name just a few she's
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an author with the master of Fine Arts
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and creative non-fiction from goua
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college and the speaker and she does
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know a thing or two about ethical wills
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and best of all she's here with us today
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Nancy sharp Hi how are you welcome to
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life on court thank you so much Mel I'm
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so happy to be with you today and all of
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your listeners and viewers I'm so glad
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you're here and so I I do want to get
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into the ethical will issue and I have a
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feeling it has a lot to do with your
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story and how you ended up where you are
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today doing what you do today which is
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remarkable so share a little bit of of
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Nancy with us thank you so much you know
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I do I feel as though life led me
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exactly to what I'm doing today and I'm
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really meant to be doing this work today
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which is working with individuals and
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groups to help them craft meaningful
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enduring life letters um I'll go on to
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talk a little bit about the Nuance of
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the name uh in a little bit because
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you're correct the traditional historic
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term is ethical will but um when I began
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to First teach people and groups um do a
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lot of you know Retreats and whatnot how
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to do this I found maybe not
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surprisingly that there was a lot of
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adversion to the word will so I renamed
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it um and I call it the life letter
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because truly it's meant to be something
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that should affirm living today as well
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as being a document that connect the
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generations over time so you asked about
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my story I was widowed uh very young
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actually when our twins we have a
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daughter and a son Rebecca and Casey um
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they were two and a half years old when
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their dad my first husband died of a
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brain tumor those words would have been
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the most enduring gift imaginable
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because as it happens you know children
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as I said they're seniors in college
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right now they have zero memories of him
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well I have that experience I shared
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with you earlier I lost my mother when I
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was 17 and she left me handwritten notes
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I still pull them out and and read them
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to her handwriting I love exactly so um
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so that sort of is the earlier impetus
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and then I went on and I wrote my my
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book my my debut Memoir is called both
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sides now a true story of love loss and
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bold living and I just started speaking
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to different groups about storytelling
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and resilience and Legacy then I became
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a certified instructor and guided out of
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biography um which I really really
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started to teach in Earnest at the onset
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of the pandemic because nobody was going
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to big events speaking anymore I mean
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the world basically shut down so I
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wanted to find a way to make meaningful
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connections with people no matter where
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in the world you're from no matter what
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age you are no matter what your Walk of
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Life or life experiences is everybody
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can speak on some level about Universal
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themes like tell me about a branching
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Point moment in your life a moment when
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your life took a turn now in the few
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minutes we've been talking you just
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shared with me your mom died when you
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were 17 years old that's a turning point
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moment it doesn't have to be something
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negative or traumatic it can be
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something small to that his impact well
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I love that you took a pivotal moment in
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your life and turned it into something
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not only that helped you through it so
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it was quite cathartic but now you're
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helping hundreds thousands I imagine get
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through pivotal times some better than
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others in their own lives thank you that
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means a lot to me and that's exactly why
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I do this so it was through that work
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teaching guided autobiography that many
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students started to say hey would you
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teach us would you teach us how to write
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about an ethical will and I realized I
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could teach it in a way that would be
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very Universal and that would be very
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impactful it's it is life altering this
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work because we don't think of those
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things we think of leaving the will
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leaving you know who gets this who gets
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that and instead of who gets who we are
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and passing that on and that's
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immeasurable it is the most enduring
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gift of all there's no question about it
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you know the LIF letter can complement a
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legal will and I try to take the
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pressure off and to make it not so
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intimidating by suggesting just write a
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simple letter number one and I I have
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some nuggets that people can use as a as
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a framework more or less I mean everyone
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is unique and different but there's no
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right or wrong you're it's from your
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heart it's who you are right there there
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are a couple of no NOS I will say oh
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tell us right okay so the only things
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you should really avoid doing when
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writing a life letter or an ethical will
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is it's not meant to be 300 pages of
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your family history and the work I do
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that so impactful is to help people in
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groups write life letters which is a
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much more distilled reflection of what
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matters most it can be written by hand
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also you know if I love my grandmother's
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handwritten notes right but sometimes
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people don't have good handwriting I'm
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one of those people so I'll type other
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times I have a lot of people I work with
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they don't they don't want to do it at
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all they write it on a little you know a
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a legal yellow pad or they speak it into
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a phone it doesn't matter what matters
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recording you said speak to a phone do
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people leave actual recording yeah I
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always like to record them reading their
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life letter at the end so I just want to
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catch people in their most authentic
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moments um reading from their heart and
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I feel that's incredible to have what
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keeps you going now we're all aging you
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you've amassed this incredible career
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and you're touching all these lives what
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keeps you going forward I do feel like
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I'm doing what I'm meant to be doing and
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just to help people people and to meet
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them where they're at wherever they're
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at in their lives and their life's
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journey feels deeply purposeful how do
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remembered well um three words she was
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kind for me in my life experience
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kindness is is the value that sailes
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above all the others because it
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continues to bring me so many
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extraordinary gifts I mean so many of
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them that are unexpected what's
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important is to maybe
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yourself if you not not even how you
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want to be remembered but what do you
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stand what are two things you stand for
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what are two things that are really
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important to you two values and then I
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wonder if you can think of a
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story to wrap those values around um I
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kindness challenge challenge yourself to
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share a story about kindness it
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certainly is a time to talk about what
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have you learned um well it's almost
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like you know we always and especially
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in movies those deathbed confessions and
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when families come together the the
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father that was never there tells the
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kids how much he loved them and
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everything through his life on his
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deathbed instead you're providing an
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opportunity for us all to learn how to
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take these simple steps do it
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now well you know because it we should
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not be going through our days right
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just putting off saying what matters
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most to the people we care most about
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because and not to be morbid here but
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life can happen I mean my story proof of
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that that's a good thing because that's
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just part of the cycle of life but don't
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wait I mean CL say that in a but it is
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true it is true right my grandma used to
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say that when I would say how are you
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and she she passed peacefully at 95 and
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she would say it's another pushing up
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daisies it's a good one and I love that
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that's how she looked at life and it's a
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beautiful Vantage Point that's amazing
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my grandmother died at 96 and she used
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to say at my age you don't buy green
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bananas I love that okay I'm gonna
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remember that that's great right but you
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know we could buy a lot of green banana
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she had a good attitude so Nancy what's
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next for you well um gosh you know I'm
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looking forward I'm leaving a retreat
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another retreat retreat at the builtmore
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Estate in Asheville North Carolina in
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April and I want to spread the word here
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because I hope that um everybody is
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invited is that information on your
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website yes we'll have a link to it
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there um website again is writey your
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lifel letter.com or they can reach me at
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nsharp Nancy sharp.net and I do a lot of
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custom Retreats too so sometimes people
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will say gee you know I have a book
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group or I have a woman's group or you
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know I have families who've done this
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too I just was leading a retreat in
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Santa Fe I had two sisters and I had a
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mother and a daughter um it also can be
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something for Boards of directors right
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or Legacy donors so I I have a book in
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me too um I haven't really had a lot of
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bandwidth to write it but you know I
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feel like I'm I'm mining the Earth and
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I'm mining the information
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and and I go forward and what's next for
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me is just to continue to serve in this
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way I love it and you're doing an
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incredible job and an incredible service
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because as we've talked about in this
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short time we wait and and for what
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let's do it now let's leave the our part
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of ourselves that we cherish that we
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want to share with each other now and
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you're helping us do it and I'm so glad
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to have met you and that you took your
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time you to talk with our community
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today thank you so much for joining
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thank you and I I just wanted to share
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just one quick thing because I work with
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a lot of people who don't have children
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also and that's okay uh you know because
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we all have communities on some level
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and so um I wouldn't want anybody to
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feel discouraged if they didn't
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necessarily have children I would
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imagine Milestones can be lonely times
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for those and so it's wonderful to clude
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that thank you for pointing that out
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you're welcome you're welcome well thank
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you so much I you know just wish
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everybody well and reflective meaningful
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time uh working on their life letters
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thank you so much Nancy take care take
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care everybody out there ciao