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Who made Usher, Avril Lavigne, Kendrick Lamar, Fitz and the Tantrums and Boyz II Men, to name a few, look SO good? I'll tell you -- It's Wardrobe stylist and costume designer David Royer, from TheOnly.agency and he's with me today on this Little White Lie
David uses his keen sense of style to create looks and brands that feel natural and approachable. Something fans can aspire too while still maintaining the larger than life essence we crave from our artists for events ranging from the Grammys Awards, the Super Bowl, Red Carpet Premieres and more.
1. David - tell us how you came to be a stylist?
From simpler roots growing up in a small town in southern Oregon as the son of a schoolteacher and a mechanic. His passion for style, design and fashion brought him to London and New York before returning west to his hometown of Los Angeles where he continues to innovate, pushing past the expected with a sense of humor and great respect for his craft.
2. Back in the old days…in the Clairol days women were 'confined' to wearing subdued colors and 'dress like your age'. What's changed? Or has it
3. Do you think that societal norms are changing? How is the media and entertainment changing how we show up? Or….has it?
4. Let’s talk about young women dying their hair white or gray. Is it a trend or here to stay?
5. What's one thing you would like people to know about aging and beauty?
Do you follow fashion trends? Which ones are you loving now? Post in the comments.
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0:00
hello everyone Karen glasser here and
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welcome to this live episode of the
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little white lie so I have a question
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for you who do you think made uh sure
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Avril Lavigne kendrick lamar's gigi
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hadid and boys to men just to name a few
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look so good well I'll tell you its
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wardrobe stylist and constituting
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designer David Goyer from the only dot
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agency and he's with me today on the
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little white lie I am so excited David
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how are you good morning haha friend
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dude I'm thrilled to be here thank you
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for having me on I am so excited i mean
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i know that you use your team sense of
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style to create looks and brands that
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feel natural and approachable sometimes
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something that fans can aspire to while
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they're still maintaining you know the
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larger than life essence that we crave
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from our artists and events so I know
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you've dressed for people for the
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Grammys and for the super bowl and for
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the red carpet premieres I mean you just
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go on and on and on I'm just delighted
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that you're taking time out of your very
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very busy schedule to be here with us
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today so tell me tell me a little bit
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about your story how did you end up
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becoming a stylist to the stars well
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it's a honestly it all happened pretty
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organically I started in a very small
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town i was born in Los Angeles but my
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parents moved me up to Oregon so fashion
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wasn't exactly a giant industry in a
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central point Oregon but it was
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something I've always loved and I tried
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to find it any which way I possibly
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could so when I finally got to
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university you know we're skipping a big
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chunk here I decided to study theatre
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and I loved acting and I love cops in
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July so when I graduated the first place
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I wanted to go to with New York sort of
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the mecca of it all in my eyes at that
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time and it was it was very interesting
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because I didn't arrive in any one
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specific direction and I was trying it
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all i was doing little independ
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filmed and I did a little bit of theatre
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work and then I knew a very big party
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promoter there and she would ask me to
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make her different pieces so when she
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would go out people be like oh my god
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what you're wearing a rad so they would
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say hey would you make me something and
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I rent oh yeah of course that's great so
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when I finally decided that hey this
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fashion thing might be worth a worth a
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deeper look I moved back to Los Angeles
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popped into the retail market for a
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minute ended up at Dior on Rodeo Drive
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which you know is better than working it
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you know maybe so but in that wild I all
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right but in that world I end up meeting
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a lot of pilots and realized that this
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was not only an interesting creative
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dynamic career but could be very you
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know lucrative could be a in terms of a
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lifelong career that I could I could do
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you know till the day I die so through
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uh people i knew my partner being one of
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them i ended up meeting a very very
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well-known agent who handled by lips and
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hair and makeup artist and whatnot he he
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hooked me up with a few test him so I we
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could test the waters then he introduced
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me to a phenomenal stylist who became my
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mentor for almost four years and I
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assisted and studied under her and then
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it was time it just sort of organically
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happened and within one month of me
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going out on my own Usher's management
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called and said we really love David's
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work and we want to work with him and
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that was literally right right in the
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middle of the OMG period and that which
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led into like we were talking about the
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AMA the Grammys the Super Bowl halftime
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show you know he wanted to go to Fashion
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Week in Paris
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then it just so it just kind of blew up
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from there but it was pretty interesting
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that in essence you know usher with my
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first client so we're talking about
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being thrown into the deep end oh whoa
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oh poor you if that's all Genesis poor
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you so are you how cool is that how cool
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is that but I know it's not just like an
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overnight sensation you work very very
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hard to get where you are at and you
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continue to work really really hard as
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to where you are going and that's one of
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the reasons why I really wanted to bring
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you on today because I wanted to talk
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about aging and beauty as I have been on
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this journey my little I'm talking with
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my hands again but as I've been on this
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journey this little white lie journey I
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always like to start the show by saying
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hey guys look look at the grow out and
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look what's going on here because this
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is what I'm embracing embracing my my
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aging I'm embracing my grey I'm
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embracing everything about Who I am and
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that's why I wanted to bring you on
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because back in the day back in the
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olden days when I was you know Ali khat
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there Claire all used to really kind of
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guide people as to how their hair is
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supposed to look right if they talked
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about you know you know watch that gray
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right out of your hair so do you think
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times are changing our weaving or
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weeping told what to wear how to how to
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ask how to dress or you think that maybe
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things are starting to change a little
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bit I think that things are starting to
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change more than just a little bit I
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think there is a very large embracing of
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one quote unquote natural state not in
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the sense of letting yourself go there's
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there's very much something to be said
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for you know taking care of your skin
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taking care of your hair you know taking
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care of your insides and being healthy
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but not being still preoccupied with
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covering up what is quote unquote
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considered a flaw I find it bizarre that
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something as simple as going gray is
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almost treated like an ailment as a
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natural process in life right now I mean
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I'm bald you know and i started i
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started going bald by golly
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like I try to uh you know and that
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started in my 20 you know I have friends
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who started going you know very famous
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actors right now young actors on very
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very well-known shows that are still in
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their early 20 and they're going gray so
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and there's this push push push for
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youth youth youth and I think there is
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there's a place for it now but it I
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don't think it is as it is as coveted as
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it used to be well statistical touch on
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that I want to touch on that because um
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I'm noticing a lot of young women who
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are coloring your hair white yep silver
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gray what's with that is that a trend or
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or is that a sign of things to come I
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think it is one of those bizarre
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cyclical trends because i remember back
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in the late 90s that came into play and
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i even did that to a friend of mine pair
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drew a jet-black hair at the time and
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she wanted to be silver block or silver
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white and I was like great let's do it I
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think with the idea of what a woman
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should be and should look like is
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changing dramatically and I think it's
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because women like you rich Bravo are
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embracing what is naturally happening
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because there is nothing wrong with it
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it doesn't make you less intelligent it
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doesn't make you less strong it doesn't
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make you less assertive or it's just
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simply a pigment change so I think
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letting you know and you take women I
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mean you look at older women like Helen
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Mirren or Judi Dench or you know of
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those sorts who haven't been plucked and
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pulled in and they're stunning you look
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at observing right Jamie being perfect
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yeah quite Jess you let it go gray a few
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years ago you know rain beautiful
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you know for women and there's something
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I feel I feel that that is something not
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only women that would be considered
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their peers and age but also younger
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women and even girls can see that and go
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oh the future isn't it terrifying I
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don't have to live up to these
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impossible standards because wow look
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look at what these women have to come
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and there is look fantastic so I mean a
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question and remains to be said then our
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societal norms changing I mean is media
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entertainment are they changing how we
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do have society views aging or not is
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this just a blip do you think that we
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can go backwards from this or or is it a
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positive thing we're going to move
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forward is society of norms are they
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changing I think they are changing I
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think the the norm in our society are
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moving they're moving to a level of
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openness that I don't think we've really
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seen before before it was movement there
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was you know think about you know the
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you know early 20th century when all of
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a sudden women put on pants and it was a
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revolutionary you know there I mean so
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now because there's I will say the
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younger generation and even you know I
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think even the boob baby boomers at this
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moment in time are embracing the fact
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that there are just so many options so
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many space of being and the young really
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embraced variety right now they don't
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expect older people quote unquote to
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look a certain way anymore the way
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things are even campaigned aren't the
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same anymore you know and even fashion
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even the Honda utmost the the upper
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echelon of fashion on the runway you're
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seeing people of size you are seeing men
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and women with gray hair with wrinkles
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right so when when you see the diversity
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and you see how amazing it can look
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it actually I feel like it adds it it
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enhances so the norm I don't think
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there's any such thing anymore and
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they're around there's no honestly
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because I just don't believe in the rule
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you know aside well I'd honestly I was
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going to say aside from like the hem of
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a path but even that has changed you
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know my reasoning everything can be
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explored now and we are in for some very
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scary time but the basic level of the
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word exciting were an exciting time
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especially with the revolution of the
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woman I believe the woman is she is
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going to change the norm and that's the
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Royal she because whatever the woman
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does is going to dictate what the woman
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does dad know important is that you're
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saying this i mean i'm feeling very
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empowered myself by being able to show
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up like this i'm saying on social media
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these grey and proud groups that are out
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there and they have thousands and
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thousands of members in these social
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media groups that are going for
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encouragement and support as they go
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through this transition in life and I've
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been talking a lot about the little
12:23
white lie is not necessarily your white
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hair the little white line maybe how if
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you're going to have work done on your
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face or you have had work done in your
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face or what kind of make if you're
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going to wear or in my case in addition
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to this my 5-inch heels that I used to
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wear all the time because somehow i
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equated five-inch heels with youth and
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flat shoes with old lady people and now
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I were flat yes I admit it I wear flats
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I'm going white and i don't feel like
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i'm old i know that even though i might
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be 60 i feel that i am just as vibrant
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and young as I was 30 years ago and I
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think a lot of women aren't bracing that
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at this point oh I absolutely agree I
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absolutely agree I don't think age is
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the thing that we need to hide anymore
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and it's funny because it used to be
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there was it was a very long phase when
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someone would ask someone's age and they
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say well how will do you think I you
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know hoping that they would get younger
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could let knowing it let me
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thankfully that's what everybody wanted
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they everybody want to be okay yeah now
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I think people boldly say their age and
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their sterility with it a great one of
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those people I'm one of those people
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because it breaks all the myth of what
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age is and it's just like what you said
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you feel empowered and as young as ever
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that's your age frankly I mean we're not
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trees you don't cut us in half and count
13:47
the Rings it's just not that simple I
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even want to know how many brings I have
13:54
inside so okay so let's say and we I
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know we have a lot of viewers on thank
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you viewers by the way we're putting
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some of your comments up here what do we
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tell our viewers that are deciding
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whether they want to start taking this
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journey they want to start showing up
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however they want to show up and I'm not
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saying they said by not coloring your
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hair or by coloring your hair there's
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something wrong with you however you
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decide you want to take this journey
14:17
what would you like our viewers to know
14:21
about aging and beauty that might help
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the journey a little bit to lift not so
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painful because this can be painful in
14:29
the beginning what would you suggest to
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this I would take it in stages because
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there's no need to revolutionize
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yourself overnight you want to be able
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to I mean we are there people are
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constantly changing whether we want to
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or not and if you make small choices
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along the way you're not going to look
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in the mirror and all of a sudden see a
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stranger you're going to feel that
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you've grown in to this person
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organically and it's not going to appear
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such a shock to yourself and those
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around you because the hardest part I
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think would make any kind of decision
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all the questions yeah so just simply
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letting your hair grow out or maybe not
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wearing as much makeup as you used to or
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lowering the heel of your shoe you know
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or it simply just
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you know changing some article that
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people associate that you always wore
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but you're just like you know what I
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don't want to wear skirts anymore I'm
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done I really like my jeans and I want
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to wear my G you know something as
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simple as that or take a contact out and
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embracing the fact that you wear glasses
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you know they're just certain things
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that you know but then there's a bold
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then they're the ones he said hey guess
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what the gray has grown out a bit I'm
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going to cut my hair super short all the
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colors will be gone I'm address a funky
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new do and great any more power to you
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so yeah if there are no wrong choices in
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this regard that can't be corrected
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because you know we're getting a little
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white lie you try your glasses you still
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don't like it which contact second may
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be medically my hair girl yeah and
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that's what my hairdresser said to leave
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it if you decide you don't like it like
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it color it yeah it's up to you it's
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whatever makes you feel like the best
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you it just has to feel organic and
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honest there's it's very difficult to
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have a conversation with someone who
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feels that society has put something
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upon them and they are they appear as
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what they think they should they're
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expected to appear at that becomes
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confusing it does that I don't think
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that shows a I don't question someone's
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integrity so much but it does seem that
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there's a bit of insecurity and it and
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you don't want especially in business
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you don't want to have to work with
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someone who you constantly have to
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reaffirm and so like what you're doing
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it's almost a badge of honor and you're
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like okay here's a strong person we
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could you know we can Rumble with this
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person that's fantastic that's what I'm
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hoping for thing that is that you know
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what actually yeah I have a friend she's
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currently she has breast cancer she just
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finished her chemo and she's about to
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have a double mastectomy now of course
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she lost all her hair and she vowed to
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spend some time without breath
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um so when you talk about what it is to
17:49
be a woman she's completely embraced it
17:53
you know and she wears a hat because
17:55
been cold but you know she wears you
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know she wears her bald head like it's a
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crown and is not going to feel the need
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to wear big baggy sweatshirt to cover up
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the fact that she's going through
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something that women go through
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unfortunately so it is there's that
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honesty that I think is more I don't
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know it almost it's almost like an open
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arms I feel more drawn to people who are
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willing to just let themselves be the
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best that they are I love your lipstick
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honesty honesty in exchange for the word
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on then off sentence yeah I think it
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really resonates with me that the word
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honesty and I want to ask our viewers
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and whether you're watching now or on
18:47
replay later on I want to find out from
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you guys do you follow fashion trends
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are you following fashion trends so so
18:54
if the fashion out there is young people
18:56
coloring your hair white or gray are you
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going to go run out and do that too or
18:59
if the fashion trend out there is to you
19:03
know where a certain style or a certain
19:05
kind of makeup do you follow fashion
19:06
trends and make sure you post right
19:08
there right in the comments over there
19:09
at the curiosity what your answers are
19:12
we will report some of those answers
19:14
later on we got and we got John saying
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new joy at all well John hifi for you
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okay oh and we've gonna start throwing
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some of these up here we got Casey
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everhard hey Casey so you you don't you
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try to and I know all of your really
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cool shoes is because of other way it's
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because of David over here David is I
19:39
know your personal stylist he's awesome
19:41
and Casey you're awesome too so whether
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you're watching this right now or you
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watch this earlier make sure you put
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your comment over there I gave it I am
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so delighted that you came on with this
19:51
I want to let people know how they can
19:53
get in touch with you and also more
19:55
importantly how they can go see some of
19:57
your amazing work and how you have
19:58
transformed the
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industry truly transform the industry's
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on putting up your your link right now
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on the the picture i will also put it
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down below in the comments but go check
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it out i mean when you see really who
20:13
david has dressed and who he has styled
20:15
and who he has wardrobes you too will
20:18
know why i love this guy he's awesome
20:20
totally totally awesome and while you're
20:22
there don't forget to go and check out
20:26
the little white lie com all of these
20:28
posts all of these lives all of these
20:31
things that we've been talking about and
20:32
sharing with all of our viewers they are
20:34
there as well and I hope that you will
20:36
do that and if you're out there and
20:37
you're sharing things about your little
20:39
white lie I encourage you to use the
20:41
hashtag hashtag little white lie so that
20:44
we can start accumulating and following
20:47
these comments and this journey that
20:49
we're all on I love you guys I am so
20:51
happy that you're here with us today we
20:53
know that you have a choice as to where
20:55
you spend your time and today you chose
20:57
to spend it with David and I and I am so
21:00
happy that you did that and we hope that
21:02
we see you next let's wait a second
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before we go we've got Amy I'm going to
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put some more comments up here so Amy hi
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Amy hi lovely people you oh you only
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work less I'm with you girlfriend I love
21:14
that okay I'm just going to put some
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stuff over Nancy she writes I don't jump
21:19
in the fashion trend cool but I like to
21:20
dress with current fashion I try to mix
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and match what I have to be a
21:24
fashionista hashtag a little white lie i
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love it i love it you guys are awesome
21:30
oh and lisha okay we gotta listen here
21:32
one more gosh no I learned at a young
21:34
age trying to even keep up with them is
21:36
killed exhausting i'm with you i'm
21:37
totally with you on that one you guys
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are great thank you for being with us on
21:41
this little white light and we'll see
21:42
you next week on the little white leg
21:44
bye everyone bye David wow thank you so
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