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What do you do when the devil in you says "You Can't Do That"? I ask engineer and Fashion Model, Jacqueline Depaul this and more, on this week's Little White Lie. #LWL
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what do you do when you when the devil
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in you says you can't do that well we're
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gonna talk about that question and more
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with our special guest on this little
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white lie hello everyone my name is
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Karen Glasser and I am delighted that
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you're here the little white lie is all
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about the lies that we tell ourselves as
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we get older and it doesn't matter how
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old you are you can be young at thirty
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twenty or old or older like me sixty as
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I always do at the beginning of my show
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I do my reveal so here we go I feel like
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a little old lady from Pasadena over
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here today we have a very very special
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guest she is an engineer and a fashion
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model and her name is Jacqueline DePaul
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she has a degree in physics yes you
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heard me right a degree in physics and
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she started a second career as a fashion
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model at the age of 38 so without
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further ado let's welcome Jacqueline
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DePaul into the show hey Jacqueline how
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you doing I'm good how are you I am
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doing amazing and I can't wait to get
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into your story but before we do that I
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would like to ask you what is your
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little white lie my little white lie was
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at age 38 when I said you can't just
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start modeling now that's not what's
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done
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that's not proper so that was my little
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white lie and you're here to talk about
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this right now because you did something
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that not a lot of people do I mean let's
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be honest not a lot of people do that so
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okay you're an engineer yeah okay and
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now you're walking the runway oh my gosh
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I mean you know how did that happen
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exactly why don't we share with the
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audience how did that happen well when I
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I'm 48 now when I was 38 my hobby
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outside of engineering was ballroom
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dancing and I got injured couldn't dance
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anymore that creative side of me I
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couldn't express it anymore and I was
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very sad so I sat there reading
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self-help books trying to figure out
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what to do about this now depression
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that I had that I couldn't
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perform in that way anymore
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and the engineering I love my
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engineering it stimulates my
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intellectual side but I need the
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artistic to and then I'm reading some
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random book and I thought I think I'll
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just start modeling now and then Anne
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became just like the little cartoons
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that we used to watch when we were kids
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where there's the devil on one shoulder
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and then the angel on the other shoulder
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and the angel says let's model and the
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devil says you can't do that you're 38
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that's for 16 year olds and I just won't
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tell anybody how old I am I'll just say
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I'm 29 and the other devil says you
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can't just start modeling it's
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impossible and then well you know so
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there was this thing right I finally
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just decided yeah I'm not trying to be
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Gisele Bundchen I'm not trying to be
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Cindy Crawford I just want to model for
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the experience of modeling and the fun
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and so I just said I would just start
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with a promise to myself that there was
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no pressure to succeed or do anything in
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particular that was just going to be
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something that I enjoyed the process of
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and then I started and and it was a long
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process from there to become an actual
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working model but I did it and you and
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you did it and you're here to talk about
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it now I mean this is you know it must
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be kind of interesting to meld the two
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different kind of careers right I mean
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one is you're as we were talking earlier
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your geek side right yeah your gimmick
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you're a geek right I'm regulars you're
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in the fashion industry and what an
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amazing way to meld both right what is
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this amazing way to built meld both and
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here you are you are working you're
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working a fashion model and I was asking
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you before the show are you doing you
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know you're thinking about leaving your
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job as an engineer or are you going to
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do both and you said what did you say I
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love my job right I love my engineering
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job and I and I really want people to
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know that I think that many of us are so
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multifaceted and I think that we don't
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bother to explore those pathways in
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ourselves
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this really makes my life happy and
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balanced when I had the engineering and
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the dancing I felt balanced but when I
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lost the dancing
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I didn't anymore that was just my
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intellectual side but just to be a
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dancer I wouldn't like that either
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I like the multiple sides of me and I
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like the stimulation and this is a great
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like one day I'm all geeked out the next
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day I'm all I do you know what it's
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funny I've totally resonate with you
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because I'm I'm totally a geek on this
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side but I'm also a musician I'm a
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singer and so I totally understand
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having both of those things and it's
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kind of a cool thing and when I asked
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you what your why is for doing this you
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talked about your creative outlet let's
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talk a little bit about that yeah I
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think especially you know I was 38 when
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this happened I've noticed a lot of my
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girlfriends hit this around 40 they
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suddenly they're either their family's
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grown enough to be independent or their
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career has been well worked over and now
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they want to like I did express
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themselves in a certain way differently
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and I really wanted to like do something
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more and this is what I chose I mean I
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am 511 and somehow it it I was drawn
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towards work but you know like it could
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be anything it could be marathons or
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pottery or whatever you know or learning
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to code in blockchain you know like who
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knows like I think it's really fun to
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pick oneself up at this time of life and
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re-engage into it almost like we're
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teenagers absolutely Joey Garrity says I
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love dancing and got back into it
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recently now I happen to know that Joey
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doesn't dance for a profession but she's
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doing it because it's she has a love for
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it and she's eating into it she's also a
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geek like us and she does so I think
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there's something to be said for being
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able to meld all those things so tell us
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one thing that people don't know about
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you we know that you have a physics
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degree but tell us a little bit more
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about that well that's what I did in
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college I grew up overseas I wasn't
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exposed to fashion at all I was in third
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world countries my dad was in the United
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Nations so I didn't understand fashion
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or television I came back to the United
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States and went to the University in
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Texas
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that was the biggest place I'd ever been
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in my life right and and then my dad's
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an engineer like we just it was just
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sort of what was expected and I loved
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science and I majored in physics and I
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actually was planning to get my PhD but
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then you know life takes its turns I got
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distracted but but I love science it's
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like the physics is the most basic
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science of them all it only sits
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directly on top of math so it's very
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pure it's a very beautiful thing and I'm
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listening you're going it's gobbly
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to me because it's science is not the
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science is not my strong suit but you
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just walked the runway somewhere tell us
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where you knew in February for the first
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time in my life I was in Paris Fashion
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Week on the runway and I because I had a
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designer friend here that said hey I'm
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gonna show my line in Paris will you
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come and walk for me and I thought she
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was kidding I mean because I'm 48 years
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old like who's gonna ask a 48 year old
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woman to go to Paris she said no
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Jacqueline I'm serious like she's very
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progressive as a designer and doesn't
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care about these age things and she
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knows I have a beautiful walk and she's
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like just come and do it nice and I
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reckon there and off I went I ended up
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walking for three different designers
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and it was an amazing experience and
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it's the kind of thing that I used to
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look at videos from Paris Fashion Week
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and go I'm so sorry I missed that
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when I was younger like that's so
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beautiful and then Here I am in it and
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I'm like oh my god this is the most
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amazing moment ever so I really enjoyed
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my high I'm like living vicariously
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through you right now I have to tell you
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first of all you know I said you'd be
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there the show started you are stunning
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you are absolutely stunning and you are
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you are walking a walking representation
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to say
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just watch me right I am going to do
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this don't tell me I can't do this so
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what tip what one tip would you like to
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share with our viewers that might help
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them a little bit well my approach to
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this I think is the probably the easiest
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way to start something if you're there
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and you want to start singing or pottery
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classes or painting or a business I did
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not put any pressure on myself I just
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said I'm going
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start small I don't have to compete with
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anyone I'm just gonna do it for my own
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enjoyment and every little tiny step
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that I took brought me further down the
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path so a hundred different times if I
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had said oh my god I'm not as thin as
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so-and-so I'm not as pretty asan so I'm
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not as young as so and so it cetera et
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cetera I would have just stopped so I
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just didn't allow myself to compare to
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anyone and I did what I loved to do and
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now I have this whole thing going which
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is an actual second career which
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sometimes I can't even believe that it
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happened but it did and that was from
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just I would recommend doing it like
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that start small just do it because you
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like it not because you have to be
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Beyonce as a singer you know just we're
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so competitive just start and just be
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gentle with yours and Joe as Joey says
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enjoy the journey yeah absolutely enjoy
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the journey now I know that you started
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a blog around this and I'm gonna put
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your blog up here it's it's right here
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on the on the screen yellow brick runway
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com what what will people expect to get
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on your blog what are they going to read
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about well I have different sections so
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one section is called collaborations
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which is where I show what I do with my
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friends because technically a model of
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my age is not supposed to do high
10:16
fashion shoots so we do our own because
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I'm never gonna be hired for that you
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know so we make our own I've done
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magazine covers through this so that's
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the collaborations and they show all the
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challenges that we have in these little
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projects and then I have a diary section
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where I talk about my learning to model
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because it was actually quite a task to
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learn how to do it and then I have some
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other things on like fashion and diet
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tips so yeah a little a little bit of
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everything well I you know what you're
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an inspiration I think to to women
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everywhere whatever age they are that
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you're never too old or too young to do
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anything you are a perfect example of
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the little white line that you're not
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going to be told that a particular thing
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you can or cannot do you're going to
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March to your own drum so check out the
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blog
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know that you have a way to opt in on
11:08
the on the site so that you can get
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notifications when you have a new post
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up and all those great things I really
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encourage you to do that and I also
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encourage our viewers to go check you
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out and follow you on Instagram at
11:18
yellow-brick runway and they can also
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follow you on Facebook just type in the
11:24
search yellow brick runway and it will
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show up and I know that Jacqueline is
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going to be delighted to communicate
11:30
with you and respond back in any way you
11:32
want if you're here on replay make sure
11:34
you put your post down there because
11:35
we'll come back and we'll respond to
11:37
your your questions and your all the
11:40
different things that you talked talked
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about we've got Susan Jacobs she's
11:43
giving you a hand you know because
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here's the thing I mean this is really
11:48
exciting and I think that is women if we
11:51
were if if we just look to you and
11:53
people like you I had Cindy Joseph on
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the show a couple weeks ago
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she's 67 and she's walking the runway
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and this is what's happening so we are
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never ever ever going to be tool to do
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this right mm-hmm right and it is
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crossed yes I'm sure Susan says love
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this never too old and saying you can't
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means oh yeah watch me that's right
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watch me any last thoughts you want to
12:18
share with our viewers before we start
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to close down you know what I just
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encourage everyone to not be limited
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like just if there's something you
12:27
really want to do or start go ahead
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whose permission do you really need I
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mean really you just don't just go ahead
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and just move on
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so yeah exactly exactly thank you thank
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you thank you for those of you who have
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not yet picked up the digital magazine
12:44
that we have the little white light
12:46
digital magazine you can go check out
12:48
the magazine at the link that I put up
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here when you are posting make sure you
12:53
use the hashtag hashtag LW L and if you
12:57
haven't yet checked out the website with
12:59
all of the shows that live there and the
13:01
blogs that go with it
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it lives at the little white like calm
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listen guys we know that you have a
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choice as to where you want to spend
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your time and we are delighted and
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thrilled that you decided to spend it
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with us today on this episode with
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Jacqueline de Paul on the little white
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lie so go out and give somebody an
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someday and we'll see you next time on
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the next episode of the little white lie
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see you later everyone bye bye
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