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Lasser and welcome to the super boomer
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lifestyles show I welcome guests from
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all around the world to share how they
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are maneuvering through a world that
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worships youth and shames the beautiful
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process of Aging and today is no
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exception we are welcoming
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cinematographer and award-winning
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director InDesign e to the show and the
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topic is women in the front seat how to
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own your fear and fuel your future if
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share it out today our super Boomer pic
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of the week is it's actually really cool
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the reason why I pick this is because
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it's called destinations of a lifetime
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it is a coffee table book but the reason
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why I pick this is that my guest and
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you're gonna meet her in a few seconds
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she is a traveler she loves to go all
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over the world and she's done some
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pretty amazing things and I thought this
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was a great way to kind of honor who she
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is check out this book it's 225 of the
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world's most amazing places it's I
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believe it's on sale right now at that
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great price $25 and 52 cents I don't
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know where they come up with these
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numbers anyways go check it out let me
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know what you think and we're gonna just
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keep going all right so our guest today
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is indie signee she's an award-winning
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director for the short film the lesson
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she's an emmy-nominated symud
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cinematographer as part of the
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cinematography team for the Nat Geo
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documentary Ice Bear which was filmed
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near the Arctic Circle about the effects
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of climate change on polar bears she has
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worked for more than a decade as a
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camera technician and onset colorist on
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movies and TV including Gemini man
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wrinkle in time Twin Peaks Pirates of
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the Caribbean I could go on and on and
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on she's worked with directly directors
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including Angley David Lynch
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oscar-winning DPS John Tull from
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maybe from Memoirs of a Geisha she's a
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long time motorcycle writer remember
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that because we're gonna be talking
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about that for more than two decades in
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fact she did a solo cross-country
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motorcycle trip from Boston to LA
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filming her upcoming documentary women
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in the front seat which is currently in
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post-production and we welcome in indict
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Indy to the show right now come on in
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how are you doing today I'm doing great
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thank you I'm so excited that you're
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here thank you I'm excited about your
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documentary I'm excited about who you
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are as a person and before we jump into
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the topic I would like to first share
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what I say a super boomer is and I'm
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gonna turn the tables right on you so
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that you can tell us what you say a
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super boomer is so when I talk about
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super boomers I talk about not more of
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what they are not super boomers it's
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more how they show up in life and that
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they're fearless and we'll talk about
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that with a just watch me attitude so I
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went curious how would you describe a
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super boomer I would say a super boomer
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is somebody who constantly tries to
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seize life somebody who wants to no
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matter what age they're at as they keep
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they keep expanding and they take life
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they keep moving forward and attack life
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fiercely so and I agree I agree I again
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may be my fearless is more like a fierce
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kind of thing but I totally totally like
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that um let's jump into the topic and if
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you're just tuning in we are sitting
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here with Indy signee she is talking to
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us about her new documentary that that
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is in post-production women in the front
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seat but let's talk about how you
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started doing this in the first place
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you grew up wanting to make movies why
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and how did that happen
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I'm not really sure what initially I
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started to think about movies but I wear
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that there weren't role models that
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represented me as a girl and I wanted to
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be part of being able to change that I
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wanted to create content and direct
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movies that are more representative of a
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greater landscape and then oh that's
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what you're doing and that's what I'm
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trying to do yeah I do I felt that way
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from a very young age so how did you get
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started let's say you were talking to
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young women out there and you know they
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have the same mindset how did you get
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started well I think actually nowadays
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it's much easier to get started because
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there's access to being able to create
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your own content like at your fingertips
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literally with phones and very
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inexpensive cameras but I would I mean
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in the way I started the same way I got
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a video camera and started making short
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films got together with a bunch of my
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friends we called ourselves practice
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based productions as we were practicing
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making film you know we were working on
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our craft and working on our
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storytelling abilities and yeah I guess
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getting better and better at trying to
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express our voices and making the kind
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of stuff that we believed in I love that
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I love that so what is your passion well
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I would say I have multiple passions and
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I would say in my documentary combines
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my two greatest passions one being
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filmmaking and and telling stories like
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we were talking about that I feel like
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are not out in the media yet and are not
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representative of the themes that I
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believe in which is like cross-cultural
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exploration and identity and women's
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diversity and motorcycling which is a
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huge passion of mine clear clearly and
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clearly you're an avid traveler and
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adventure tell us some of the places
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I have been fortunate enough to have
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been to over 40 countries now well on my
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bucket list when I was in my 20s was
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two-year long backpacking trip around
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world and took a year off with my
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partner at that time and literally with
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you know three outfits in my backpack
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traveled around the world completely
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low-budget sometimes a dollar a night
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homestays and I've been living in New
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York at the time and actually our trip
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around the world was cheaper than what
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it would cost to live in New York for a
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year because we were traveling you know
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and also when you're traveling in
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homestays you really get more immersed
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in the culture right you get to know
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much more of what the life is like as
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opposed to if you're in hotels or more
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removed from it I would say some of my
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most favorite places you know are still
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in Europe like I love Italy and I love
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Prague well you'll be happy you know
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that we have quite a few visit of Ewers
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from Italy we have a great viewing
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audience in Villa so maybe you know
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they're gonna when you go back there you
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know you'll have to check that out
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how do you pattice how has that changed
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how you show up in life the fact that
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you have gone to you said over 40
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couldn't how does that change how you've
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showed up in life um well I think one of
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the love about travel is that it
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challenged you and it now I want to do
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like mentally and emotionally but it
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challenges your perspectives and you
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know we all tend to get really caught up
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in what our own our views and our
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opinions are of something and and how we
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see the world in the moment you get
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outside of your own everyday reality you
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realize that there are lots of different
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ways to experience the world and lots of
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different ways to see the world and what
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you maybe thought was like a foundation
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for thought it's completely different
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when you walk into a different
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circumstance and so travelling has
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rotten how I view things and and allow a
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lot of other possible perspectives to
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come in and that's um see one of the
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things that I also like about filmmaking
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is that like drawing in those
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perspectives you know you can help other
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people to see them when they're not
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necessarily going to other countries so
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this is a topic I told you we're gonna
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talk about before we got on because I'm
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fascinated by it and like we're gonna
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talk about fear and you know I was talk
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in terms when I described a super boomer
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I talked about I'm fearless right and
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you I'm gonna ask the question because I
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kind of know the answer can someone
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actually be fearless do you believe that
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there's such a thing I used to be a real
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advocate for being fearless and I mean I
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used to have t-shirts that would be like
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you know fearless fearless on them yeah
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I was constantly trying to be fearless
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and actually the first time that that
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was reframed for me was on my motorcycle
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trip I met a woman in Chicago whose name
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is tamale sap who's in them in the
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documentary and the way that she
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expressed is she's like oh you know I'm
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not fearless I'm full of fear but I
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would call myself courageous and there
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was just like a little light bulb that
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went off because there is you know fear
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is something that is actually healthy
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you know and it's something that you
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know as a motorcycle rider like if I
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don't have fear I think that's when
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people start to make mistakes um and
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that's when you know bad things can
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happen if you if you really aren't
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paying attention to those you know
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natural the instincts of of fear but if
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you if you say okay I'm afraid I am I'm
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really afraid but I'm gonna do this
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anyway yes you know that is like to me
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makes it actually a lot more sense you
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know you you approach like bold and
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courageous with that knowledge of fear
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that you have embraced and you walk
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forward with the fear and you take on
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life and all of its challenges so you
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probably would go by the the adage that
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feel the fear and do it anyways yes
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Hildur Ferrand do it anyways so that
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kind of brings us into your your
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documentary and you know your tagline is
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women in the front seat determining
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their own destinations and before we
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talk about it I actually want to show to
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our viewers a two-minute reel from your
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documentary that is so awesome
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so guys here it comes I'm gonna drop
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we're gonna actually be here but we're
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gonna put this right into the the show
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and I'm going to go ahead and start it
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every single time insisted sheer rushing
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I ride as a mixed-race kid I didn't have
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a community and when I first learned why
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the motorcycle it was transformative
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I read motorcycle all with a bunch of
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data base share assistant innings and
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it's a group of about 13 girls now it's
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complex and Mike's because every one of
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our writers has someplace I've always
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been on the backseat and I just decided
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it was time to get in the front first
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email before I was young I thought it
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was cute to be on the back I guess I
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would call myself previous courageous me
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means that you get scared and you still
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do whatever you wanna do so I drifted
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over to third right true and they don't
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know how to get back in a car you give
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people permission to make your life
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choices and that's not okay in those
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early years of writing is where a lot of
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inner strength don't want to tell the
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scene about that it really set me up for
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success now and in life to be able to
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take a look at what you actually want
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and what your heart is calling for and
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allow yourself to just feel like yeah
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okay I'm gonna go do that that's pretty
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they can fake this this sport isn't me
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that's all I can say wow I want to be
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women and yet I'm I am actually fearful
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of motorcycles but I like what they
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stand for and what you stand for let me
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put some comments up Lisa temple says
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yes if we have the courage to push
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through our fears and take action then
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we can fulfill our dreams Amen Lisa
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Joey said Indy when you first started
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crossing the country on your motorcycle
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you faced your fear in a big way and
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alva says fearless versus courageous I
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that was that's my super boomer moment
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actually fearless using the word
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courageous you did 5,000 mile that's
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crazy that really is kind of let's talk
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about let's talk about how this came
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about how did this whole thing come
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about women in the front seat um well I
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had wanted to make some sort of project
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about women motorcycle riders for at
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least five years before I did the trip
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and you know had talked other people and
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had put together different formats for a
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project but it those ideas were rejected
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by men and boardrooms who couldn't feel
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like actually what was said to me was
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nobody's interested in that and so I
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just decided that because I know people
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are interested I'm interested I know
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that there's other women who were
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interested and as I you know discovered
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doing my trip and since my trip it's a
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lot of men who were interested in
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hearing the stories of women motorcycle
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riders too so it it was almost when I
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decided to do the trip and and shoot the
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film there was a certain of a
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spontaneity to it I had a project a film
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that I was going to go do that went away
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and all of a sudden I had this period of
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time and I was like okay so I'm gonna
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I'm gonna do it now and when I started
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it I didn't know exactly how it was
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going to play out I sort of had this
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idea of I was gonna capture these
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I think we're having some connectivity
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issues okay you're freezing over there
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Indy okay there you go
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keep going okay so yeah and you know as
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like most things evolve and change that
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you don't you know you don't know ahead
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of time right it became something
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completely different like once I was on
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the road and meeting the women I just
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there were so many amazing stories like
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halfway through the trip I was like oh
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this is something much bigger than what
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I thought it would be and what I started
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out to do well one of the things that
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you you write it was it was so much more
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than just driving their motorcycles it's
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it's driving their lives right yes
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yeah and part of what I you know part of
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what I wanted to do with it was you know
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like women in the front seat it the idea
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was that like to express women who are
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making choices leading their lives on
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their own terms but then as I was
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meeting all these different women they
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were doing it in so many different ways
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to you know it was inspiring to me and I
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had a lot of struggles along the way as
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Joey mentioned facing my own fears and
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getting very tired and questioning why I
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was even doing it and it was the women
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that I met actually that kept me going
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and I have to do a call out to this
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amazing woman who I still to this day
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haven't met who's a motorcycle rider I
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felt her who when I was in Chicago and
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having one of my darkest moments I'll
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say she's got on the phone with me at
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like 5:00 in the morning like the
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morning before I was heading out from
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Chicago and gave me this huge pep talk
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on how important it was what I was doing
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and how worthwhile it was and I mean and
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she was a stranger like every single
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woman I met on this trip they were all
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strangers when I started out and they
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all welcomed me into their lives and
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they all supported the project and they
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all like shared their own spirit
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and their own vulnerabilities and did
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you find it surprising that that women
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were actually supporting women because I
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know that we hear stories out there that
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we are you know women are the worst to
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other women and so it sounds like though
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in this situation you actually had women
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who were supporting you on this journey
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yeah in a huge way I'm not so much
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surprised like I find that always in my
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life you know I I always like women do
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support women and I think that's a
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little bit of something that sort of
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like popularized in society
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I would agree I don't think that's
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actually reality I find that my women
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friends and when I come across women
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colleagues like they're very supportive
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and it's a very strong community of
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women helping women so what did surprise
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me maybe because I'm I tend to be shy
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and expressing myself you know on a
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deeper level I was amazed that like I
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would walk into these women's lives and
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they were so open with me like that's
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something that's difficult for me like
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it takes a little while for me to you
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know peel the layers for other people
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and these women were were so willing to
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be honest with me about their lives and
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that just sort of blew me away well and
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let's talk about that I mean we you're
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an introvert yes I am and we were
19:33
talking so am i and so how did how did
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that work for you out there when and you
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said that you were welcomed and and did
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it did that make it easier for you
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because you are an introvert that they
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were so welcoming um it did yeah I mean
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that was like one of the things that I
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didn't think about before the trip um
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you know I just had this sort of this
19:57
driving mission that I had to do this
19:59
thing and of course like getting it
20:01
already with the motorcycle gear and the
20:03
camera gear and and finding you know
20:05
very good at logistics I can nail
20:07
logistics so I got a little logistics
20:10
worked out and all of a sudden I started
20:12
going up these strangers homes I was
20:13
like oh shoot I gotta talk to the people
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did he get in here it it did be easier I
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wouldn't say the showing up got easier
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uh my first moment with everybody always
20:30
was very difficult for me yeah but I
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would say the talking to people I got I
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got more comfortable faster oh that's
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good oh yeah it was so hard but yeah
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yeah that's because I found as I was
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going that people were so welcoming so
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as we're sitting here we're talking to
20:51
Indy signee and about women in the front
20:53
seat and and her documentary that's
20:55
coming out and I know that you you did
20:58
some crowdfunding for this as well to
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finish up the project that's been closed
21:01
but if you're watching the show guys and
21:04
you're saying you know what I want to be
21:05
a part of this I want to help Indy to
21:07
get to that last piece because you're
21:09
almost there I mean right yeah just some
21:12
music and things like that if you'd like
21:14
to donate to this and be a part of this
21:17
this wonderful wonderful thing that she
21:22
is doing you can actually go check her
21:25
Indy K sign a.com and you can contact
21:29
her there and actually find out how you
21:31
can actually become a part of this I
21:34
would encourage you to follow Indy write
21:37
on Twitter at Indy sign II and also felt
21:42
follow her on Instagram on in so I call
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it AI J it's in DK sign II and I go and
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join her Facebook she's got a Facebook
21:53
group over there page women in the front
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seat if you forget the Facebook it's
21:56
okay just put it in the search comment
21:58
column and if you want to see more about
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this whole story I'm gonna put the link
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down here because that's a lot of words
22:05
and a lot of images there but go and go
22:08
check out the entire story because it is
22:11
fascinating what you have done and where
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you have come from and where you're
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going I'm gonna go ahead and put this in
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here right now the link is now in the
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the comments over there any any last
22:25
thoughts or anything that we haven't
22:27
mentioned that you would like to share
22:29
with the audience about this or anything
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else well I guess one of the other
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reasons for the documentary and why we
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call why I call it women in the front
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seat is that I mean it is a specifically
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a documentary about women Otis nickel
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riders but the concept of it and we
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talked about this in the documentary a
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little bit is that it's it's really
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about just being free in your life and
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having the freedom and the permission to
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make decisions that are important to you
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so it's not necessarily only about
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motorcycle riding it is about taking
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your own personal freedom to live the
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life that you want to have that is
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that's the bigger message taking control
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of your life taking droughts life and
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and doing it yeah I want to thank you I
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am fascinated by what you're doing I you
23:25
know I think I mentioned I'm afraid of
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motorcycles maybe I need to become
23:29
courageous not not fearless but
23:31
courageous about it but I am fascinated
23:33
that you are a woman and that you have
23:35
so many women that you actually feature
23:37
in this documentary that get on their
23:40
bikes and they you rode 5,000 I mean
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that's I want to say that's crazy
23:44
but it isn't I mean it isn't crazy this
23:47
is something that you wanted to do and
23:49
you did it and I am you have to be proud
23:52
of that accomplishment yeah yeah I'm
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excited about it and I'm excited that I
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did it it was on my bucket list
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I totally love that I want to thank you
24:05
I know that you were all over the place
24:06
right now but I want to thank you for
24:08
taking time out of your crazy schedule
24:10
to hop on this show with me today I
24:12
really encourage our viewers to go check
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out all the different things that are
24:17
going on go check out what's going on I
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put the link in here
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the bitly down here in the comments
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click on that go take a look at it and
24:23
then come back and write some comments
24:24
in here tell us what you thought and and
24:27
because if this is fascinating I don't
24:29
want to thank you I'm gonna drop you
24:30
into the green room because I have my
24:33
super boomer moment okay well I want to
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thank you so much it was really an honor
24:38
pleasure my pleasure truly so I'm gonna
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drop you down don't go away
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I'll be back with a second thank you so
24:45
this is this is the time that I talk
24:46
about my super boomer moment and I was
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going to talk about something completely
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different but when I we were defining
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that whole word of fearless versus
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courageous because I use the word
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fearless fearless is my actually my word
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of the year of this year I use the word
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fearless I have a t-shirt you know as
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Indy said that says furless my
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definition of super boomers is that word
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fearless and after hearing this
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conversation about maybe changing the
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conversation and that it's more about
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being courageous and I really really
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really like that I think I'm gonna
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change my language about that and I want
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to thank you indeed because it's
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actually gonna change how I describe
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what we're doing here and so I thank you
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for that guys as you're as you're
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watching this and and you're paying
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attention to what's gonna hide you again
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I'm sorry as your pal what's going on on
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the show let us know where you faced
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your fear where you've done something
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courageous where you were doing
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something where it's it's actually
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identifying and creating this this world
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that you live and I'd love to hear what
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you think and as I say every single week
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I want to thank you for making the
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choice to spend your time with us today
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because we know that you have a choice
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and we thank you for taking that time to
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and so I like to say go out and give
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somebody an awesome day and we'll see
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you next week on the next episode of the
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super boomer lifestyle show goodbye