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Karen glassing her and welcome to women
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inspiring women rise together
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I'm Karen Glaser and I've got with me
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the America Joey Kelly how are you doing
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today Joey good really good Karen I'm
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excited about the topic today we're
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talking about breaking through the glass
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ceiling so I just have to ask you do you
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think there's a glass ceiling well to be
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honest for a very long time I didn't I
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know I lived in a bubble I lived in a
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bobeat you know but I also want to share
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with the audience out there is that we
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started doing this series down at the
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California women's conference in Long
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Beach right and you and I started really
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taking a harder look at these topics in
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general especially down there at the
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conference and so we decided that these
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topics were really important to us so we
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think they'll be important to the
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community too and we wanted to continue
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the series absolutely fair so we want
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everyone to join us gonna be every other
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Thursday in terms of the glass ceiling
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so i honest to god did not believe that
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there was a glass ceiling for a very
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long time and it wasn't until the the
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election that was a big eye-opener and
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and also to go into events like the
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California Women's Conference et cetera
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that it became blatantly clear that
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there is a very thick large glass
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ceiling for women so so what what do we
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do as women then knowing that there is
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this very thick glass ceiling is there
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is there anything that we can do as
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women to maybe make a little crack or
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something what do you think I think it's
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like doing stood like like it's like the
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series you know and supporting and
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talking about the topics is I think that
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that was part that's part of the issue
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is that the topics aren't getting
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covered enough that they're not being
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authentic and truthful enough about
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what's going on out there and I know
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Kathleen's with us right now and
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Kathleen recently wrote a blog post that
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was excellent it was just amazing and it
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was about the glass ceiling and she was
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incredibly truthful and not then tick in
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it and she got the ball
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bowling inside of my group by posting
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that blog and so it's that kind of stuff
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is I think is a way that we start
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cracking through so you know for our
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viewers that are here right now and our
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viewers that are here every play we'd
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love to hear what you have to say yeah
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cat just came in I'm just going to throw
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her comment up there we'd love to hear
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what you think about the glass ceiling
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do you think there's a glass ceiling are
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you have you cracked through it or you
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just continuing on your journey hoping
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that you're going to crack through it
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put it in the comments because we'd love
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to hear from you and and we'll be able
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to come back and respond and we'll put
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your comments up here on the live screen
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as well if they come in during the live
2:51
show this is part of us as Joey said a
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regular series of conversations that
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we're going to have every other Thursday
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so that means that we're not going to
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give you specific dates we're but we
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will put out you know reminders that you
3:05
can come and join us and if you have a
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topic that's that that you would like to
3:09
make sure that we put on our agenda so
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that we can talk about it with all you
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we'd love to hear about that I'm gonna
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um so I'm getting a message from Nancy
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Ferrari that that the little wheel is
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circling her how are you guys being able
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to see us because other than Nancy
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saying that let's see if we can get some
3:27
comments is anyone else having some
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issues in seeing us well I guess we're
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okay then I guess whatever at least for
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now we are it's is live it's live
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production totally live production uh go
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ahead joy no so what I was sharing with
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you earlier Caryn is that it didn't it
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didn't really um hit me about uh about
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this glass ceiling and what bubble would
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a bubble I was in for so long down in
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Hollywood until this year and I was
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thinking about this that the whole time
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working down in Hollywood which was 15
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plus years is that there was only one
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network president that I was affiliated
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with ever so in a studio setting and at
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the time I didn't really think about it
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but now looking back I'm like oh that's
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it that doesn't make sense right right
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his by the way Network presidents they
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change out like like right that there's
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a there's a lot of opportunity for for
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Network presidents down there so
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other that there was only one that I was
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affiliated with is very telling so so
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cat just I just put the comment up there
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glass ceiling is real and having my own
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business for 20 plus years means I've
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had to face my own inner glass ceiling
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and you know is good I was going to ask
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Joey what you thought because you were
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in the corporate world you know in doing
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what you were doing do you think it's
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different being in the corporate world
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and being able to see that glass ceiling
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or feel the glass ceiling and then as we
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as women entrepreneurs and go into our
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own work do you think that maybe the
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glass ceiling is as Katja said our inner
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glass ceiling versus the outer glass
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ceiling that in corporate America yeah I
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would I would say that well no I I mean
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I think that there's a glass ceiling as
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an entrepreneur to I think it just
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crosses over and everything we do
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whether it you know whether you're
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inside a system or you're in your own
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systems but absolutely there is an inner
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glass ceiling that we're all confronted
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with as well daily because I believe
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because it is so induct rated in our
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community in general to the point where
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again you know Karen I'll just go out
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and limb and say this I think you and I
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are pretty sharp you know I mean you
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know we can get a decent head on our
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shoulders right and that you and I have
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both said to each other we really didn't
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know that there were the the depth of
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the glass ceiling out there it says a
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lot of how it doctor rated it is in
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community right right right so we have a
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comment from Kathleen no doubt it exists
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both externally cultural political etc
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and internally those handcrafted by our
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own inner critics I love that it's a
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great such a great comment it is it is
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now yeah and if anyone has chance please
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go and read Kathleen's blog I'll ask her
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to repost it again and branding for
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professional businesswoman it's really
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great that that's awesome so again what
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do you think let us know what you think
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and we'll make sure to go in comment and
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we want to give you a call to action and
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I want to give you a call to action
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because next Tuesday on my special
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edition of little white lie we have a
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woman who has broken through the glass
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ceiling literally and figuratively
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captures it captain Sandra Yan from
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Bravo's hit show below-deck méditerranée
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as a as a captain of ships and yachts
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and she has broken through the glass
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ceiling so we're going to be talking to
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somebody who has broken through quite
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figuratively and literally how cool is
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yeah and there's a really really
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heavy-duty male male-dominated industry
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I mean if you really think about it
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I was thinking about the captain other
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day I was reading a blog on her and from
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really from the beginning of time and
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ships it was always a male-dominated
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industry but they didn't
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there was a myth out there that they
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didn't allow women on the ship it would
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bring bad luck okay so so this this has
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been this has been a long time coming
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and she's one of just a handful of when
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we practice right naturally she tells a
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story about one of the ships that she
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was at the helm at and they were
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attacked in the Yemen and she literally
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had to disappear in a place where they
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would not find her I mean it's just it's
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fascinating watch what she's done so I
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know it's going to be an absolutely
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great show I'm going to put one more
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comment up just because I can and this
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is Kat I was called malevolent by a CA
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state legislature because I was not
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married with kids in my early 2030s talk
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about a dinosaur no oh my cat whoa I can
7:57
barely even watch CNN anymore because I
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hear all the you know congressman and
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and I do mean men you know and making
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statements still where I'm just like my
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god do they even have the Internet I
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mean are they're just so lost and so
8:12
behind the times you know something else
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I want to talk about really quickly
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Karen is the importance of this captain
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around sandy on Bravo has a series of
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many series as we all know and around
8:27
the Housewives for instance as I think
8:29
franchise for them and that series it's
8:32
just my personal opinion can be very
8:33
negative a lot women are constantly
8:36
fighting with each other constantly
8:37
yelling with each other I mean I don't
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think that's a secret right ya know what
8:42
I think that was that's what gets the
8:45
ratings because also goods we like to
8:47
see a bunch of women cat fighting yeah
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and so what I bet I would I really
8:54
the the marketing that they've done
8:55
around below-deck mediterranean around
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the captain sandy this time is that
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they're honoring her in the commercials
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they're respecting her in the
9:05
commercials they're calling her the
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they are highlighting her as relevant as
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strong as competent and that's another
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reason why I think your show so
9:16
important that you're highlighting her
9:19
because we want to show the media
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because whether we like or not media
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isn't going anywhere okay it's just
9:25
getting stronger right right we want to
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show the media that hey guess what you
9:29
will get you will get the ratings you
9:31
will get the recognition that you're
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looking for by highlighting women as
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strong confident and not you know going
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to kill each other it literally like
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they're attacking each other on sets you
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know I understand that I'm going to put
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another comment up because this guy
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think just goes right to the core
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Deborah Pirlo says when I was getting my
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masters in health administration the
9:55
administrator at the hospital where I
9:57
was an attorney told me I would never
9:58
succeed because all the decisions were
10:00
made over the urinal and she continues a
10:05
male administrator of course oh my gosh
10:09
because I good thing I wasn't drinking
10:12
something because I was hit up all over
10:15
the table and you know it but you know
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the thing about it is is that is that we
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can again it goes back to the point
10:23
we're making at the front end of the
10:24
show is that we can think that this is
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in the past but guys it's not it's
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absolutely not behind us by any stretch
10:33
of the imagination I truly believe that
10:36
that administrator plus several others
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are still having those thoughts they're
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still have that mindset around around
10:43
that that that that's actual truth for
10:46
them I and I would have to agree because
10:48
look what our I mean all we have to do
10:51
is look outside our spot a little
10:52
community into the political climate and
10:54
this is exactly what we see and with our
10:56
leaders so I mean quite frankly why
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would that be a surprise right it's it's
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not and I think that the woman bashing
11:03
is actually increased and it's gotten
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- since this since the this new election
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yeah the other thing I just want to
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cover quickly is that I want to talk
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about how what can we do let's go back
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to what can we do because because you
11:21
where everyone here is action takers
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I mean we're absolutely all action
11:28
takers everyone's a leader right so I
11:30
would really like to see this
11:34
conversation go more globally and again
11:37
I would like to have these conversations
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with the media the higher-ups in the
11:43
media themselves and the way to do that
11:45
is we have to produce results that women
11:48
are going to support women and that the
11:50
ratings are going to still be there
11:51
right no matter and it doesn't have to
11:55
be dot dot dot and because they're
11:58
getting really stuck in that right now
11:59
and we have in changing that mindset for
12:03
the media especially for something like
12:05
Bravo is huge so Joey I want you to see
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if you can address this please speak to
12:10
female women and power in the corporate
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industry who still feel they need to
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exude their masculine energy
12:15
testosterone did you find that in your
12:19
industry I mean now looking back I don't
12:21
blame them like in terms the slightest
12:24
you know because I remember you know
12:26
when I had my aha finally and I came out
12:29
of the fog I remember people used to say
12:32
consistently all the time about the
12:35
women executives like oh my god they're
12:38
so lucky you know I wonder how they got
12:40
there they must know dot dot dot they
12:42
must know Sarina ever about their actual
12:45
attributes never about literally how
12:48
they they were bringing to the table but
12:51
it could go back to that a lot so I
12:55
would see where women will bring up
12:56
their armor or they would bring up some
12:59
kind of shield around them because day
13:02
in and day out always had to prove
13:05
themselves way more than the men did and
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that's even in the creative sector yeah
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no I get that I want to put one more
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comment up before we start to wind down
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Kathleen says thank you both this is
13:15
such a critical conversation I agree as
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savvy women we know it's real that
13:20
that I do want to share my belief that
13:21
work must begin with dismantling our own
13:23
inner ceilings we need to fully embody
13:25
our boldness in order to stand up speak
13:27
out and effectively address the in
13:30
justices hey Pat learn an answer amen
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and I what I want to address this as
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well uh CPV Joey Joey here we're heading
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out I'm going to ask you to refresh
13:45
yourself and to come back in and we're
13:47
going to continue I just want to make
13:48
sure that we get this comment so I'm
13:50
going to continue to put some comments
13:53
back up here while she's getting in here
13:55
the message was that for women you're
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much better yeah you start you were
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freezing up there I want to say so Karen
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and I went down when we went down to the
14:02
California Women's Conference we had a
14:04
very different agenda yeah right because
14:09
we decided we were going to do the
14:10
series down there and we were going to
14:12
find all these leaders down there and we
14:14
were going to interview them and we're
14:15
going to ask for tips and strategies and
14:18
advice the natural clothes but so but
14:26
that's universe right Karen so day two
14:30
you know I'm meeting Karen over in the
14:32
media area and in the press area and I
14:36
and I look at you and I said Karen I
14:37
said I think would you be okay if we
14:40
took a right turn because our other plan
14:44
is absolutely not working yeah Asli the
14:49
conference had so many men and they had
14:52
so many men's speakers which was right
14:56
it was very old woman's conference and
14:58
that was just odd you and I had a whole
15:01
different belief system walking into
15:02
that into that conference right and so I
15:04
winter and I said would you be okay if
15:06
we picked a really hot topic and the
15:08
topic is why are there so many men
15:11
keynoting at a women's conference on
15:14
interrogate like yes let's do it
15:17
that's a bit so so I felt like that was
15:20
a real tipping point for you and I Karen
15:22
because it's not that we're I mean we
15:25
are very outspoken I mean I believe that
15:27
we're very strong in our own right but I
15:31
if we would have taken that type of
15:33
right turn if you and I hadn't seen that
15:36
and been more witness to it yeah I think
15:40
that's probably true and I but I also
15:42
think that we've been on this journey
15:43
already as you had your aha moment and
15:46
I'm doing the little white lie and I'm
15:47
being exposed to other experiences that
15:50
my I myself have not had and I think
15:53
that really opened my eyes and that
15:55
finally was like that tipping point more
15:57
I think the best way to say it was a
15:59
tipping point as we were sitting there
16:00
looking around and realizing there were
16:02
more men in the room more men on the
16:04
stage and what was that all about I mean
16:07
it just didn't even make sense more I'm
16:08
in so many products yeah that even the
16:11
vendors were were man-eaters Braille
16:14
products do oh yeah and so it was crazy
16:19
it is crazy so it's very symbolic it's
16:22
very symbolic and it got me thinking
16:24
about another industry and we'll hit
16:27
this topic down the road and I want to
16:29
throw it out to the audience that they'd
16:30
be if they want to talk about this topic
16:32
around why is the fashion industry
16:34
dominated and dominated by males right
16:37
right billions of dollars are being made
16:41
by male dominant by by males for a woman
16:45
dominated field industry it doesn't make
16:49
and yet look let's look at last
16:50
weekend's opening of the Wonder Woman
16:52
movie right and it had I think it had
16:56
over a hundred million dollars on the
16:58
first night yes and it's the top um
17:01
selling movie of all time that had a
17:03
woman drew a woman director so it kind
17:07
of makes me feel like maybe we're taking
17:10
a baby step somewhere I don't know well
17:12
you know what listen that was awesome
17:14
because again it's showing media showing
17:16
Hollywood that women driven characters
17:19
that our heroes can make money and I
17:23
hate to bring it back to the money again
17:24
but that's how we're going to make the
17:26
impact and the difference so let's all
17:28
keep running to go see the movie over
17:30
and over and over again make sure the
17:32
franchise is rocky and guys if you if
17:35
you're thinking well why would I go see
17:36
one I went and saw it last weekend and I
17:38
have to tell you this is it's normally
17:40
not my kind of movie I go because my
17:42
hubby likes to go see these kind of
17:44
and I was actually glued to the screen
17:46
because they portrayed her not as they
17:51
portrayed her as a strong powerful
17:55
intelligent woman that also had all the
17:59
wonderful traits that we think about
18:01
when you think about women nurturing and
18:03
you know a mother figure even though she
18:06
didn't have children so it was a you
18:08
know Deborah's asking she wonders how
18:11
much had to do with how gorgeous she is
18:12
actually um I I don't I don't think that
18:15
that was the case in fact I saw a review
18:18
that somebody actually said that it was
18:20
awesome movie but they didn't think she
18:22
was that fit yes I saw that suppose that
18:26
fit and I was looking at that going
18:28
you've been training for minutes she
18:30
looks at how like if you go see I mean
18:33
and we definitely in the age of feminine
18:36
energy absolutely Allison I mean it was
18:39
amazing I mean this woman was amazing I
18:41
wanted to be her I just wanted to be
18:44
here which I thought was so weird
18:45
because I don't ever relate to female
18:48
characters on the screen in that way and
18:50
I related I felt like and I'm gonna
18:52
laugh because I'm gonna show everyone I
18:55
have my own little Wonder Woman that's
18:57
how I feel I mean that's really how I
18:59
feel Jillian and I got my Wonder Woman
19:01
from you quite frankly so I thank you
19:03
for that every Wonder Woman excess stuff
19:06
you said like we've been modern
19:08
goddesses drops used to have a
19:10
collection but I just telling Karen
19:12
earlier that I could tell in people
19:13
because I was getting so much Wonder
19:15
Woman stuff mailed to me that and no
19:17
more room well I love it it's it's on my
19:20
computer screen honestly God looks at me
19:22
all day long because I kind of it's like
19:24
my little my little Wonder Woman
19:26
motivation no but thanks for being on
19:28
today with with it yes funds we just
19:32
want to remind you that we'll be back on
19:33
2 weeks from now and I'm going to put a
19:35
link to the event page for the little
19:38
white light show with cats and Rhian
19:41
please go and and click that you're
19:44
going to attend and I will be thrilled
19:46
if you will share it out as Joey said we
19:49
want to show the world that we as women
19:51
can show up when we are motivated by a
19:57
hope that you'll go check that out I'll
19:58
put it in the status up there and we'll
20:00
be back in a couple of weeks we want to
20:01
thank you guys for joining us today
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right Joey I mean they have choices or a
20:04
timeout today thank you for being with
20:07
us and we'll see you next time goodbye