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This week on Aging Like a Fine Wine, Caren catches up with executive career coach, and best-selling author, John Tarnoff. Join them as they delve into John’s journey from the entertainment industry to becoming a beacon of inspiration for mid and late career professionals. John’s profound insights on redefining purpose, reinvention, and crafting meaningful careers int the second act of life will move you to consider your own journey. Tune in to discover the secrets to unlocking your potential.
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hello everyone Karen Glasser here and
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welcome to life Uncorked we call this
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segment aging like a fine wine and I am
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sitting here with John tarof he's an
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executive and career activation coach
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he's also a best-selling author he
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supports mid and late care career
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Professionals in defining planning and
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achieving more meaningful and
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sustainable careers and without further
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Ado John welcome to the studio great to
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see you Karen thanks for having me on I
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always love having you on the show and
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I'm just gonna start right off with the
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first question hey can I pick a
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wine yes so it would be a chatau obrion
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1989 thank you oh nice yum that sounds
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delicious so we digress uh let's talk
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about your journey yes how did you get
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to where you are today short and oh my
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god um a lot of trial and error a lot of
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beating my head against the wall a lot
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of learning lessons and um and having
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this I think this intention all along
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the way that I wanted to end up here
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which is doing education oriented stuff
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that that at the end of my life not that
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I'm there yet but in that in this last
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act right I felt like it was it was
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inevitably going to be about giving back
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love that love that I mean you come from
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the entertainment industry as I said
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you're a best-selling author you wrote
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Boomer reinvention which of course just
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basically tells all of us 50 plus or 55
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plus I don't know what to what the
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actual number is anymore so boomers are
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the last Boomer turns 65 technically
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December
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31st
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2029 wow and there's a lot of us right
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and um your book basic SE wow and your
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book basically helped
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Boomers reinvent themselves I mean that
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really is what it's about and and Gen X
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I mean I I wrote it at a time when Gen X
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was still under 50 I I look at it now as
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50 is the demarcation line right and if
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you're before 50 after 50 at 50 things
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change and for those of you out there
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who are at that point you're realizing
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all this kind of stuff is going on on
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your head and you're thinking is it just
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me well yes but it's everyone at this
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stage goes through this stuff and and
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it's so true so I guess the next thing
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to ask you so what drives you then what
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drives you to continue on this path that
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you're
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on this is part of what happens at 50
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you get this change where you start
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thinking more about meaning purpose and
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I think service really uh this is what
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Eric Ericson calls the generative period
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of your life where you're feeling like
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you have to generate every day in order
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to be meaningful otherwise you go into
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stagnation so we have that opportunity
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to either generate or stagnate I choose
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generate
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so what is when you think about the work
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that you do with your clients and the
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people that reach out to you if you can
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reach out to John by the way on LinkedIn
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um he's he's there all the time he's got
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a great show he's got a podcast out make
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sure you check it out but when people
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reach out to you is it normally the same
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kind of question I'm stuck yes yes
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invariably it is what am I doing and
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it's either internal or external
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externally you're getting these signals
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outside uh in your company in your work
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that things are aren't the same people
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are looking at you funny or you're
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getting these overt signals of so what
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are your plans are you going to
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retire all this stuff this this this
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this in in Insidious agism that begins
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to percolate at this point or you feel
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like what am I doing right my work no
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longer holds the same meaning that it
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used to have and I'm kind of thinking
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what do I really want to do at this
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stage of my life and and as you said it
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tends to be as it is for you and I it is
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for me as well is to show up in service
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totally different for the rest of the
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stages in our life it wasn't that we
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weren't showing up in service but it
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wasn't so obvious right the intention I
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mean we were I don't want to say
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distracted but we were we were focused
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on getting ahead uh establishing
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ourselves in business uh raising a
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family if that was uh on the agenda for
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us but but kind of figuring life out and
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now at this point we've kind of figured
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a lot of things out so what's next and
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what's the Legacy what do we want to
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leave back so that at the end of our
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Lives we can feel like we made a
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difference or we fulfilled some sense of
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Destiny and purpose for each one of us I
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I love the word legacy I really love the
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word legacy and I also think that times
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have changed right I mean it used to be
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at least in my parents generation and
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it's not even my parents generation my
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my dad is 90 my mom is 88 and they're
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both still working so that is very that
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is maybe not as usual
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as as what we are seeing now of people
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of our age you know I'm 67 just turned
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67 and I fully intend on working until I
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am no longer here and I think that's a
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different mindset right from the
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generations before you retired right at
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65 you're done I just want to say that
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the Nuance here is that when we say the
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word working we're not talking about 9
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to5 we're not talking about the way we
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thought of work versus play versus home
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right right we are talking about working
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the way we want to to make the impact
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that we want to make earn the income
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that we want to make if we can uh but to
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really find that way of connecting to
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people to generating business or revenue
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or meaning or purpose whatever that
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might be in our
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more malleable modular way right right
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and it looks different these days a lot
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we work remote a lot of us look work
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remotely we don't go into into an office
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especially at a certain age but with
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what has happened in the past several
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years so many people have gone into the
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remote world and I think it actually
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opens up opportunities it's great it
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really is great yep I mean this was
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happening before the pandemic I think
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the pandemic was just an accelerator of
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what was already happening we would have
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come here no matter what you know I mean
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Tim Ferris wrote The four-h Hour Work
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Week in 2008 so I know right so so that
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really I think was for me the
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demarcation line of oh my God there's a
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whole other opport Unity that we have to
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live a different lifestyle and produce
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even greater work uh in the in in the
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process it really gives the new
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definition to work balance right work
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life balance in our life and I work life
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integration which I think I love that
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work life integration so John I guess I
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just need to find out what's next for
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you I mean you've got a podcast you've
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got books you you you're you've got
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clients you are you're doing you're
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doing the good deed here what's next for
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you you know I'm I'm still ambitious I'm
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still thinking like a startup I'm still
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thinking like okay how do I improve and
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grow this business I'm in the midst
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worth the end of 2023 I'm in the midst
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of planning my
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2024 and uh putting those big hairy
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audacious goals on the calendar and I
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expect I will continue to be doing this
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until they carry me out you have another
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book coming it's in the
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works okay you heard it here guys you
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heard it here first next year sometime
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next year possibly probably the probably
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the year after probably okay and you
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know here's the thing you just said you
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are looking forward it doesn't have to
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be tomorrow it doesn't have to be next
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year you have your plans in place this
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is a you're inspiring what can I say I
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want you to know how you can reach out
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to John go visit his website johnar
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off.com and you can visit him on
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Facebook John taroff coach and as I
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already said LinkedIn John turnoff and
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on Twitter or is it Twitter X formerly
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known as Twitter however you want to say
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it at John taroff one quick little plug
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if you're interested in getting into
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this
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reimagination process of what you could
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be doing re-evaluating where you're at I
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have a little lead magnet that might be
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interesting you go to johnar enough.com
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four questions the number four questions
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no spaces and you will get a little
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questionnaire that is based on the eki
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guy the Japanese uh uh of meaning and
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purpose for for Life uh to start
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reevaluating this process of what you
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love to do what you do well what your
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world needs and where you can make money
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so I'm gonna put the link up johnar
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off.com questions that I do that
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correctly that's it that's it all right
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guys you can meet John there get his um
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special gift go check it out uh John
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thank you thank you you are always one
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of my favorite guests on the show go out
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give somebody an awesome aome day we
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know that everyone out there has a
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choice as to how and where you consume
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your information and your entertainment
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you chose to spend it with us today and
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we are grateful have a great day
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everyone
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bye
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