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topic is stereotypes we're talking about
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stereotypes and very specifically the
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question that we're asking today is how
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do you deal with stereotypes around
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women work and age and who better to
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talk about this really interesting topic
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then my good friend Betty Ann green not
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only she's my good friend Betty and
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green she is she is like my copywriter
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knows how to write thank goodness
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because me not so much I come up with
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some good ideas but she is the brains
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behind my blogpost and I want to give
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she is a content marketing strategist
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and a copywriter who helps small
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business owners positions themselves as
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experts to build loyal supporters
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attract clients that they love to serve
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from a 30-year career in marketing
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communications writing and graphic
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design her current love affair is with
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helping big hearted entrepreneurs I
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guess that's I guess I would be one of
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those big hearted entrepreneurs
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uncovered their unique voice and their
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brilliance to share their gifts with the
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world and so without further ado I'm
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going to welcome in Betty Ann Green come
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on in Betty Ann how are you today I am
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excellent I am so excited to be with
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you're one of my favorite movements well
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I I am really excited that you're here
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today because truly you know as much as
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this is the voice of me you are really
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kind of the voice of me so between all
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of us you know we really are getting
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this message out there and it just it's
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so exciting to see where it's all going
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and so Betty Ann I have to ask you this
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question right out the gate what is your
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little white lie uh-huh I have a lot I
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have to say when I was thinking about
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this conversation today actually I
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discovered my little white lie which is
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relevant it's germane to what we're
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going to talk about and so thank you for
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allowing you to get in touch with that
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you know and it really is that with the
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outward person that I was for years I
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struggled with roles I struggled with
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fitting in or not fitting in and I
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haven't thought about this for a long
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time and the idea of wanting to fit in
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but you know I was a creative I really
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didn't fit anywhere and before the
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creative was really talked about so I
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would either a piece and you would say
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oh I want to fit in and then the next
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part of me would say yeah but I don't
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even get that group they're not
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authentic where they're divisive or you
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know whatever that was back and forth
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and back and forth and I spent a lot of
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that it was a struggle and I don't think
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it showed outside on the outside often
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but proof so many years later I think
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with personal growth work and spiritual
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growth work and years of experience
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behind me I don't think I do it so much
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anymore well so we got a comment up here
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from from Kath Williford she says oh the
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rows of fitting and stuff we get caught
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up in isn't that the truth yes so true
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totally the totally the truth and we
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have done een who said oh I can so
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relate to this I think we all would
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really we can all relate to this so as
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we said at the beginning of the show
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we're talking about stereotypes and very
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specifically how do you deal with
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stereotypes around women and work and
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age to let's just jump in I guess the
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question is do we canwe how do we do
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this it's such a great question you know
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it is such a huge topic and I think
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we're going to go toe in the water here
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unless the show is several hours long
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with a lot of people involved um I think
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we can't um you know beat stereotypes
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the truth is that we come into this
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world in a set of constructs and
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assumptions as soon as we're in the
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world the location where we live the
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socio-economic level we come into our
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gender our skin colour our ethnicity our
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position in the family are the baggage
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all of those things are assumptions and
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constructs and roles and it's our world
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at that time it's our reality at that
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time what we hope is as we grow older we
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realize that that's not reality they are
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literally just assumptions and that we
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begin to pick and choose what are the
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roles that we want to have and what do
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we want to reject what do we want to
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keep some of us do it better than others
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I struggled um well we have where we go
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I think that was funny I actually put
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that one up and also you know why do we
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think our roles are what tell us who to
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be I mean that is that is exactly it we
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kind of fall into that we got another
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another comment the way I've found to
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address and handle my
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self around stereotypes is to keeping
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leaning into my Atlanta City oh my god
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cat well we know you are the queen of
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authenticity and and my love and it's
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such a great comment and we got one more
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here Wow let me just yeah we got a lot
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it's a really hot topic here um hold on
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well it cat said you're the real deal
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so you are you totally are the real deal
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so you know I want to I already kind of
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know you and I have talked about this
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but let's hear your story because the
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reason why I really wanted to have you
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on and to talk about this topic is that
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you you hid those stereotypes head-on I
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mean you just decided to do your thing
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so tell us a little bit how you
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navigated this and how your story really
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pertains to what we're talking about
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right now well I think in a lot of ways
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um yeah where do I begin now um I think
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one of the things that that is my story
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that it relates to a lot of folks out
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there because I hadn't II smack dab in
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the middle of the boomers 1953 right
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right in the beginning I mean right in
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the middle and so the college years are
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so we grew up in the 50s the Ozzie and
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Harriet wait years for shorthand
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purposes and then the 60s the 1960s
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where everything was against an anti and
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everything got blown open then the early
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70s when I was in college it was about
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working on women's issues getting the ER
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a you know pass into working for Ralph
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Nader's organization with consumerism
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rainbow coalition all those things it
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was like building a new a new role a new
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world and and at the time I said and you
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know I'm not getting married
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and I'm not doing a wedding and I'm not
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gonna bring two more humans on to this
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overpopulated planet you know all those
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things right when when the real life hit
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and of course I met the man of my dreams
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who still is and moved into those roles
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as a creative not feeling domestic I've
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never been domestic and from that that
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shift in time that we were all going
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through early women's live so I
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I ended up being I mean I was a
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housewife with two kids and a husband
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who was the breadwinner who I was up
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here in the corporate world and I
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actually remember the milestone moment
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um when I mean I was I was a I was a an
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active participant but there's this day
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right there you know where the milestone
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moment were been in it I'm living in
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suburban Connecticut my husband left to
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go on a trip in corporate America I have
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a new baby how the hell did I get here
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I love I have to write that on this
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green you keep on talking I'm gonna
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write that comment out though
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and of course I loved it but it's just
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how did this happen to me the funny
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thing is I had just gotten a contact
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from my brother of someone I knew I
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didn't know anybody in town but someone
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he knew who gave voice lessons and I
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picked up the phone and I started with
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lessons it was the only thing to do and
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actually ended up singing professionally
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for ten years um so that was a case
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where I did struggle to fill my role
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none of my friends were having children
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and I was already 30 nobody was having
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children so it was a matter of working
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those things out um and going through
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those roles over a lot of years my
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latest iteration is moving here ten
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years ago to California kind of clean
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slate fresh canvas where is my sweet
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spot of what I love to do and what I can
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give to other people that they need and
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that's where I am now and I'll get back
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to that because there's a piece of that
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that I think represents where we are in
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fuzzy and the boundaries right we can
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get back to that in a little bit so I
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like it has a view our dealers and I'm
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going to go ahead and rice right so hold
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MIDI and you're going to be in here all
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by yourself actually it just stops so
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we're just going to keep on going so
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let's ask our viewers what stereotypes
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are you breaking through right now let's
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talk about the stereotypes that you're
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breaking through while I continue to
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have this conversation with a Betty Ann
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and go ahead oh here we go
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and it go ahead and put your comments in
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there because I'm going to pop them up
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on the screen let's hear what your
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stereotypes and how you're pushing
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and and to create your your your new
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world for yourself as you push through
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those stereotypes so so Betty Ann here
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you are now your your you're sitting and
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we're going to be talking about this in
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future episodes of being a woman in a
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man's world right you and I have had
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that conversation but as you push
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through these stereotypes I mean I
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resemble that actually I you know was a
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stay-at-home mom when early on believe
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it or not I mean I feel like I'm working
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all my life but I was a stay-at-home mom
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and my son was born and after six months
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it was like as much as I really have so
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much respect for stay-at-home moms you
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have the hardest job in the whole world
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I mean you do you have the whole the
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hardest job in the whole world
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and I found myself six months in saying
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I couldn't wait to go back to work I
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needed to to break you know I didn't
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want the stereotype for me as if I
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stayed at home and was just just in that
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was the stereotype just to stay at home
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mom I didn't appreciate that and I don't
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know how you know you started to talk
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about that it made its its struggle for
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us I think as women it is it is um and I
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always worked I was able to create my
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own role actually and as I look back
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perhaps I did it better than I thought I
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thought I was struggling so that I was
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able to work from home I did marketing
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communications I worked for entrepreneur
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I drew caricatures um so I did art shows
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on the weekends when my husband could be
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could be home but I was able to work at
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home and work with entrepreneurs as I
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said with nonprofits with the corporate
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identity their newsletters their
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brochures their all of their marketing
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so I was very lucky in that way um
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here's what I think has changed uh and
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it's so exciting I think the reason that
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you and I are doing what we're doing and
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so many of the little white liars out
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there is this in its the gift of the
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Great Recession in 2008 good point when
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that happened the whole paradigm of the
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corporate life where you went to college
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and you got or whatever it was or you
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already worked in an auto factory
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whatever it was but the business took
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care of you you were there for a while
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up and had your pension all that you you
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retired at 65 you know you got your
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little watch and you're partying
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you were done and that just got blown
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out of the water with it with the
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recession when people are fired I'd
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forget downsize that's a euphemism
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they were fired they were dropped they
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were laid off women who were at home had
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to go back to work women had to reinvent
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themselves to other kinds of work as men
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did as well it was it was really in some
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ways a really rough time however it was
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a really creative time because people
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had to reinvent themselves and think
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about things in a new way and what I've
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been seeing in my personal life
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certainly in my clients and have what
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I've been reading is people got creative
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they began to find different ways of
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doing business so the corporate lines
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have been fuzzy the second thing that
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happened the beauty part is around that
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same time is the rise of the internet
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and the rise of social media so all of a
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sudden you have this open playing field
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for like next to no money you can start
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your business accomplish them they
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create influence in the entire world
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crazy and I think those two together
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changed a lot of things for women for
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you don't have to see people online
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you're not walking into an interview
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where they get to judge you what your
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age is what your cred is that doesn't
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happen as much anymore so I think those
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two things really have gone a long way
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the line and it's why I'm doing work I'm
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doing now yeah yeah and we're getting
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getting any night I'll take take I'm and
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it's not working I'm going to refresh
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the struggle to be taken seriously Nancy
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absolutely and I'm back except I have
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the wrong camera so I'm going back out
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tall give me get I'll talk to Nancy
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Ferrari there that was it that's it that
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is very true very true and all we can
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really do the stereotypes don't stop
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it's really our mindset around them just
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like we had to do as children moving
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into a you know that world we had of
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roles and assumptions and the
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stereotypes that we were born into we we
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can choose it's our choice whether we
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want to stick with in the month anyway
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I'm carrying on about Betty Ann you're
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you can you can love this is great so
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and this is great because we're getting
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some amazing comments that are coming up
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on the screen right now but one of the
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things that I want to make sure we do
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because I know you and I talked about
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you have an exercise that that you
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wanted to share with our viewers so why
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don't we jump into that and then we'll
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come back around so talk to us a little
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bit about this exercise okay
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so the idea is that stereotypes don't
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don't go away role expectations don't go
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away but we do have a choice of being
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aware of where we are and them my
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father-in-law when my father-in-law
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turned 80 at his birthday party somebody
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asks those questions that they asked you
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what are your words of wisdom for the
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younger people here and he said it was
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so simple and beautiful he said pay
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attention I actually don't know what he
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meant but it stayed with me because what
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I see that meaning is pay attention to
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how we show up and relate to the world
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around us and see are we making
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judgments of others aren't we
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stereotyping are we separating or how's
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our body in our mind in our heart
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feeling we were in this role you know
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walking into a room where we're going
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but wait I don't need to be here this is
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not a good place for to me to be so I
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really think that's the same thing
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there's a finger with the little white
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lies it's the inside job it's the
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mindset don't you yeah
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every totally green yeah and what I was
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thinking is as when I'm thinking about
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this I'm a word person obviously I
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power of words and I believe that
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actually our words are the out picturing
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of our our mind our heart what we're
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thinking out there so when I invite
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folks to do is to think about what
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you're saying think about your words if
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we stop I'm the first to do it it goes
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like head right out to the right wait
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how we show up and knowing our impact
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cap absolutely and to think about our
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words maybe take a day a week where were
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you thinking about what you're saying
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hearing what you're saying and whether
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you're making judgments on yourself
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whether you're making judgments around
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other people whether you're like whether
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you've drunk the kool-aid of a role that
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you've never thought about before it's
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not serving you um there's a lot that
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can be learned we can learn a lot about
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what we're saying out there one I love
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it one beautiful when the women say oh
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sorry sorry sorry you know that I know
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what is with that wait why do we say
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we're sorry for everything and you know
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what are we really we're not really but
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we have been conditioned to say I'm
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sorry we take responsibility for
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everything whether whether it's our
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fault or not I want to put up a post up
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here this is from Deanna and she writes
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a stereotype breakthrough I'm called to
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be a hybrid teaching and sharing with
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our age group and younger how we can
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work together my stereotype is age break
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through ages of a mind I am now a
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virtual nomad I love it and you are oh
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my gosh I'm watching you I'm watching
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you travel all over the place and we owe
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my gosh these comments are coming in
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Fast and Furious here's another one from
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Adria she writes my kids should stay in
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school not go to meetings or events with
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me around my business there we go breaks
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I did and then we got another one oh my
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god this is odd guys you guys are
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awesome I'm so happy you're Little Liars
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I think the stereotype is all part of
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the illusion we have been trained to
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accept now we have choices we are not
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stereotypes we are living in a time when
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we get to choose who we play the gift of
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roles is we can use different roles we
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can create a new way of being absolutely
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and Maggie want more
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I had a 31-year successful career in
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corporate in a predominantly male
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environment gave me the confidence to
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start a second career and having fun
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doing it a man that's awesome he is the
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she's the bomb she's a great example of
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that and you know it's great about that
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and she's a great example of that in the
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sense to what ended up happening is when
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we got jarred out of our jobs you know
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back in 2008 or maybe later um we began
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to say you know what I'm not going back
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there I want to do something that's
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meaningful I am worth winning in my life
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is she's totally one of those people so
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I've got one more and it's going to
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cover both of our faces so just be
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prepared because here it comes and that
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is I seek to minimize this this is from
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April Roga I seek to minimize the
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stereotypes surrounding special needs
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mom this one bringing it up because of
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the good work that you do April I think
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there are still some people who see
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special needs moms is incapable of doing
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anything except parenting for instance
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and I'm going this will be on the screen
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so you guys can read this and go down in
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the comments to see the rest of it but
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what you are saying what you are all
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saying is exactly the point that we are
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putting out here today and I want to
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thank you so much for playing with us
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you know what we've already been on for
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20 I might at the time it's just gone
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like so fast we normally don't go this
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long and I'm delighted we're just going
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to go just a little bit longer is there
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anything else Betty Ann that you want to
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share with the audience in this just the
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tip of the iceberg because we talked
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about stereotypes obviously we're going
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to do this kind of show again yes only
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that stereotypes and rolls rolls maybe I
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like the way Jen talked about this we do
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have rolls and sometimes were in them I
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would not trade my husband and kids for
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the world the role I had to do myself
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because you know to make it work but
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stereotypes are not reality they're so
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fleeting if you put 10 of these women in
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a room and picked the story open
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stereotyped and said what do you think
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it what do you think you'd probably get
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ten different impressions so here we are
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drinking the kool-aid of these
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stereotypes and they're not even real
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not real so that's like that is well
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that's right there there that maybe I
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should put that up there they're not
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even real they're not even
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we make them real bite by feeding by
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actually buying and drinking the
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kool-aid so for those of you who I'm
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sure there's lots of you who are
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watching this and saying how do I get in
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touch with Betty Ann green because she's
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awesome you can go to heart to heart
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marketing.com and check her out there I
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I cannot I cannot say enough how much I
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appreciate you personally because of all
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that we do together but on a friendship
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and on a personal basis you are the real
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deal you are awesome and I am so
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appreciative of you and I want to just
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thank everyone again for joining us
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because I know that you have a you know
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plenty of choices how do you spend your
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time and we're just excited that you
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decided to spend it with us so remember
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go check out the little white light comm
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we've got all these amazing blog posts
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on there again written by the amazing
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you know Betty Ann I really shouldn't do
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that right and I'm kind of stereotyping
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myself right now that I somehow I can't
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do this by myself but I would rather
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collaborate with you and that is why we
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work together Betty Ann I also want to
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make sure that and when you guys are out
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there sharing make sure you do the hash
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tag little white lie little white light
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you can remove the the because we're
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just using little white light that way
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we can track the comments because as you
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read the post and do read the post
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you're going to see that your shares are
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in there we're taking your comments and
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we are putting them in there because
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what you have to say is so important so
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again until we meet again on our next
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little white lie you go out out there
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you little white liars
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and you make sure that you give other
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people an entirely awesome day we'll see
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on the next episode of the little white
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light goodbye everyone