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is music the universal language we talk
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about this and more with my special
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guests they cause on this episode of the
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little white lie welcome to the little
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white lie everyone it's a lifestyle show
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for super boomers and beyond that will
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enhance your lifestyle health
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empowerment and more this is Karen
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Glasser and I am so delighted that you
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don't chose to join us today on this
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special edition of the little white lie
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we have a very special guest and we are
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actually starting this all over again
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you know modern technology is what it's
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all about we're going to be tackling the
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question about music and is it the
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universal language and so I'm going to
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go ahead and introduce our guests
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because I'm just beyond excited that
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he's here I'm gonna bring up this date
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cause is a world-renowned multi Grammy
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Award nominee as a saxophonist this guy
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is awesome besides being an old friend
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he is an amazing musician and who better
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to bring on a show when we talk about
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music but Dave cause so without further
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ado let's bring them into the show hey
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Dave how you doing Karen I'm doing great
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thank you very much for having me on
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your show well I'm just thrilled that
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you're here we had a little bit of a
1:16
glitch in the beginning so I'm glad that
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we're able to get us all back on and I'd
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like to start the show by asking you
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Dave what is your little white lie okay
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well clean on this one my little white
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lie is actually a white lie and that is
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yes my white hair I have been feigning
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being a dark haired person for a very
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long time I probably went started to go
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gray in my 20s my mom was prematurely
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gray and I have been covering it up for
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25 years I'm now 55 last year 2017 I
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finally decided to to bite the bullet
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and see what happened and since that
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time it has been absolutely an
2:06
incredible experience and once again
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proving the power of authenticity oh I
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you know I saw you for the first time in
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a very long time about a year and a half
2:17
ago and I remember sitting in the
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audience at at Uptown Theater in Napa
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and taking might like this to my husband
2:23
going look he looks like me and I look
2:27
like him because you were now obviously
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white and I remember about halfway
2:31
through the show you just stopped and
2:32
you said let's talk about the elephant
2:34
in the room and I just laughed because
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truly it has been I know from me people
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walk up to me all the time and say oh my
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gosh your hair looks amazing I think
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you've had the same experience right
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well I mean thing is I was so petrified
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about it and we set up these fears these
2:49
irrational fears for ourselves that
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sometimes they we make them into these
2:54
mountains that you can't even possibly
2:55
scale and then you finally say okay I'm
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ready to climb them out and you get to
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the other side you realize there's no
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mountain at all and that's exactly the
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way it was for me I grew my hair out I
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think it was maybe around January
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February of 2017 I was working with this
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cut the guy who cuts my hair for many
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years and colors it he held my hand and
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we didn't at a time and I think men are
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much more kind of crazy about their hair
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than women are I believe it or not maybe
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not but there is a double standard I
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will tell you that because most most the
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time men get if they have white hair
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they get the distinguished or you look
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so distinguished women right you know
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and I say bravo to you for for doing it
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yourself because you look fantastic and
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we were talking before about your mom
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who I know very well for many years and
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she's a beautiful white haired woman
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yeah but it was the first thing that
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happened in my career was I hosted a
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cruise I've been doing this for many
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years but that was my first public
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appearance as a great person and so here
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is a sold-out cruise with 2,000 people
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the first day before there was the big
4:07
kickoff where I was welcoming everybody
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I could walk around nobody recognized me
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all these people have been fans of mine
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for 20 years and nobody recognizes me
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with the gray hair was like wow this is
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awesome and then finally when I came out
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there I said a few things I said you
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know I just want you to know that this
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is the real me I feel very good
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some and that people have been so nice
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and come up and said compliments and I
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was out eating dinner and people would
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come up to me that I didn't even know
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and say I love your hair so honestly it
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was one of those great lessons life
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lessons that comes around every once in
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a while that is a great shot in the arm
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that you're on the right path and and
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again that magic word of authenticity
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really firmly stepping into your shoes
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that you were given and every time that
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I've done that in my past including this
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time it's been rewarded in ways that I
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can't even explain III agree I mean Joey
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Garrity says the power of authenticity
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it is so so true I found myself in the
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same spot I mean I sat in front of a
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camera for years talking about being
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authentic and yet what I saw in the
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mirror was not what I was portraying out
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there right so we did this right on
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camera so coming out for you was pretty
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ok is what you're saying yeah this was
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actually my second coming in I came out
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first at age 40 as gay that was my first
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coming out and then coming out as gray
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the second time was actually I was even
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probably a little bit more freaked out
5:37
about that than I was about the gay
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thing but that was interesting too
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there's there is a connection between
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the two both are about truly being who
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okay when I did come out at 40 that's 15
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years ago that was a very different
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world than it is today there was not a
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lot of people that were coming out back
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then and so I was concerned legitimately
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that my career would be over
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for whatever reason not only did that
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not happen but everything improved and
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it's not like anybody even cares it's
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just a blip on the screen but what
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changed was me inside and being able to
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be a whole person and being able to show
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up as truly who I was there's that
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really it was such a sense of
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empowerment to be able to show up fully
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in my life it was like the first time at
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age 40 really being a whole person not
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being two halves of a person what a
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wonderful message here it's dating right
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now because it's about being vulnerable
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right it's about showing up exactly how
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resonates with people but we all have
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these things I mentioned before the
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irrational fears that we create whatever
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it might be we all have them and it's
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everybody's going through their their
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stuff and it's incumbent upon ourselves
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to recognize when the time is right for
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us to scale that mountain and but every
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time I mean I've talked about this with
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so many other people with a vast a wide
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range of issues and problems the same
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thing as always it's across the board
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you face your fears you get on the other
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side of it and realize I was wrong this
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thing out of proportion
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isn't that funny I mean I I and I so
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understand what you're saying you know
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so today's topic we're talking about
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music and as I said who better than you
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to talk about music you are probably the
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most amazing musician that I have
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personally ever met you know and I've
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watched you play your brother well I
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won't tell that to my brother I think I
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actually have told that to my brother
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and he was probably a great day totally
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agree so the question that I want to ask
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is is music the universal language I've
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always said that it is because I think
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that it speaks to those who might not
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otherwise hear the words understand what
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it is and when you hear music it just
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it's the emotion oh my goodness look
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guys we've got the sax out here are you
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going to play a little bit for us I can
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oh my god saxophone and I play an
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instrument obviously it's you can't hear
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words when I play and therefore even
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it's even more so for someone who's an
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instrumentalist that music transcends
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all barriers language barriers I've been
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all over the world I feel so blessed
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that I have been able to have a career
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and a job that has taken me to the
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farthest regions I've been all over
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China playing my music I've been to
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South Africa I've been all over Europe
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I've been to all over Asia the crazy you
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and Kuala Lumpur and Jakarta Indonesia
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and stepping the plane and going to a
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country and somebody showing up that
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knows my music it's it's an amazing
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experience it's very difficult to put
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that experience into words but I do
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think that what you're the the theme of
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your show is incredibly accurate and
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maybe more so now forget about all the
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sides of the political fence and what's
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going on in the world right now music is
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and our business - I'm going all over
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the place I'm sorry but our business is
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trying to figure itself out the music
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business like every business has been
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turned out on its head but even though
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the business is still working itself out
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I think that the power of music to be
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able to comfort us especially in times
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of great strife and tumult and where
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we're at right now I think that music
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has become even more important than it
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ever has been to just provide the
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antidote to all the craziness that's
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around us oh so true and since you are
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holding the sax I'm gonna put you on
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solo if you would just just give us a
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few of those just the notes that you're
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gonna play with melodious notes all
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right here we go thank you thank you
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thank you thank you I know what a treat
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for for our viewers and our listeners to
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hear you play live just like this just
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off the cuff for us I really really
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appreciate it you know one of the things
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that people always ask me to ask my
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guess is why do you do what you do what
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is your wife or doing your music um it's
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a great question it's infinitely
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inspiring for me because it always
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changes I don't have a desk job I've
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never had an actual real job Erin my our
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life and if I did which maybe I went
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I was in high school I think I had a job
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for a day and it was fired after the
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first full day because I just oh no
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era mentally and maybe my body was there
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but I wasn't there mentally in with my
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spirit and that's that's the gift of
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music that it's been for me I picked up
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the saxophone when I was 13
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that was after playing a couple of other
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instruments really badly and the
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saxophone came to me at a time when I
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needed a best friend and someone to talk
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to and I couldn't necessarily put into
11:36
words what I was feeling inside and the
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saxophone was that vehicle it just it
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was there for me always and then but I
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never really planned on that being my my
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life and career but there were other
11:49
people along the sidelines of my life
11:52
that became those very very important
11:54
people that said no this is something
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that you need to do you need to be able
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to to play this instrument and and they
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nurtured me and gave me opportunities
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that gave me a career so I'm very
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grateful to those people my brother is
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one of them a guy named Jeff Lorber is
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another one Bobby Caldwell Bruce
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Lundvall who signed me to my first
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record deal at Capitol Records and so
12:17
it's been like a train ride since the
12:20
train left the building when I years old
12:22
it just been constant and non-stop and
12:25
so entertaining so that's really the why
12:27
is just I've never done anything else
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and I love what I do
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yeah I get it I totally get it you know
12:33
I'm putting some of your album covers I
12:36
do we call them album Stoller they CD
12:38
covers what do we call them now see and
12:40
I had to put one up just so that people
12:42
see you when you had dark hair right and
12:45
I have to agree you look awesome
12:48
in your white gray silver thing going on
12:52
you know you have a lot of different CDs
12:54
going on and I want to make sure that
12:56
people know that they can go pick up
12:58
your CDs just go over to the boomer
13:00
lifestyle comm by the way that's our new
13:02
super boomer store that you can pick up
13:05
all of Dave CDs and also Dave I know
13:08
that you do a yearly cruise in fact I
13:10
know you sell them out you do two
13:12
back-to-back that's how popular you are
13:14
and I think you're already sold out for
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our next Cruise is in 2019 March
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March 24th of 2019 and that goes for two
13:25
one-week cruises and both are sold out
13:27
it starts and ends in Sydney Australia
13:30
and we go armed our mantra our mission
13:34
is seeing the world together through
13:36
music so your theme today very much
13:39
plays into that whole concept which is
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okay if you go on a cruise if it's not a
13:44
themed cruise you put you get yourself
13:48
on the ship and you're with a bunch of
13:50
strangers now you are still with a bunch
13:53
of people that you don't know on our
13:54
cruises necessarily but you're bound by
13:57
your shared love of the music and
13:59
therefore when you put when you step
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foot on those cruise ships you're not
14:04
among strangers so you can talk to
14:06
anybody and we've seen these friendships
14:08
develop over the last 12 years that
14:10
we've been doing it people come on these
14:12
it's like a trap a musical Travel Club
14:14
seeing the world together through music
14:17
and my understanding is they love it so
14:19
much that by the time they're they're
14:21
getting ready to disembark from the
14:23
cruise they've already signed up for the
14:25
following year which is why people like
14:27
me that didn't get in in the beginning
14:28
can't even sign up maybe you guys should
14:31
be doing a third cruise just putting it
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out there just in case well we shall see
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amazing you're the boomer lifestyle
14:38
cruise I maybe I could and would you
14:40
come play on it if we did that us of
14:42
course you were of course of course
14:45
so I want to put some some things up so
14:47
people know how to follow you they can
14:49
go on to your website Dave Koz calm they
14:51
can follow you on Instagram at David
14:55
Stephen cause or they can follow you on
14:57
twitter act Dave cause music we got them
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all up there and so I what message would
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you like to to impart upon our viewers
15:09
about music and about how we can all
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internalize this and make our life maybe
15:14
just a little better well that's a
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really great question and I'm gonna go
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with the first thing that popped into my
15:21
head which is about instrumental music
15:23
because I'm an instrumentalists I mean I
15:25
have some but not very well and I think
15:29
that instrumental music is now we have
15:32
access to every piece
15:34
music pretty much of all time at the on
15:37
your phone you can put up Spotify or
15:40
Apple music and one of my favorite
15:43
things to do with my friends is all have
15:45
our phones we're all in a room and we
15:49
play this sort of musical one-upsmanship
15:50
so somebody will say well do you
15:52
remember this song from Steely Dan from
15:55
1982 and then they'll play that and then
15:57
that will spark a memory from somebody
16:00
else and say well what about this and
16:01
you know what inspired that piece of
16:03
music for that artist was this piece of
16:05
music and it's like the you play this
16:07
sort of musical geography with friends
16:11
just it's a very important thing that we
16:13
don't lose sight of that that how much
16:15
music inspires us on a daily basis just
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for example if you could just put your
16:21
put your head into the space of a day on
16:25
this planet without music
16:27
even if you don't turn on your own
16:29
stereo or listen to your iPod or your
16:32
have music coming out of your computer
16:34
speakers just when you go out into the
16:36
world if you could imagine what the
16:38
world would be like without music as an
16:41
accompaniment it would be a very lonely
16:44
and it would sound a lot different and
16:47
it wouldn't all the feelings that we
16:49
feel naturally that we don't even know
16:51
and we don't even notice are brought to
16:54
us through music and through the the
16:58
sonic landscape that we that we enter at
17:01
all times so I think music has become it
17:04
over the last many years kind of
17:06
devalued you see it with the where
17:09
record stores it used to be that you
17:11
know your boomer lifestyle
17:13
well boomers used to go to the Tower
17:15
Records or house or you know the the
17:18
multitude of record stores around the
17:20
country to find out about the newest
17:22
releases it was a it was a very social
17:24
thing and over the last say 10 to 15
17:27
years music has become quite devalued
17:29
you don't you can't go and buy it
17:31
somewhere you can't go to a store and
17:33
talk about it and walk the aisles and be
17:36
turned on to new music that you wouldn't
17:38
be normally turned on to so my message
17:42
to you and to your viewers is to never
17:45
forget how important music has been and
17:48
we'll be - just life and it's like as
17:52
important is breathing and drinking you
17:55
know we have to have it to inspire us uh
17:58
so so important what you're saying
18:00
before I let you go and drop you into
18:02
the green room I have one last question
18:03
to ask you and what is something that
18:06
people don't know about you Wow okay
18:11
well I've already come out twice here on
18:13
this one point it's something about
18:15
crossword puzzles oh yes I do my dad
18:19
used to my parents who died rather young
18:23
in their in their lives my dad was 68
18:25
and he left me with two very unusual
18:30
passions that were passions of his that
18:33
I didn't share when he was alive was a
18:35
strange thing because he used to do
18:37
crossword puzzles his two favorite
18:39
things were crossword puzzles and opera
18:41
and I used to give him such crap about
18:44
that I was like dad I don't understand
18:45
why he listened to this music it just
18:47
doesn't make sense to me and why are you
18:49
doing this crossword puzzles and he
18:51
passed away he was 68 years old it was
18:53
20 years ago and it was almost as if
18:56
almost to the day that he died that my
18:59
interest in opera and my interest in
19:01
crossword puzzles was born and now
19:04
pretty much as a way to just get my mind
19:06
off of things if I just need a break or
19:09
to go to sleep at night or sitting on a
19:11
plane crosswords are my thing and that
19:14
doesn't surprise me not not necessary
19:16
the crossword part but the fact that
19:17
when he passed that that those are the
19:19
things that almost immediately you
19:21
started to gravitate to and that's
19:22
because that's the string that's the
19:24
connector that is something that holds
19:25
your father close to you and that that
19:28
that is that speaks volumes to who you
19:31
are and it speaks volumes to who your
19:33
family unit is and was so I applaud you
19:36
for that and I want to thank you because
19:37
I know I I know when putting the show
19:40
together we were working around your
19:42
schedule and so first of all I want to
19:44
thank you for taking time out of I know
19:45
you're incredibly busy schedule and then
19:47
having some technology difficulties you
19:49
hung in there with me I want to thank
19:51
you for for showing up and for showing
19:54
up for our viewers for the bottom of my
19:57
heart truly I am blessed so thank you so
19:59
much and we will be in touch afterwards
20:01
to talk about all those other things
20:02
talking about I'm gonna drop you into
20:05
the green room as I get ready to close
20:08
out the show and again thank you thank
20:10
you thank you it's my pleasure and thank
20:12
you very much to all your fans - thanks
20:16
so is he awesome or what I mean he
20:20
really is awesome and this is now time
20:22
for the super boomer moment this is the
20:24
the point that I want to share with you
20:26
something that I took out of the
20:27
interview that it's - gonna stay with me
20:29
for a very long time
20:30
you know I have to say that for Dave to
20:32
be as vulnerable as he was and to come
20:34
up and talk about his two coming outs
20:36
which which you know not everybody would
20:38
do I want to thank you Dave for doing
20:40
that you show me and you show us and all
20:43
of us how powerful it is to show up in
20:46
our authentic self and to show up in
20:49
front of people and just say you know
20:51
what this is who I am
20:53
I love that that is how I live my life
20:55
so I want to thank Dave for again
20:57
telling us that that is the way we what
20:59
we really should be doing so I really
21:02
really appreciate that in the meantime I
21:04
want to remind you that we have Dave CDs
21:08
sitting in the super boomer lifestyle
21:11
comm it's brand-new we just launched it
21:13
just launched it this morning so go
21:16
ahead and check it out go go purchase
21:19
some of Dave CDs and then let us know
21:21
how you're enjoying it and how it is
21:23
changing your life to listen to his
21:25
melodious notes that he plays on that
21:28
sax and if you're so fortunate to be
21:30
able to go on that cruise get yourself
21:32
on that waiting list or maybe we'll do a
21:34
Bloomberg lifestyle cruise I kind of
21:35
like that idea maybe we'll do that and
21:37
we'll get Dave to come along with us we
21:39
want to thank all of you for spending
21:40
time with us today we know that you have
21:42
a choice as to where you spend your time
21:44
and you decided to spend it with Dave
21:46
and I today so we thank you go out and
21:49
give somebody an awesome day and we'll
21:50
see you next time on the next episode of
21:52
the little white lie goodbye everyone