On this episode of The Little White Lie Caren and Dave talk about: Is music the universal language? They cover the following topics:
On the Right Path: One of those great life lessons that comes around every once in a while, that is a great shot in the arm that you’re on the right path. And that magic word authenticity, really firmly stepping into your shoes that you were given.
Creating Your Life: We set up these irrational fears for ourselves that sometimes we make them into these mountains that you can’t even possibly scale. You finally say, okay, I’m ready to climb them out. You get to the other side and realize there’s no mountain at all.
The power of music is to be able to comfort us especially in times of great strife and tumult and where we’re at right now, I think that music has become even more important than it has ever been.
In a career that spans more than three decades, saxophonist Dave Koz has racked up an astoundingly impressive array of honors and achievements: nine GRAMMY® nominations, nine No. 1 albums on Billboard’s Current Contemporary Jazz Albums chart, numerous world tours, playing for multiple presidents, a Star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and more. A platinum-selling artist, Koz is also known as a humanitarian, entrepreneur, radio host, instrumental music advocate, and restaurateur.
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is music the universal language we talk
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about this and more with my special
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guests they cause on this episode of the
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little white lie welcome to the little
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white lie everyone it's a lifestyle show
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for super boomers and beyond that will
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enhance your lifestyle health
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empowerment and more this is Karen
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Glasser and I am so delighted that you
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don't chose to join us today on this
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special edition of the little white lie
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we have a very special guest and we are
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actually starting this all over again
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you know modern technology is what it's
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all about we're going to be tackling the
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question about music and is it the
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universal language and so I'm going to
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go ahead and introduce our guests
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because I'm just beyond excited that
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he's here I'm gonna bring up this date
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cause is a world-renowned multi Grammy
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Award nominee as a saxophonist this guy
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is awesome besides being an old friend
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he is an amazing musician and who better
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to bring on a show when we talk about
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music but Dave cause so without further
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ado let's bring them into the show hey
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Dave how you doing Karen I'm doing great
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thank you very much for having me on
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your show well I'm just thrilled that
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you're here we had a little bit of a
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glitch in the beginning so I'm glad that
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we're able to get us all back on and I'd
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like to start the show by asking you
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Dave what is your little white lie okay
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well clean on this one my little white
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lie is actually a white lie and that is
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yes my white hair I have been feigning
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being a dark haired person for a very
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long time I probably went started to go
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gray in my 20s my mom was prematurely
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gray and I have been covering it up for
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25 years I'm now 55 last year 2017 I
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finally decided to to bite the bullet
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and see what happened and since that
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time it has been absolutely an
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incredible experience and once again
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proving the power of authenticity oh I
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so agree
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you know I saw you for the first time in
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a very long time about a year and a half
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ago and I remember sitting in the
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audience at at Uptown Theater in Napa
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and taking might like this to my husband
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going look he looks like me and I look
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like him because you were now obviously
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white and I remember about halfway
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through the show you just stopped and
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you said let's talk about the elephant
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in the room and I just laughed because
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truly it has been I know from me people
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walk up to me all the time and say oh my
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gosh your hair looks amazing I think
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you've had the same experience right
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well I mean thing is I was so petrified
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about it and we set up these fears these
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irrational fears for ourselves that
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sometimes they we make them into these
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mountains that you can't even possibly
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scale and then you finally say okay I'm
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ready to climb them out and you get to
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the other side you realize there's no
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mountain at all and that's exactly the
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way it was for me I grew my hair out I
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think it was maybe around January
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February of 2017 I was working with this
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cut the guy who cuts my hair for many
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years and colors it he held my hand and
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we didn't at a time and I think men are
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much more kind of crazy about their hair
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than women are I believe it or not maybe
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not but there is a double standard I
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will tell you that because most most the
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time men get if they have white hair
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they get the distinguished or you look
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so distinguished women right you know
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and I say bravo to you for for doing it
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yourself because you look fantastic and
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we were talking before about your mom
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who I know very well for many years and
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she's a beautiful white haired woman
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yeah but it was the first thing that
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happened in my career was I hosted a
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cruise I've been doing this for many
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years but that was my first public
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appearance as a great person and so here
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is a sold-out cruise with 2,000 people
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the first day before there was the big
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kickoff where I was welcoming everybody
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I could walk around nobody recognized me
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all these people have been fans of mine
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for 20 years and nobody recognizes me
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with the gray hair was like wow this is
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awesome and then finally when I came out
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there I said a few things I said you
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know I just want you to know that this
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is the real me I feel very good
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some and that people have been so nice
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and come up and said compliments and I
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was out eating dinner and people would
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come up to me that I didn't even know
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and say I love your hair so honestly it
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was one of those great lessons life
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lessons that comes around every once in
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a while that is a great shot in the arm
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that you're on the right path and and
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again that magic word of authenticity
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really firmly stepping into your shoes
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that you were given and every time that
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I've done that in my past including this
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time it's been rewarded in ways that I
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can't even explain III agree I mean Joey
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Garrity says the power of authenticity
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it is so so true I found myself in the
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same spot I mean I sat in front of a
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camera for years talking about being
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authentic and yet what I saw in the
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mirror was not what I was portraying out
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there right so we did this right on
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camera so coming out for you was pretty
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ok is what you're saying yeah this was
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actually my second coming in I came out
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first at age 40 as gay that was my first
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coming out and then coming out as gray
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the second time was actually I was even
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probably a little bit more freaked out
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about that than I was about the gay
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thing but that was interesting too
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there's there is a connection between
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the two both are about truly being who
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you are
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okay when I did come out at 40 that's 15
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years ago that was a very different
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world than it is today there was not a
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lot of people that were coming out back
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then and so I was concerned legitimately
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that my career would be over
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for whatever reason not only did that
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not happen but everything improved and
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it's not like anybody even cares it's
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just a blip on the screen but what
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changed was me inside and being able to
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be a whole person and being able to show
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up as truly who I was there's that
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really it was such a sense of
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empowerment to be able to show up fully
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in my life it was like the first time at
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age 40 really being a whole person not
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being two halves of a person what a
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wonderful message here it's dating right
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now because it's about being vulnerable
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right it's about showing up exactly how
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you are and I think
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resonates with people but we all have
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these things I mentioned before the
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irrational fears that we create whatever
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it might be we all have them and it's
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very personal
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everybody's going through their their
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stuff and it's incumbent upon ourselves
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to recognize when the time is right for
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us to scale that mountain and but every
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time I mean I've talked about this with
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so many other people with a vast a wide
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range of issues and problems the same
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thing as always it's across the board
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you face your fears you get on the other
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side of it and realize I was wrong this
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thing out of proportion
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isn't that funny I mean I I and I so
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understand what you're saying you know
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so today's topic we're talking about
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music and as I said who better than you
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to talk about music you are probably the
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most amazing musician that I have
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personally ever met you know and I've
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watched you play your brother well I
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won't tell that to my brother I think I
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actually have told that to my brother
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and he was probably a great day totally
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agree so the question that I want to ask
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is is music the universal language I've
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always said that it is because I think
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that it speaks to those who might not
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otherwise hear the words understand what
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it is and when you hear music it just
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it's the emotion oh my goodness look
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guys we've got the sax out here are you
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going to play a little bit for us I can
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oh my god saxophone and I play an
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instrument obviously it's you can't hear
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words when I play and therefore even
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it's even more so for someone who's an
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instrumentalist that music transcends
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all barriers language barriers I've been
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all over the world I feel so blessed
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that I have been able to have a career
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and a job that has taken me to the
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farthest regions I've been all over
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China playing my music I've been to
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South Africa I've been all over Europe
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I've been to all over Asia the crazy you
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know bang cockin
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and Kuala Lumpur and Jakarta Indonesia
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and stepping the plane and going to a
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venue in a four
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country and somebody showing up that
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knows my music it's it's an amazing
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experience it's very difficult to put
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that experience into words but I do
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think that what you're the the theme of
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your show is incredibly accurate and
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maybe more so now forget about all the
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sides of the political fence and what's
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going on in the world right now music is
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and our business - I'm going all over
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the place I'm sorry but our business is
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trying to figure itself out the music
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business like every business has been
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turned out on its head but even though
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the business is still working itself out
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I think that the power of music to be
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able to comfort us especially in times
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of great strife and tumult and where
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we're at right now I think that music
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has become even more important than it
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ever has been to just provide the
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antidote to all the craziness that's
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around us oh so true and since you are
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holding the sax I'm gonna put you on
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solo if you would just just give us a
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few of those just the notes that you're
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gonna play with melodious notes all
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right here we go thank you thank you
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thank you thank you I know what a treat
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for for our viewers and our listeners to
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hear you play live just like this just
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off the cuff for us I really really
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appreciate it you know one of the things
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that people always ask me to ask my
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guess is why do you do what you do what
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is your wife or doing your music um it's
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a great question it's infinitely
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inspiring for me because it always
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changes I don't have a desk job I've
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never had an actual real job Erin my our
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life and if I did which maybe I went
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back
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I was in high school I think I had a job
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for a day and it was fired after the
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first full day because I just oh no
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era mentally and maybe my body was there
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but I wasn't there mentally in with my
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spirit and that's that's the gift of
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music that it's been for me I picked up
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the saxophone when I was 13
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that was after playing a couple of other
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instruments really badly and the
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saxophone came to me at a time when I
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needed a best friend and someone to talk
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to and I couldn't necessarily put into
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words what I was feeling inside and the
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saxophone was that vehicle it just it
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was there for me always and then but I
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never really planned on that being my my
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life and career but there were other
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people along the sidelines of my life
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that became those very very important
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people that said no this is something
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that you need to do you need to be able
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to to play this instrument and and they
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nurtured me and gave me opportunities
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that gave me a career so I'm very
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grateful to those people my brother is
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one of them a guy named Jeff Lorber is
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another one Bobby Caldwell Bruce
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Lundvall who signed me to my first
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record deal at Capitol Records and so
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it's been like a train ride since the
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train left the building when I years old
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it just been constant and non-stop and
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so entertaining so that's really the why
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is just I've never done anything else
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and I love what I do
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yeah I get it I totally get it you know
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I'm putting some of your album covers I
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do we call them album Stoller they CD
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covers what do we call them now see and
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I had to put one up just so that people
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see you when you had dark hair right and
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I have to agree you look awesome
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in your white gray silver thing going on
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over there
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you know you have a lot of different CDs
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going on and I want to make sure that
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people know that they can go pick up
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your CDs just go over to the boomer
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lifestyle comm by the way that's our new
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super boomer store that you can pick up
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all of Dave CDs and also Dave I know
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that you do a yearly cruise in fact I
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know you sell them out you do two
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back-to-back that's how popular you are
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and I think you're already sold out for
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next year are you
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our next Cruise is in 2019 March
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March 24th of 2019 and that goes for two
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one-week cruises and both are sold out
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it starts and ends in Sydney Australia
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and we go armed our mantra our mission
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is seeing the world together through
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music so your theme today very much
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plays into that whole concept which is
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okay if you go on a cruise if it's not a
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themed cruise you put you get yourself
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on the ship and you're with a bunch of
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strangers now you are still with a bunch
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of people that you don't know on our
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cruises necessarily but you're bound by
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your shared love of the music and
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therefore when you put when you step
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foot on those cruise ships you're not
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among strangers so you can talk to
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anybody and we've seen these friendships
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develop over the last 12 years that
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we've been doing it people come on these
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it's like a trap a musical Travel Club
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seeing the world together through music
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and my understanding is they love it so
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much that by the time they're they're
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getting ready to disembark from the
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cruise they've already signed up for the
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following year which is why people like
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me that didn't get in in the beginning
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can't even sign up maybe you guys should
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be doing a third cruise just putting it
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out there just in case well we shall see
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amazing you're the boomer lifestyle
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cruise I maybe I could and would you
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come play on it if we did that us of
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course you were of course of course
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so I want to put some some things up so
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people know how to follow you they can
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go on to your website Dave Koz calm they
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can follow you on Instagram at David
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Stephen cause or they can follow you on
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twitter act Dave cause music we got them
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all up there and so I what message would
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you like to to impart upon our viewers
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about music and about how we can all
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internalize this and make our life maybe
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just a little better well that's a
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really great question and I'm gonna go
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with the first thing that popped into my
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head which is about instrumental music
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because I'm an instrumentalists I mean I
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have some but not very well and I think
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that instrumental music is now we have
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access to every piece
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music pretty much of all time at the on
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your phone you can put up Spotify or
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Apple music and one of my favorite
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things to do with my friends is all have
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our phones we're all in a room and we
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play this sort of musical one-upsmanship
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so somebody will say well do you
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remember this song from Steely Dan from
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1982 and then they'll play that and then
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that will spark a memory from somebody
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else and say well what about this and
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you know what inspired that piece of
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music for that artist was this piece of
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music and it's like the you play this
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sort of musical geography with friends
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just it's a very important thing that we
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don't lose sight of that that how much
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music inspires us on a daily basis just
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for example if you could just put your
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put your head into the space of a day on
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this planet without music
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even if you don't turn on your own
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stereo or listen to your iPod or your
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have music coming out of your computer
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speakers just when you go out into the
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world if you could imagine what the
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world would be like without music as an
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accompaniment it would be a very lonely
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and it would sound a lot different and
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it wouldn't all the feelings that we
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feel naturally that we don't even know
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and we don't even notice are brought to
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us through music and through the the
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sonic landscape that we that we enter at
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all times so I think music has become it
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over the last many years kind of
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devalued you see it with the where
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record stores it used to be that you
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know your boomer lifestyle
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well boomers used to go to the Tower
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Records or house or you know the the
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multitude of record stores around the
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country to find out about the newest
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releases it was a it was a very social
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thing and over the last say 10 to 15
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years music has become quite devalued
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you don't you can't go and buy it
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somewhere you can't go to a store and
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talk about it and walk the aisles and be
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turned on to new music that you wouldn't
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be normally turned on to so my message
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to you and to your viewers is to never
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forget how important music has been and
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we'll be - just life and it's like as
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important is breathing and drinking you
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know we have to have it to inspire us uh
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so so important what you're saying
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before I let you go and drop you into
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the green room I have one last question
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to ask you and what is something that
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people don't know about you Wow okay
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well I've already come out twice here on
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this one point it's something about
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crossword puzzles oh yes I do my dad
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used to my parents who died rather young
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in their in their lives my dad was 68
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and he left me with two very unusual
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passions that were passions of his that
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I didn't share when he was alive was a
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strange thing because he used to do
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crossword puzzles his two favorite
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things were crossword puzzles and opera
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and I used to give him such crap about
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that I was like dad I don't understand
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why he listened to this music it just
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doesn't make sense to me and why are you
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doing this crossword puzzles and he
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passed away he was 68 years old it was
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20 years ago and it was almost as if
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almost to the day that he died that my
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interest in opera and my interest in
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crossword puzzles was born and now
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pretty much as a way to just get my mind
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off of things if I just need a break or
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to go to sleep at night or sitting on a
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plane crosswords are my thing and that
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doesn't surprise me not not necessary
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the crossword part but the fact that
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when he passed that that those are the
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things that almost immediately you
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started to gravitate to and that's
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because that's the string that's the
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connector that is something that holds
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your father close to you and that that
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that is that speaks volumes to who you
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are and it speaks volumes to who your
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family unit is and was so I applaud you
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for that and I want to thank you because
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I know I I know when putting the show
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together we were working around your
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schedule and so first of all I want to
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thank you for taking time out of I know
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you're incredibly busy schedule and then
19:47
having some technology difficulties you
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hung in there with me I want to thank
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you for for showing up and for showing
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up for our viewers for the bottom of my
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heart truly I am blessed so thank you so
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much and we will be in touch afterwards
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to talk about all those other things
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that
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talking about I'm gonna drop you into
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the green room as I get ready to close
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out the show and again thank you thank
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you thank you it's my pleasure and thank
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you very much to all your fans - thanks
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so is he awesome or what I mean he
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really is awesome and this is now time
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for the super boomer moment this is the
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the point that I want to share with you
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something that I took out of the
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interview that it's - gonna stay with me
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for a very long time
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you know I have to say that for Dave to
20:32
be as vulnerable as he was and to come
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up and talk about his two coming outs
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which which you know not everybody would
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do I want to thank you Dave for doing
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that you show me and you show us and all
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of us how powerful it is to show up in
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our authentic self and to show up in
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front of people and just say you know
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what this is who I am
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I love that that is how I live my life
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so I want to thank Dave for again
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telling us that that is the way we what
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we really should be doing so I really
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really appreciate that in the meantime I
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want to remind you that we have Dave CDs
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sitting in the super boomer lifestyle
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comm it's brand-new we just launched it
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just launched it this morning so go
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ahead and check it out go go purchase
21:19
some of Dave CDs and then let us know
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how you're enjoying it and how it is
21:23
changing your life to listen to his
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melodious notes that he plays on that
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sax and if you're so fortunate to be
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able to go on that cruise get yourself
21:32
on that waiting list or maybe we'll do a
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Bloomberg lifestyle cruise I kind of
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like that idea maybe we'll do that and
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we'll get Dave to come along with us we
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want to thank all of you for spending
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time with us today we know that you have
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a choice as to where you spend your time
21:44
and you decided to spend it with Dave
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and I today so we thank you go out and
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give somebody an awesome day and we'll
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see you next time on the next episode of
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the little white lie goodbye everyone
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