The Power of Live Broadcasting with Belive.TV
On today's show Caren talks about the power of Live Broadcasting with the brains behind Belive.TV.
The CEO, Daniel Mayer has worked as a Product manager since 2009. He co-founded 3 Startups and 1 exit and loves to Snowboard.
CTO Tzafrir Rehan previously worked at Google, has been a Social Media enthusiast since 2006, Multiplayer Gamer, experienced in creating and managing communities and a musician at heart.
Some of the things we talk about:
1. When their journey began
2. The story behind how they built their first live broadcasting product (AweVid)
3. How they are pivoting to Facebook Live as BeLive
4. Updates!
Go and create your first broadcast through BeLive! https://belive.tv. There are currently 2 formats in public beta to choose from: Q&A (you are on camera alone) and Face to Face (invite a guest to join you)
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hello everyone Karen Glasser and this is
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the passion point this is the show where
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we follow fashionistas from all around
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the world who are following their
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passions making a living doing what they
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love and today I can't even begin to
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tell you how excited I am to have these
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two gifts on the show they are the
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brains behind be live dot TV that's B e
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Li ve let's let's just put this up here
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because I can be live dot TV I am just
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we've been yakking before the show and
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I'm going to introduce them right now
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and will continue to yack the CEO of the
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company is Daniel Mayer and he has
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worked as a project manager since 2009
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he has co-founded three startups and he
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also likes to snowboard just in case you
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were wondering
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and our CTO is suffering rayon and he
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previously worked at Google he has been
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a social media enthusiast since 2006 and
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he's the musician at heart I love that
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and love music myself I want to welcome
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you guys to the show Daniel and sufferer
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join us at the passion point how are you
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today guys thank you hello Rick familiar
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we're just delighted that you're here
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and I have been talking about you guys
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and about be live TV for as long as you
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guys have been around in terms of this
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particular platform and we always like
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to start our show with the definition of
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passion and so today we're going to talk
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about passion in terms of Webster's
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dictionary Webster says that passion is
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an intense driving or overmastering
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feeling or conviction
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what do you guys say what is passion
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mean to you I think for independence
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it's like I'm a Festool I'm basically
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followed by actually it's the only
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things to eat we have on the first steps
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each company and it's it's like the only
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thing that you have it's the passion in
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with this passion you need to bring all
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the other stuff into into the company to
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start up into your life and separate
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definitely agreed because a lot of the
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time at the early stages of the startup
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and layer Daniel hotel about what we
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went through on the way to be live a lot
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of the time everything you have is the
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only passion and that would keep
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spoiling every day getting up coming to
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work doing that doing the routine again
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sometimes succeeding sometimes not
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succeeding and coming back with your
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head full yeah you know what I kind of
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like calling it failing your way to
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success right because if you don't if
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you don't have all the different
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failures you don't know what you need to
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either improve on or move forward so I
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think it's a good thing I totally think
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it's a good thing let's talk about your
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story where did you guys meet how did
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you guys connect so we actually met what
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what was it like twenty something years
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ago maybe twenty two years ago at the
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fourth grade so we've been friends
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really since a very early age and we've
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been in their scouts together and later
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life also brought us to be in the Army
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together we spent boot camp indistinct
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tent one bed next to each other so that
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life really took us on this long way
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that later we managed to take that
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friendship and turn it into a
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partnership and run this business
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together so I know that you started with
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your first live broadcasting product
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called Ovid what was that about
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so of it was all about crowdsourcing
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mutti mutti crowd live broadcasting
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platform it's a lot of people joined
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together and to one broadcast and then a
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producer is managing the broadcast
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network is it still around yeah it's
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still up still there
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we are not like I'm supporting it
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anymore and we would support out of it
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for one and a half year and and what I
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can share with you it's all we made all
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the broadcast our users made you know it
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in one enough here we
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during today and a half of day every
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half of day in live we are doing the
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same amount of vodcast
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we did in one and half year with that of
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it so just to compare those two products
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Wow okay so what do you attribute that
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to why do you think that is well of it
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was a bit ahead of its time the idea was
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that when there are outdoor events going
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out like concerts or newsworthy events
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then people put crowdsource
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and work together to broadcast it so it
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really worked great we created a really
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amazing product that that really works
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and does that and creates wonderful
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documentation of events but it was
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extremely hard to to explain to people
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why they should use it and to find the
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person that has the the willpower to
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make it happen like collecting together
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and to arrange everyone it's like the
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number one thing that we learned that if
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you have something really great it still
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has to be also really simple to use and
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really simple to get started with
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otherwise it's just you and your great
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thing and it's really hard to get people
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to use it well you know it's funny we
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were talking about that even before the
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show started and one of the things that
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I totally love about the live TV is the
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ease-of-use there is no barrier to entry
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almost almost anyone can do this if they
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can click and type a title and just go
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live so tell us about you you made the
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the I guess the path went from Ovid and
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then you went straight in to be live TV
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yeah yeah that's true so on when we work
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on that when we recognize that the
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reason a big potential for what's going
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on with the Facebook life and we saw on
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the amount of broadcast and the amount
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of users using it and then we realized
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we had a great platform for live
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broadcasting we of course me down to
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change it and to modify it to the
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specific use cases they're looking to
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ever with be live and that's what we did
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it took us something like a month I'm
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working and developing them the first
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product be live the Q&A format then it's
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much more easier and you know you don't
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have any any kind of things that
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suffering is mentioned before and when
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you want to create a broadcast with Ovid
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you need a producer you need a lot of
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people you need all those things and
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with be live QA you just need to be
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yourself in your computer to clicks in
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your on there
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you're alive you can broadcast no matter
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to whom wherever you want whenever you
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want and then it's just the magic of
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simplicity and making a good product so
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let's talk a little bit about the
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product
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bee-lieve allows you to do what we're
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doing right now right where do i I'm on
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a camera you're on a camera you're
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sitting in Israel I'm sitting in Napa
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California and yet we are look like
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we're sitting together in in one shape
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or form which is really great I mean
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it's a great way to reach your target
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audience a great way to interact and you
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were saying to me earlier that that
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really is the intent of this is to
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create that interaction create that
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conversation can you talk a little bit
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about that sure um the I think the term
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the first tool of engaging your
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community is I'm taking them we need you
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to the generally and the first product
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that we launched the QA giving you the
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option allow you to show the comments
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and your community your followers gave
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you and when we as a humans see
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ourselves on a broadcast see our picture
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and what we wrote it give us a
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recognition and we love the cognition
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everybody loved the recognition
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everybody loved to see themselves and to
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things that time someone is care about
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what they have just read them so that
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was the first step the unit second step
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was taking some parts of your community
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into the workers what we are doing right
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now you know you send us just a link
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again two clicks and we are with you in
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this broadcast and of course there is a
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long journey and form here and a lot of
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other stuff things that that after you
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can can help me when mention and the
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next steps that there
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we'll try and we are doing those days
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but let's not go to the updates yet
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though let's not go to the updates I
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want to keep that to the end okay I want
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to really keep people good but it's also
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important to say like when we looked at
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Facebook live and what people are doing
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with it and how people are finding
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success one of the major things that we
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recognized was that when you just like
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you have a lecture and you put it on it
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doesn't really work if you're not there
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to interact that's not what people are
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there for because people on Facebook are
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not like hey I have a spare hour I want
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to lean back and watch this guy give a
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lecture they're like in the moment I'm
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here i'm social be with me let's talk
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together and when you feel that you let
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the community explode and all the
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features that we give are revolving
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around that there are letting the
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community take part of the broadcast
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feel like they're creating something
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together and really create something
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together that that's like the most basic
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enjoyment and needs of people come from
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doing things together and reaching the
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full potential of the community and
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everything that we make is for letting
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that happen so how did how did you
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decide well at the time we were working
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on this on off it which was a live
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streaming product and if you follow the
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tan lines and you like piece the pieces
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together when we started of it there was
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no live streaming
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definitely not from Oba it was a market
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consensus that this is a dead market
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live streaming is dead
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everything was tried and the technology
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was all there in like 2008 2009 I
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personally I live broadcasted shows from
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a Nokia one of the first 3G devices I
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was already on quick live broadcasting
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it was immediately sent out to my
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facebook my Twitter my it was think rise
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to YouTube the technology was there so
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it was never a technological problem so
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we came at it
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from the social solution that you work
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together and while we were working and
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proving ourselves and doing our first
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steps in the startup world
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what happened around us was that Twitter
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came up with their social live video
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platform mm-hmm meerkat came up and
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since also and Facebook live came in
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with full force and when we say full
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force we mean they gave crazy
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distribution to videos so Facebook
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Claire was the first to not only give
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people incentives to broadcast but also
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they figure out the part of watching
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because we're broadcasting as we want
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people to watch and Facebook is the
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first place the first video platform
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that not only brings you to people that
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care about live videos they bring your
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video to people that care about you and
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they never saw a live video until that
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moment and they saw this interesting
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engaging video in your stream and they
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engaged with it right that's something
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that we realize that Facebook really
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cracked and it became exponentially hard
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to compete with that so we realized hey
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this platform is gonna win wherever we
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fight it or not be it's not worth the
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fight
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so we realized that if we take our
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technology which is extremely flexible
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right now we're really not using it to
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its full extent at all so we decided
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what if we take this wonderful flexible
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technology and create engagement with it
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so that at that point things just we can
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begin moving one attraction it's it's
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interesting one of the things that I
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notice is that we're you you don't
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always have to rely on the people coming
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immediately and watching you live
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because this stuff stays forever it's
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evergreen and for those of you who are
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watching and saying you know oh I think
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I might want to try this now
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realize that when you put a video
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product in video assets out there we
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know that the attention span of people
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out there if there's a video out there
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they're going to watch it maybe two and
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a half minutes static text maybe less
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than ten seconds and so video is where
13:29
it's out live video is completely where
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it's out because it will live forever
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and I know personally when I do these
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lives no matter how many people I had on
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in the beginning it grows exponentially
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I mean as the week's go on because
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people will come back and watch her or I
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will download the video and I will use
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it as part of a blog post or I will
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repurpose it do you guys are the
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proponents of that of repurposing the
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content that we're creating with these
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lives that's definitely something that
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we're looking at because we see we're
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always looking at what our users are
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doing that's like our number one source
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of information right thank you we have
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our guesses then we look at what people
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are doing and our guesses are not always
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correct and usually not correct and then
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we we see okay so this is their the new
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reality and we're seeing that people
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really do a lot of that downloading the
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video and uploading it to other places
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of where they also have communities that
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they want to engage and that's perfect
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that's what we're here to enable so
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we're definitely looking at that and
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considering it when we'll think of
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future features so one of the things
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that you have that has up the game with
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Facebook is that what we're doing right
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now because on Facebook if you're using
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Facebook why what are you doing you pick
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up your phone right and you either put
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it on a tripod or you stand there like
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this so you turn it around and it's just
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you the fact that you can have more than
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one person on with you really ups the
15:06
game at least in my opinion it really
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ups the game is there is there anything
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on the horizon that's going to be more
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than just two cameras are we going to be
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seeing some other things coming from you
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guys like what oh maybe three cameras or
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four cameras I don't know maybe four
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maybe me
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okay you guys are now teasing I'm good
15:29
so tell us what's coming up what what is
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coming up with me life okay so we have a
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new format and you broadcasting format
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in the oven and we like to cook to build
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to structure the broadcast in formats so
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you can how you create a Q&A one two
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three it's you comments are coming
15:52
showing them on the screen answer
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questions you currently use the
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interview format where it's where two
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faces from this side but basically it's
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two cameras talking to each other so the
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next format we don't have a final name
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for it yet but it will be a more
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advanced format that will be people that
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are already have some experience in
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using our systems and/or other systems
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that do live broadcasting and I want to
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go the next step to maybe bring more
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people into the broadcast to maybe
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switch between angles in a different way
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we still don't have it finalized but we
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did have an early early early adopter
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use it and it was a broadcast that was
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four hours from around the world and
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multiple guests came in and out during
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the broadcast and that's something we
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can already hint to that will that
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formant will have the ability to control
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on which guests coming to the broadcast
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at which time so you can have like you
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will be able to have guests many guests
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joining ahead of time and like
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introducing them into the broadcast in
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and out over time I know I'm not telling
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much I may be over teasing here I'm
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excited I'm or you might they be telling
17:35
not a lot but I get it and that
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is freakin awesome we actually tried to
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hack your system a couple of weeks ago
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by having people come in on the link and
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then going and then have somebody else
17:46
click on the link and coming in so we
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did kind of play with that a little bit
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but oh my gosh guys if you're listening
17:51
to this you need to be listening to this
17:53
this is going to be monster monster
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monster monster
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so I want I would love for you to talk a
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little bit about I mean you're obviously
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following your passion you talked about
18:04
the failures that you needed in order to
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move forward what would you tell
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somebody that came to you that says you
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know I've lost my job or I've been laid
18:13
off or I've been I can't find a job I
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think I've lost my passion I don't even
18:17
know what to do what would you tell them
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how to find their passion or how to
18:21
follow a dream you have any wise words
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to share with our viewers that might be
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in that boat right now
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so fashion it's a big world I mean when
18:31
people known about the unpatient
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it's it's high level of fun of knowing
18:36
yourself and the first thing it's to
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know yourself and to know what's what is
18:42
the points of passion in yourself and
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what passionate you I'm waking in the
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morning they're going doing guy your
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work job and then going to your life
18:52
routine and back so first thing is
18:54
better understanding what are my
18:56
passions I have a lot of people that
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come familiar with they don't know what
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is the passion of their life is it they
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have a job they have a family is
19:05
everything but when you are asking them
19:07
what is the patient or what you're
19:09
looking to have what is the purpose
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they don't have answers they don't know
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what their life to do it's not just a
19:15
passion I've asked you know do you have
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any hobbies there have any things that
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you like to do they run I've answer to
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that so the first thing is better
19:23
understand what is your passion when you
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understand it Lily understands if there
19:28
is no connection between passion to
19:31
money it's not like there is a patient
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to money but there is a patient to money
19:38
you can do all the stuff I mean lot lot
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of stuff without any connection to if
19:45
you have a lot lot of money or or not
19:48
and basically I think that
19:51
all the small things of life and bring
19:53
us the happiness and and the passion as
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for me to be in Turpan or to change
20:03
things to to see the things from the
20:07
other end oh I mean to see that there is
20:09
an issue there full of lemon to came
20:13
with an idea to how to solve it or what
20:16
we are looking to do here and it's the
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greatest things that we can have I mean
20:21
if if am people a person can can see
20:26
himself like don't have anything else
20:28
and just his passion he can surely know
20:31
he's fine his passion so the basic rule
20:34
is if you can just be with your patient
20:37
I mean with anything else you find it
20:41
that's a that's a great way to explain
20:43
it I really appreciate that one of my
20:45
favorite quotes is and I don't have a
20:47
it's anonymous I don't know who wrote
20:49
this is purpose is the reason you
20:52
journey passion is the fire that lights
20:55
the way you agree with that
20:58
that sounds very correct yeah do you
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have any quotes that you guys like
21:02
anything that you live by
21:03
or do you prefer close that's all that's
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all that's that's that's fine that's
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absolutely fine so let's talk about how
21:18
people to get involved now how can
21:20
people sign up and become a part of be
21:23
live TV I'm putting up the link up there
21:26
so what will happen when they go to WWE
21:30
live TV what will happen they're gonna
21:32
click on it and then they're gonna do
21:35
does it is there any fee for this right
21:37
now well right now as soon as they come
21:40
into the site first of all you'll see a
21:42
bit about what we're doing why we're
21:44
doing it and how they can benefit from
21:45
it so hopefully if they're not fully
21:49
convinced that they have to use V live
21:51
that will help them go to the next step
21:53
on the middle there's a very big
21:56
inviting button that says get started
21:59
and you just tell us a little bit about
22:02
yourself let us know
22:04
what you're gonna broadcast what's going
22:06
on and we'll you'll pretty soon get a
22:09
message back that help you get started
22:11
so sometimes we'll also reach back to
22:15
you and and give you a little bit of
22:16
help if you couldn't figure it out on
22:18
your own but it's very simple because
22:21
you get an email or a facebook messenger
22:25
message with just ways to get started
22:28
immediately so with two clicks after
22:30
filling the guest star in form you
22:33
should be able to already have a
22:34
broadcast running and you also have our
22:38
contact by that time so you know how to
22:40
reach out to us with any further
22:41
questions we we sometimes take a few
22:46
hours to get back to people but we we do
22:49
work hard to get back to everyone make
22:52
sure that everyone has their needs
22:53
fulfilled and if you'll have something
22:56
to broadcast we want to be there to help
22:58
you broadcast it you know I want it I
23:01
want to address that for everyone out
23:04
there that knows me and then I I try
23:05
everything and I have to tell you guys
23:08
you have the best support in in that
23:11
I've ever seen when I first started
23:14
using this affair you know this I
23:15
emailed you almost immediately and I was
23:18
having a particular issue and my god
23:21
I have never seen anything like this you
23:22
you responded almost immediately and we
23:24
ended that's how we met and this is how
23:26
we went back and forth and then I met
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Daniel and we went back and forth you
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listened to the concerns I had and you
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either were able to help me fix it and
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or you actually tweaked your own project
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and it has nothing to do with me it's
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who you guys are and that is something
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that really created the energy behind me
23:45
wanting to bring you onto the show here
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today because when we are in technology
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this stuff isn't going away guys
23:51
technology is not going away you're
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going to have to either just suck it up
23:56
and jump in the water is fine or you're
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gonna close your eyes and have blinders
24:00
on and the world is going to pass you by
24:02
so why not enjoy doing it why not get
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involved with the company that is going
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to help you that is going to be there
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with you and support you and I'm not
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saying this because I'm getting paid for
24:11
this because I'm not I'm saying this
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because I personally have experienced
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your support your response and your
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ability to create a product that I think
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is already lighting the world on fire
24:23
and I can't wait to see what else is
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coming from you guys any last thoughts
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you want to share with our audience
24:29
before we say goodbye little patient
24:36
follow your fashion okay I want to thank
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everyone for being with us today because
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we know that you have a choice as to
24:42
where you spend your time and I want to
24:44
thank you from the bottom of my heart
24:45
that you chose to spend it with us today
24:47
on the passion point for those of you
24:50
would like to see some past shows go
24:52
ahead and go visit the passion point.com
24:55
and you'll see all these shows I'm going
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to be taking this show that we recorded
24:59
live I'm going to be actually
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downloading it and uploading it into a
25:04
blog post with transcripts from what we
25:06
talked about today and I hope that you
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will join us next time on the next
25:11
episode of the passion point have a
25:14
great day everyone and a great evening
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you guys bye-bye everybody
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