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hello everyone Karen Glasser and this is
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the passion point this is the show where
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we follow fashionistas from all around
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the world who are following their
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passions making a living doing what they
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love and today I can't even begin to
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tell you how excited I am to have these
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two gifts on the show they are the
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brains behind be live dot TV that's B e
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Li ve let's let's just put this up here
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because I can be live dot TV I am just
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we've been yakking before the show and
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I'm going to introduce them right now
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and will continue to yack the CEO of the
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company is Daniel Mayer and he has
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worked as a project manager since 2009
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he has co-founded three startups and he
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also likes to snowboard just in case you
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and our CTO is suffering rayon and he
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previously worked at Google he has been
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a social media enthusiast since 2006 and
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he's the musician at heart I love that
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and love music myself I want to welcome
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you guys to the show Daniel and sufferer
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join us at the passion point how are you
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today guys thank you hello Rick familiar
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we're just delighted that you're here
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and I have been talking about you guys
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and about be live TV for as long as you
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guys have been around in terms of this
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particular platform and we always like
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to start our show with the definition of
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passion and so today we're going to talk
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about passion in terms of Webster's
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dictionary Webster says that passion is
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an intense driving or overmastering
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feeling or conviction
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what do you guys say what is passion
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mean to you I think for independence
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it's like I'm a Festool I'm basically
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followed by actually it's the only
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things to eat we have on the first steps
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each company and it's it's like the only
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thing that you have it's the passion in
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with this passion you need to bring all
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the other stuff into into the company to
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start up into your life and separate
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definitely agreed because a lot of the
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time at the early stages of the startup
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and layer Daniel hotel about what we
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went through on the way to be live a lot
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of the time everything you have is the
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only passion and that would keep
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spoiling every day getting up coming to
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work doing that doing the routine again
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sometimes succeeding sometimes not
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succeeding and coming back with your
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head full yeah you know what I kind of
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like calling it failing your way to
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success right because if you don't if
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you don't have all the different
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failures you don't know what you need to
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either improve on or move forward so I
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think it's a good thing I totally think
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it's a good thing let's talk about your
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story where did you guys meet how did
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you guys connect so we actually met what
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what was it like twenty something years
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ago maybe twenty two years ago at the
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fourth grade so we've been friends
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really since a very early age and we've
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been in their scouts together and later
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life also brought us to be in the Army
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together we spent boot camp indistinct
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tent one bed next to each other so that
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life really took us on this long way
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that later we managed to take that
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friendship and turn it into a
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partnership and run this business
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together so I know that you started with
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your first live broadcasting product
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called Ovid what was that about
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so of it was all about crowdsourcing
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mutti mutti crowd live broadcasting
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platform it's a lot of people joined
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together and to one broadcast and then a
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producer is managing the broadcast
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network is it still around yeah it's
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we are not like I'm supporting it
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anymore and we would support out of it
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for one and a half year and and what I
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can share with you it's all we made all
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the broadcast our users made you know it
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in one enough here we
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during today and a half of day every
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half of day in live we are doing the
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same amount of vodcast
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we did in one and half year with that of
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it so just to compare those two products
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Wow okay so what do you attribute that
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to why do you think that is well of it
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was a bit ahead of its time the idea was
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that when there are outdoor events going
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out like concerts or newsworthy events
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then people put crowdsource
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and work together to broadcast it so it
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really worked great we created a really
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amazing product that that really works
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and does that and creates wonderful
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documentation of events but it was
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extremely hard to to explain to people
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why they should use it and to find the
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person that has the the willpower to
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make it happen like collecting together
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and to arrange everyone it's like the
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number one thing that we learned that if
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you have something really great it still
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has to be also really simple to use and
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really simple to get started with
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otherwise it's just you and your great
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thing and it's really hard to get people
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to use it well you know it's funny we
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were talking about that even before the
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show started and one of the things that
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I totally love about the live TV is the
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ease-of-use there is no barrier to entry
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almost almost anyone can do this if they
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can click and type a title and just go
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live so tell us about you you made the
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the I guess the path went from Ovid and
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then you went straight in to be live TV
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yeah yeah that's true so on when we work
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on that when we recognize that the
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reason a big potential for what's going
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on with the Facebook life and we saw on
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the amount of broadcast and the amount
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of users using it and then we realized
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we had a great platform for live
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broadcasting we of course me down to
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change it and to modify it to the
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specific use cases they're looking to
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ever with be live and that's what we did
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it took us something like a month I'm
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working and developing them the first
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product be live the Q&A format then it's
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much more easier and you know you don't
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have any any kind of things that
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suffering is mentioned before and when
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you want to create a broadcast with Ovid
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you need a producer you need a lot of
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people you need all those things and
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with be live QA you just need to be
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yourself in your computer to clicks in
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you're alive you can broadcast no matter
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to whom wherever you want whenever you
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want and then it's just the magic of
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simplicity and making a good product so
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let's talk a little bit about the
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bee-lieve allows you to do what we're
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doing right now right where do i I'm on
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a camera you're on a camera you're
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sitting in Israel I'm sitting in Napa
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California and yet we are look like
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we're sitting together in in one shape
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or form which is really great I mean
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it's a great way to reach your target
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audience a great way to interact and you
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were saying to me earlier that that
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really is the intent of this is to
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create that interaction create that
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conversation can you talk a little bit
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about that sure um the I think the term
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the first tool of engaging your
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community is I'm taking them we need you
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to the generally and the first product
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that we launched the QA giving you the
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option allow you to show the comments
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and your community your followers gave
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you and when we as a humans see
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ourselves on a broadcast see our picture
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and what we wrote it give us a
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recognition and we love the cognition
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everybody loved the recognition
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everybody loved to see themselves and to
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things that time someone is care about
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what they have just read them so that
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was the first step the unit second step
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was taking some parts of your community
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into the workers what we are doing right
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now you know you send us just a link
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again two clicks and we are with you in
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this broadcast and of course there is a
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long journey and form here and a lot of
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other stuff things that that after you
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can can help me when mention and the
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next steps that there
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we'll try and we are doing those days
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but let's not go to the updates yet
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though let's not go to the updates I
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want to keep that to the end okay I want
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to really keep people good but it's also
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important to say like when we looked at
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Facebook live and what people are doing
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with it and how people are finding
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success one of the major things that we
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recognized was that when you just like
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you have a lecture and you put it on it
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doesn't really work if you're not there
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to interact that's not what people are
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there for because people on Facebook are
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not like hey I have a spare hour I want
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to lean back and watch this guy give a
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lecture they're like in the moment I'm
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here i'm social be with me let's talk
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together and when you feel that you let
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the community explode and all the
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features that we give are revolving
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around that there are letting the
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community take part of the broadcast
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feel like they're creating something
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together and really create something
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together that that's like the most basic
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enjoyment and needs of people come from
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doing things together and reaching the
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full potential of the community and
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everything that we make is for letting
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that happen so how did how did you
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decide well at the time we were working
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on this on off it which was a live
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streaming product and if you follow the
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tan lines and you like piece the pieces
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together when we started of it there was
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definitely not from Oba it was a market
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consensus that this is a dead market
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live streaming is dead
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everything was tried and the technology
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was all there in like 2008 2009 I
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personally I live broadcasted shows from
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a Nokia one of the first 3G devices I
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was already on quick live broadcasting
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it was immediately sent out to my
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facebook my Twitter my it was think rise
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to YouTube the technology was there so
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it was never a technological problem so
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from the social solution that you work
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together and while we were working and
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proving ourselves and doing our first
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steps in the startup world
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what happened around us was that Twitter
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came up with their social live video
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platform mm-hmm meerkat came up and
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since also and Facebook live came in
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with full force and when we say full
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force we mean they gave crazy
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distribution to videos so Facebook
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Claire was the first to not only give
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people incentives to broadcast but also
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they figure out the part of watching
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because we're broadcasting as we want
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people to watch and Facebook is the
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first place the first video platform
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that not only brings you to people that
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care about live videos they bring your
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video to people that care about you and
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they never saw a live video until that
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moment and they saw this interesting
12:06
engaging video in your stream and they
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engaged with it right that's something
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that we realize that Facebook really
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cracked and it became exponentially hard
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to compete with that so we realized hey
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this platform is gonna win wherever we
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fight it or not be it's not worth the
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so we realized that if we take our
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technology which is extremely flexible
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right now we're really not using it to
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its full extent at all so we decided
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what if we take this wonderful flexible
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technology and create engagement with it
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so that at that point things just we can
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begin moving one attraction it's it's
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interesting one of the things that I
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notice is that we're you you don't
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always have to rely on the people coming
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immediately and watching you live
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because this stuff stays forever it's
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evergreen and for those of you who are
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watching and saying you know oh I think
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I might want to try this now
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realize that when you put a video
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product in video assets out there we
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know that the attention span of people
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out there if there's a video out there
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they're going to watch it maybe two and
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a half minutes static text maybe less
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than ten seconds and so video is where
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it's out live video is completely where
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it's out because it will live forever
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and I know personally when I do these
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lives no matter how many people I had on
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in the beginning it grows exponentially
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I mean as the week's go on because
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people will come back and watch her or I
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will download the video and I will use
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it as part of a blog post or I will
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repurpose it do you guys are the
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proponents of that of repurposing the
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content that we're creating with these
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lives that's definitely something that
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we're looking at because we see we're
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always looking at what our users are
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doing that's like our number one source
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of information right thank you we have
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our guesses then we look at what people
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are doing and our guesses are not always
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correct and usually not correct and then
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we we see okay so this is their the new
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reality and we're seeing that people
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really do a lot of that downloading the
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video and uploading it to other places
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of where they also have communities that
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they want to engage and that's perfect
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that's what we're here to enable so
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we're definitely looking at that and
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considering it when we'll think of
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future features so one of the things
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that you have that has up the game with
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Facebook is that what we're doing right
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now because on Facebook if you're using
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Facebook why what are you doing you pick
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up your phone right and you either put
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it on a tripod or you stand there like
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this so you turn it around and it's just
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you the fact that you can have more than
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one person on with you really ups the
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game at least in my opinion it really
15:09
ups the game is there is there anything
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on the horizon that's going to be more
15:14
than just two cameras are we going to be
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seeing some other things coming from you
15:17
guys like what oh maybe three cameras or
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four cameras I don't know maybe four
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okay you guys are now teasing I'm good
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so tell us what's coming up what what is
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coming up with me life okay so we have a
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new format and you broadcasting format
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in the oven and we like to cook to build
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to structure the broadcast in formats so
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you can how you create a Q&A one two
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three it's you comments are coming
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showing them on the screen answer
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questions you currently use the
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interview format where it's where two
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faces from this side but basically it's
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two cameras talking to each other so the
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next format we don't have a final name
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for it yet but it will be a more
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advanced format that will be people that
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are already have some experience in
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using our systems and/or other systems
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that do live broadcasting and I want to
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go the next step to maybe bring more
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people into the broadcast to maybe
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switch between angles in a different way
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we still don't have it finalized but we
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did have an early early early adopter
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use it and it was a broadcast that was
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four hours from around the world and
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multiple guests came in and out during
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the broadcast and that's something we
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can already hint to that will that
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formant will have the ability to control
17:08
on which guests coming to the broadcast
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at which time so you can have like you
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will be able to have guests many guests
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joining ahead of time and like
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introducing them into the broadcast in
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and out over time I know I'm not telling
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much I may be over teasing here I'm
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excited I'm or you might they be telling
17:35
not a lot but I get it and that
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is freakin awesome we actually tried to
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hack your system a couple of weeks ago
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by having people come in on the link and
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then going and then have somebody else
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click on the link and coming in so we
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did kind of play with that a little bit
17:49
but oh my gosh guys if you're listening
17:51
to this you need to be listening to this
17:53
this is going to be monster monster
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so I want I would love for you to talk a
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little bit about I mean you're obviously
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following your passion you talked about
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the failures that you needed in order to
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move forward what would you tell
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somebody that came to you that says you
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know I've lost my job or I've been laid
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off or I've been I can't find a job I
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think I've lost my passion I don't even
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know what to do what would you tell them
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how to find their passion or how to
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follow a dream you have any wise words
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to share with our viewers that might be
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in that boat right now
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so fashion it's a big world I mean when
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people known about the unpatient
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it's it's high level of fun of knowing
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yourself and the first thing it's to
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know yourself and to know what's what is
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the points of passion in yourself and
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what passionate you I'm waking in the
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morning they're going doing guy your
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work job and then going to your life
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routine and back so first thing is
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better understanding what are my
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passions I have a lot of people that
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come familiar with they don't know what
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is the passion of their life is it they
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have a job they have a family is
19:05
everything but when you are asking them
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what is the patient or what you're
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looking to have what is the purpose
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they don't have answers they don't know
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what their life to do it's not just a
19:15
passion I've asked you know do you have
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any hobbies there have any things that
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you like to do they run I've answer to
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that so the first thing is better
19:23
understand what is your passion when you
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understand it Lily understands if there
19:28
is no connection between passion to
19:31
money it's not like there is a patient
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to money but there is a patient to money
19:38
you can do all the stuff I mean lot lot
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of stuff without any connection to if
19:45
you have a lot lot of money or or not
19:48
and basically I think that
19:51
all the small things of life and bring
19:53
us the happiness and and the passion as
19:58
for me to be in Turpan or to change
20:03
things to to see the things from the
20:07
other end oh I mean to see that there is
20:09
an issue there full of lemon to came
20:13
with an idea to how to solve it or what
20:16
we are looking to do here and it's the
20:19
greatest things that we can have I mean
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if if am people a person can can see
20:26
himself like don't have anything else
20:28
and just his passion he can surely know
20:31
he's fine his passion so the basic rule
20:34
is if you can just be with your patient
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I mean with anything else you find it
20:41
that's a that's a great way to explain
20:43
it I really appreciate that one of my
20:45
favorite quotes is and I don't have a
20:47
it's anonymous I don't know who wrote
20:49
this is purpose is the reason you
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journey passion is the fire that lights
20:55
the way you agree with that
20:58
that sounds very correct yeah do you
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have any quotes that you guys like
21:02
anything that you live by
21:03
or do you prefer close that's all that's
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all that's that's that's fine that's
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absolutely fine so let's talk about how
21:18
people to get involved now how can
21:20
people sign up and become a part of be
21:23
live TV I'm putting up the link up there
21:26
so what will happen when they go to WWE
21:30
live TV what will happen they're gonna
21:32
click on it and then they're gonna do
21:35
does it is there any fee for this right
21:37
now well right now as soon as they come
21:40
into the site first of all you'll see a
21:42
bit about what we're doing why we're
21:44
doing it and how they can benefit from
21:45
it so hopefully if they're not fully
21:49
convinced that they have to use V live
21:51
that will help them go to the next step
21:53
on the middle there's a very big
21:56
inviting button that says get started
21:59
and you just tell us a little bit about
22:02
yourself let us know
22:04
what you're gonna broadcast what's going
22:06
on and we'll you'll pretty soon get a
22:09
message back that help you get started
22:11
so sometimes we'll also reach back to
22:15
you and and give you a little bit of
22:16
help if you couldn't figure it out on
22:18
your own but it's very simple because
22:21
you get an email or a facebook messenger
22:25
message with just ways to get started
22:28
immediately so with two clicks after
22:30
filling the guest star in form you
22:33
should be able to already have a
22:34
broadcast running and you also have our
22:38
contact by that time so you know how to
22:40
reach out to us with any further
22:41
questions we we sometimes take a few
22:46
hours to get back to people but we we do
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work hard to get back to everyone make
22:52
sure that everyone has their needs
22:53
fulfilled and if you'll have something
22:56
to broadcast we want to be there to help
22:58
you broadcast it you know I want it I
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want to address that for everyone out
23:04
there that knows me and then I I try
23:05
everything and I have to tell you guys
23:08
you have the best support in in that
23:11
I've ever seen when I first started
23:14
using this affair you know this I
23:15
emailed you almost immediately and I was
23:18
having a particular issue and my god
23:21
I have never seen anything like this you
23:22
you responded almost immediately and we
23:24
ended that's how we met and this is how
23:26
we went back and forth and then I met
23:27
Daniel and we went back and forth you
23:29
listened to the concerns I had and you
23:32
either were able to help me fix it and
23:34
or you actually tweaked your own project
23:37
and it has nothing to do with me it's
23:39
who you guys are and that is something
23:42
that really created the energy behind me
23:45
wanting to bring you onto the show here
23:47
today because when we are in technology
23:50
this stuff isn't going away guys
23:51
technology is not going away you're
23:53
going to have to either just suck it up
23:56
and jump in the water is fine or you're
23:59
gonna close your eyes and have blinders
24:00
on and the world is going to pass you by
24:02
so why not enjoy doing it why not get
24:04
involved with the company that is going
24:06
to help you that is going to be there
24:08
with you and support you and I'm not
24:10
saying this because I'm getting paid for
24:11
this because I'm not I'm saying this
24:13
because I personally have experienced
24:16
your support your response and your
24:18
ability to create a product that I think
24:21
is already lighting the world on fire
24:23
and I can't wait to see what else is
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coming from you guys any last thoughts
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you want to share with our audience
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before we say goodbye little patient
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follow your fashion okay I want to thank
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everyone for being with us today because
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we know that you have a choice as to
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where you spend your time and I want to
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thank you from the bottom of my heart
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that you chose to spend it with us today
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on the passion point for those of you
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would like to see some past shows go
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ahead and go visit the passion point.com
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and you'll see all these shows I'm going
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to be taking this show that we recorded
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live I'm going to be actually
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downloading it and uploading it into a
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blog post with transcripts from what we
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talked about today and I hope that you
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will join us next time on the next
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episode of the passion point have a
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great day everyone and a great evening
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you guys bye-bye everybody