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Caren sits down with virtuoso cellist Michael Fitzpatrick, recipient of the prestigious Prince Charles Award. Discover how Michael has used his music to promote peace and compassion worldwide, including collaborations with His Holiness the Dalai Lama.
From performing for Pope Francis to the United Nations, Michael's powerful sound has captivated audiences around the globe. Learn about his latest endeavors in bringing healing music to those in need through Millennia Music and the newly released Omnisonix Recording.
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hello everyone Karen Glasser here and welcome to Karen Glasser live make sure you say hi in the comments and tell us
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where you are watching from today we are talking with Performing Artist recording artist producer and composer Michael
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Fitzpatrick he is at the Forefront of using music as a vehicle for increasing peace and compassion around the world so
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thank you you're welcome for those of you who are tuning in you just had a special treat here this was U Michael
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Fitz Patrick doing what he does best and that is make beautiful music
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and bringing peace to the world and you're tuning the planet right you're tuning the planet when you say that what
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does that mean well it means a couple things um
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the Once Upon a Time coming up on 30 years ago uh I founded a nonprofit
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called Millennia music and it was right in that premillennium fervor but I
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didn't like Millennium because it was getting overused so I thought Millennia that was kind of nice um and I
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understood enough I hadn't come to Hollywood yet but I understood enough that you needed a tagline right I thought well what is what are what is a
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tagline that can summarize the mission of what Millennia music is intent on
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doing which was providing healing music to people in need I mean right Baseline yeah um the expansion of that mission
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statement was and presenting concerts and and media for the global audience
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right so I came this it just came to me that
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if you go to places in nature in particular um that you have an affinity for and you
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actually sit and and play right then you get in tune and if if you if you can get
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in tune enough sometimes you get the sense that the animals the the winds the trees are are
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listening if you will so tuning the planet originally came from that Genesis
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but then when I ended up taking a group of Tibetan Monks and trais monks and
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musicians deep into the heart of the largest cave in the world after having spent six days with the doy Lama in a
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remote Monastery in the middle of nowhere um the tuning the planet
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um moniker became much more specific in
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that we were intend going in there to to tune in and and to tune back wow yeah
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wow so you didn't know it at the time you created that tagline but Perfect Right totally it was
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absolutely now I I you were name dropping you said the dolly llama so let's talk a little bit
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about what you've done on this career of yours this journey of yours we go way back Michael and I go way back um like
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way back and uh when I met Michael playing the cello he actually played at my synagogue for high holy days um which
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for one of the most holiest days of the year K nidre Edom Kor and I've always
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appreciated Michael's Music and um fast forward as he was doing all these things with all these amazing
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people which of course you are one of them Michael you are an amazing person let's talk about the journey I mean you
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played with the doly Llama you played with the Pope so tell us about some of those
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things um there was a
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long 40 page article in in the um Harpers many years ago ago but the
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opening line was geography is Destiny oh which is a great one I come from
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Kentucky originally which is the blueg grass and it's a bunch of things but we had a famous Governor named happy
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Chandler who said I never met a kuckian who wasn't on their way
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home and I was in the process of coming out to Hollywood I had a whole
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slew of things in mind about doing something more Progressive than what I
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had been trained to do and um my generation is is the last
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generation that will have ever grown up listening to rock and roll by being trained classically it'll never happen
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again right right so some hybrid in in our musical DNA and so I was trying to crack the coat on it and I'm trying to
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get to Hollywood and my late grandmother Rose who was an incredible pianist we were watching the Lakers game one night
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because she loved the Lakers and she says at at halftime she just turns to me and she says you ought to go to
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Hollywood I said what did you have in mind says I think you ought to go out
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there and be a conductor I said Rose I don't know how to conduct she said neither do
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they gotta love Gotta Love grandmothers oh my gosh so I had this in my mind but
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the plan didn't quite work out the way I thought it was going to so I I I ended up coming back to Kentucky after my New
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York studies and now I'm trying to figure out wait a second where how am I
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going to go forward and I got invited to spend I learned through friends that the
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Daly Lama was coming to spend six days at this remote Monastery in Kentucky for this what turned out to be an historic
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Summit of eastern and western monks and nuns who were coming together to try and
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find a not only common ground but a a a
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a common compassion if you will right the timing just worked out wow so
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I get invited I thought it was going to be and I've done far too many of these we've all those of us in the music
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business we've done too many background music performances thought that's what it was GNA be and by the time they gave
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me my my um my set list if you will for the six days days they pluged me into
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nine different performances over the six days like in in the heart of the whole thing wow
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so you know one of the questions was how do you prepare for something like this it's not Carnegie Hall it's not the
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Hollywood Bowl these are monks and nuns and you kind of had the
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sense that they had your number right you know what I mean like you could you
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couldn't you had to be couldn't fake it had yeah yeah okay so
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I did what I could in terms of um I I thought the most important
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thing was to get my mind really calm and um I I grew up as a child in nature so I
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spent a lot of time in nature in the in the in the months leading up to it and I spent a lot of time just sitting at the
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cello just playing really slow stuff um and then when I got there this is
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1996 so the llama's Fame is is not where
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it ended up in in the 2000s right right Hollywood hadn't caught up to him and
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um so I had no idea what to expect from him
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right and but when he came into the room uh the rest of the monks and nuns were
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assembled and he came in last and when he came into the room it was presence
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right and it was a presence unlike anything I'd ever felt before it was not a a bubbly I mean he was it was a it it
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was it was deep um and then I played into that space for six days and ended up sitting literally right next to him
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for the final closing tribute and you know it it was totally surreal um and I figured okay that's it
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I've done my thing I had a Broadway tour I was going to go out on and then his people and the vatic people who were
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were co-producing the summit said we think the the music is so
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powerful that it can carry it can transmit this compassionate Consciousness which got forged during
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those six days okay so I thought wait a second I think they're I think I've just
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been commissioned to produce the world premier CD of the dolly Lama this is crazy yeah right
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and where would you do something like that I thought well you can't do it in a studio in New York City um where would
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you and then this image flashed in my mind of Mammoth Cave which is in
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Kentucky it's the largest cave system in the world I thought well that would be incredible the Acoustics would be great
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the visuals would be great be very cinematic and um couldn't be that big of
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a deal to get the cave I thought so I pitched it they said let's
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do it and thus began what turned into a caper of impossibilities on how
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we actually pulled the thing off really it ended up taking three years to to to
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make it happen when it was supposed to be nine months and I learned all kinds of things about how you write a letter
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to the private office of his Holiness the Dal Lama in daram Salah India how you write a letter to the offices of the
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Vatican you know fortunately I had good guidance on all of it
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but from that um once this the album came out it
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was called compassion all these doors started opening Hollywood doors Washington DC
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doors um and over the years it led me to playing for the pope
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at the Vatican what was that like Michael well it was as John and said it's all show
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is you know you get there you get to the venue this is the next G the venue the
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uh yeah right and it's quite a venue and you know you're mindful of the
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magnitude of of the office right of the institution of the um of the role that
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the pope plays I didn't again have any experience right with him but I had at
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that point uh let me do the
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math uh 16 years of being around the world with the Daly Lama so I had an
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understanding of what protocols were like and what it was like when you when you encounter uh a being like the do Lama or
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the pope right um obviously it's it's a bigger um machine the Vatican is is a
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you know massive machine the um the venue we were in the new it's called the
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Salen nerve Paul 6 audience Hall it's it's a 6,000 seat Auditorium oh is that
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all okay right but there were only 200 VIPs in attendance including then Vice
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President Biden who gave you know his keynote okay so you probably could cram
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like novels of these kind of these kind of stories I want to throw some pictures up and why don't you tell us what we're
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looking at here yeah so this is from the his Holiness the doy Lama yes so this is
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in Louisville Kentucky it's in uh 2013 and that that stunning backdrop
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that you see is real it's it's a it's a section of this gigantic wow I don't
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know 120 foot Buddha tapestry that that they had hung behind them that was really quite stunning and the the the um
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the key element of this one that that is unique is you see me playing my electric
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cello yes this is the first time that the doy Lama has heard or seen me
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playing the electric cello so for those of people who are listening electric cello is not what you think about when
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you see a cello you know it it is it looks like exactly that it doesn't really have a bottom it's the coolest
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thing ever it's the coolest thing ever yeah it is yeah and it after all the
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years of of being immersed in the in the sounds of the Tibetan chant uh the
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electric cello is particularly um effective at at Conjuring these deep
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deep low base tones so um every one of the Daly Lama um events
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has like a riddle to it or there it's like a puzzle that you have to solve it
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what happens is it's like a like a like the Super Bowl everybody gets ratcheted
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up right right and then there are people that that are there are handlers there
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are important people there are donors and everybody wants a piece of it
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right okay and so part of the the
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it comes with the territory is is knowing how to navigate right that
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aspect of it so that you can get on the stage to do the thing right right
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exactly Michael Michael I qu so you there's this beautiful quote here the emotion induced by Michael Fitzpatrick's
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music is so powerful it seems almost verbalized first of all how um
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humbling to have someone as the DOI llama say these words about you
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how did that feel well so that quote came from an earlier episode I should
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have sent you this one when through right place right time I was
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able to bring the Dal Lama and Muhammad Ali together right okay Muhammad had
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said that his greatest hero in life was the Dal Lama and before he died he wanted to meet him and it just you know
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it just worked out so that was ridiculous because it was the three of
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us were sitting right next to each other I had to play into that space wow and I
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mean Ali's energy is you know it's really powerful right
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and uh so I I just went for it and that's what the Dal Lama said you know
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into the microphone after I'd finished which was really interesting to hear it
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coming you know in real time from him rather than you know you write to the publisher and you get the quote from the
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author kind of thing wow wow wow wow I want to share another picture um and
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this is from The New York Times Rebel marching to his own Tunes a sense of humor virtue virtue I can read
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virtuosity and an ear for musical dialogue this is a beautiful picture of you um was this an article that was
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written about you I was in included in the article that came out in in
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199 2 no excuse me 1993 and again it was one of these
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strange moments in life where you're at the coffee shop it's Sunday morning you've got the Sunday Times you're
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flipping through it you're done reading it you put it down and then you hear your inner voice say pick up the Arts
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and Leisure page and finish the article that you started oh my the article
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was about crossover string quartets okay
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kind of like Kronos quartet but it was talking about these other ones and um
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and so I pick up the article and I start I go to the page
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three um and I'm reading along and I'm reading along and then then it it says
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but but string quartets aren't the only ones with a yen to
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uh compose and improvise Mobius which was My Piano Trio at the time a trio
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blah blah blah blah blah and that's where the quote was it was just sitting there wow okay so you know you reach in
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with tongs and you extract it because it's impossible to get a New York Times
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quote that's good yes you know if you do your Carnegie Hall debut and you hope
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that the critic likes it and you hope you get something that's that's a rave and
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the guy the the writer Alan Coen had bought our CD at a concert we did in
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Charleston South Carolina at the spaletto festival I mean I had to figure out how did he know right right
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so as the journey was was going on like when that when I got that New York Times
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quote that was huge for me in my in my development as a Performing Artist I can
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imagine yeah you know 30 years old and and and that was a big deal right um but
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then it's what's great about it is when you get something like that once
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you get it you can check the box right you don't have to you don't have to
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focus on it anymore that's quite the Box though that you checked I mean that that is pretty
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amazing uh the next picture I'm bringing up is United Nations International Day of piece when was this that was in Time
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Square um the year before last so
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2021 2021 yeah so sir Ringo Star right
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cartney they were they came in live via satellite you know there were screens in
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Time Square and then the piece that I have played that was really the the piece
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that I played as the keynote for all the events with the Dal Lama is titled invocation of the earth which is what
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came out of the cave that was the first music that got born right and so every
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time I play it I'm trying my best to to be in the space of tuning the
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planet I have no words I'm just going to go to the next picture right so before we talk about this um well actually as
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we're talking about this this is your your newest recording newest release correct yep and I'm going to let people
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know how they can uh pick up a copy of this I'm putting a QR code here take
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your phones out guys and just scan it and it will take you over uh to the page
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that has all of this on it there's also a link in the comments okay now I'm going to remove this so tell us about
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this album when did it come out uh it came out in July of this year
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wow yeah so it's hot off the press what's what's unique about it and terms
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of what I've done to this point is it was it was a specifically commissioned
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Suite of Music um designed in a therapeutic clinical setting for people suffering
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from PTSD anxiety grief mental health
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challenges stress the stuff of Modern Life yeah
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right and so when
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um Steve Hurst who was the benefactor that that approached me I met him at the
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Rock and Roll Hall of Fame when I played there years ago and he told me he was launching this company and that he had
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an idea for some music um the more he described what it was he was looking for the more I thought huh I know the guys
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that I can put this together with wow so if you look at the
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screen um on the on the the the three guys on the right are are buddies of
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mine from Kentucky that I have not been in touch with or played music with in in
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30 years wow right um Bruce on the top
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is actually the grandson of happy Chandler who I invoked earlier right and Bruce plays on the original compassion
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CD they're all they're all Sonic Geniuses wow and
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they've they got the vibe so I just called them up and I'm like this what it is are you interested right then I
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called my La guys CJ and Ben and said this is what it is are you interested
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and then I lined up all the sessions and what happened when we
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started rolling tape as it were was it just felt like this spigot opened up and
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this music started pouring in wow the phenomenon was very clear to me as long
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as I played what I was hearing for the cell line the guys were going to play what
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they were hearing and it was going to mesh now obviously we were listening very carefully but we were being carried
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by it so the sessions are ridiculous right I get back to where I
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am now on a top of a mountain near Woodstock in New York and I did the old
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drop the needle test and we had 16 hours of this stuff okay
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and I started dropping the needle and no matter where I dropped it the thing was in the pocket always so I was like gosh
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oh my God so then I was like okay so
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then let's just do edits and I I would intuitively make an edit and and my guy
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that I was mixing with sha Boyd at Art Farms he
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I in the the three weeks that we mixed it down I made one
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comment and it wasn't is that perfect is that what you're saying right and
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then uh you know you're check you're crosschecking and I wanted to make sure
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that he was getting feeling the vibe and he was like totally feeling the vibe so then I called my buddy Rob foni who is
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in in the world of of recording engineers and rock and roll he's way up there he built shangraw
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Studios for Bob Dylan the band Planet WS for Dylan Keith Richard's personal
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engineer uh remastered Bob Marley's catalog and I and I so I bring it to Rob
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for the mastering and he's got a proprietary algorithm called real feel which basically emulsifies the digital
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so it sounds analog wow and you know with a little bit of trepidation I I
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brought it to Rob and I said you know how does it sound right above and beyond what do you
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think about it how does it sound right and he s he said it sounds great he goes
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wait till I'm done with it okay so what happens when you put it on is you go
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into the same um really peaceful calm state that
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we were in when we were recording it which makes total sense it just it just it locks you into that that
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yeah I I can't wait to listen to it um again uh for those of you who are here whether you're live or on replay go
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ahead and scan this and first of all the website is beautiful so there's a lot of different things there that you can find
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um information about who and and what you you do um so Millennium music came
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out with this second CD the second album I don't what we call them anymore they're not albums they're not CDs
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they're digital what are they I don't know what they are anymore calling them albums because it is an album to the
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degree that it's an album yeah
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and I I I listen to what you said and I I you sent me a bunch of notes and you talk about mental health and PTSD and
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anxiety in this and this is such a hot not just a Hot Topic such an important topic so many people so many people I
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don't think I know a single person is that is not suffering from some sort of anxiety based upon what's going on in
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our world and music is so important um I've always said that music is the universal language and that it speaks to
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those who might not otherwise understand hear or even comprehend because you
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don't have to know the language you don't have to know the words it's the melody itself how do you feel about that I mean I'm guessing you probably feel
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similar but well there's no question about it
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um the question that I had was can you can it work when it's when it's not live
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right can it work through these mediums um and and that was our
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challenge with the original compassion CD from the cave and and we Prov that that it that it it can work that it can
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actually put you in a state of well-being right that some people when I
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say it's it's a little loaded when you say healing music because there there's
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kind of a f out there now which is like basically healing sound right but that's
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different than music right um
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so I somebody asked me one time they said how do you know it works and it was
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a challenge like what's what's the evidence and I said I know when if it's
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worked when when I played live or when somebody's listened to it when I can see the light shining out of their eyes
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right that that's when I know and if I don't see the light shining out of their eyes or if then I know that that it
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hasn't worked so then the the challenge to myself was I have to be able to make
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it work when I'm playing right live I have to make it work every single time no excuses no matter what
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right um and and that's where the the practice comes in but that goes back to
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this business of tuning of taking oneself outside of The Fray of of the
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increasingly chaotic world that that's in we're in
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crisis right I mean that's just the reality we're in a global crisis people
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are freaked out nobody knows what to say people are scared to say stuff right and
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nobody few people know what to do or or you know what can I do how can I help
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right well you're doing your part Michael you're you're doing more more than your your part you know we started
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out by saying you you were dropping names but I mean you've played Hollywood bulll Time Square you've played for his
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majesty King Abdullah II at the Royal Palace in Jordan and with the Jerusalem Symphony or orchestra in Jerusalem and
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you most recently performed for the retirement celebration of the 20th chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
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General Mark Miley now I'm going to ask you what's next I do know what's next
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why don't you tell us what's happening next next year in June so uh June 6th 2024 is the 80th
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anniversary of dday and I had the great privilege this recent June of being
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invited for the 79th and playing what I've come to call musical Keynotes which
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are essentially Musical benedictions that that set the tone and for the
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dedication ceremony of the Theodore Ros of El Jr Monument who was a hero
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that it's in the little town called St Mar AG which was the first town that was
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liberated by the Allies oh okay and when you go there it's kind of like when you go to
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Jerusalem it's not that big but when you go there you're very clear picture there
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you're very clear right right you can feel it you you you just and and it
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breaks you right it just breaks and so I spent God it was about a week
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maybe eight days it was but it was very much like the six days with the Daly Lama I I'd
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been through the that movie before that the cast was totally different it was
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four star generals representing all the battalions that had fought in Normandy
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right and it was all normal but it was also not normal right and then to play into that
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space was there some performances are bigger
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than others some are more intense than others right um and I remember playing
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for the for the VIP generals dinner I I I played the pavon by Revel because I've
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always loved that that Melody that you know just floats and I I just remember
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my left hand was like I wasn't doing anything and it was going like that I mean it was just like it was on so for
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the 80th it goes to the next level oh and I just left out one key piece so at
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the Theodore Roosevelt Jr Monument dedication General Mark Millie and his wife Holly were there uh and seated next
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to them was um Senator former Senator Bill Nelson who's now the the director of NASA who just happened to be in
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Europe and wanted to stop by okay it was it was like that yeah so so after I
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after I finished um I looked over at General Millie now he he hasn't you know
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he's still chairman The Joint Chiefs at this point and what did I see I saw a
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light coming out of his eyes I was like okay good I I mission accomplished and then I went over just to say hello and
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we just hit it off and we talked and talked and talked and then so now I've
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become friends with the Millies who are the most extraordinary human beings you can
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imagine and so part of what's happening with the
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healing music on the ramp to the 80th is to now begin to take it into the front
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lines of the hospitals by the bedsides to to the veterans into the hospice you
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know Elderly Care Facilities because that's where it can make an immediate
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impact and it's also where people from the outside side because you're always
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needing to to find support for these kinds of initiatives people can get it right it's it's really tangible yeah
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yeah yeah I mean you you talk about music um being the the healing balm
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right to bring Humanity back into harmony with each other and with the natural world we need you I I mean we
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need you and many like you to to to do this and and to open our ears and our
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hearts yeah well I mean fundamentally we need each other and that's really difficult
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in as things you know fracture more and more it it's very easy to for us to to
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automatically Retreat and withdraw but we already did that in the pandemic
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right right already had that we did that now it's like you know as the Beatles saying come together right now over me
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if so if the music can be the thing that can that magnetize us to the center so
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when I go back over for the 80th you know I have I have one Mission which is to touch everyone that's there
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with with the tones that come out of here and for the 80th the whole thing
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goes to the presidential Kings level with President Biden King Charles you know airspace is closed it's it's a
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whole other thing in the context of what's going on globally right now right
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okay and yet Michael you remain humble throughout all of this and H how do you
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do that well somebody asked me it was my my friends that are the the the bellmen
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at the United Nations Millennium Hotel in New York City including Azie the bell captain I mean they're straight out of
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Central Casting and and there's a great guy named Eddie uh they've all been
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there 35 or 40 years so they've seen it all right they've seen it all right and
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Eddie said to me one time he said man how do you stay so positive I said because I've been
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through hell and high water and back so many times that it was the only logical
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resolution of it right it's like the the suffering leads to the the the
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exaltation um but it also it annihilates
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your ultimately your desire for the outer um um acknowledgement like
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that New York Times quote back then it meant everything to me now it's like it
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was just another thing that happened right right and and being around the
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doly Lama and you know that's like that's where I learned the rules of the game right and and rule number one is
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get out of your head it's it has nothing to do with you and and I think all of
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the Great musicians and Painters writers all say it's just I have to get out of
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my way and then it flows through right yeah I I agree with you I I say the same thing I'm a musician absolutely you have
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to get out of your own way and you have to it's it's about that not this yeah yeah um for those who are figuring out
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they need to know you more which I am sure they already know go and visit uh Michael at his website Michael
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Fitzpatrick dcom you can also visit him on his Facebook page at Michael
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Fitzpatrick cello and on Instagram @ tuning theplanet and finally go pick
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yourself up a copy of this we'd love to hear what you say what you have have to say about the music um and again if you
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just want to QR it do that because that's much more fun I think Michael any
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last minute thoughts anything that you want our viewers your viewers to know
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about keeping the peace with music
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yeah I think the you know as a child my hero was Martin Luther King and that
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eyes on the prize maybe it's ears on the prize you know maybe it's hearts on the
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prize that the only way we're getting through this thing is to find
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composure within ourselves and and kindness that we can
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that we can be right that can change things right
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that can change things um and and also being very pragmatic I think
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about the realities of this
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chaostrophe23 obvously we need to find a way
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[Music] to God bless johanny Mitchell to get
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back to the garden and and the garden without mixing the metaphor too much is
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is is within us uh and if the music can can be that balm or it can be that I'm
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just having an image of like a fishing rod and you know it's like to reel that reel ourselves back
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in um then um the the you know all that's happened
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in history will not not be for not right and that that's what's at
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stake yeah um hopefully we all learn from history um what not to do as we move
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forward and I want to thank you Michael I mean your music obviously it touches
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me I am sure it touches everyone that's listening to you obviously it has
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touched people around the the world that is where you go and you continue to go and I'm so honored that you spent a half
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an hour with us on our little screen right here uh for those of you who showed up a little bit late you miss
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Michael playing you're going to have to watch it on replay and scroll all the way back to the beginning because Michael entertained us which is just
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lovely we don't normally get stuff like that so Michael thank you thank you thank you go out and do good continue to
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do good and all of you you have a choice as to where you spend your time you to spend it with Michael and I and for that
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we are grateful go out give somebody an awesome day and we'll see you next time on Karen Glasser live goodbye
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everyone
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