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Carolyn Rose joins me for this episode of Caren Glasser LIVE! At 48 years old she sold everything she owned and bought a 25-year-old RV to live and travel in full time. Her YouTube channel, Carolyn's RV Life, was born and now with over 136,000 subscribers and 33 million views, her videos educate, inspire, and motivate people to chase their wildest dreams! Meet Carolyn and be inspired!
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hello everyone karen glasser here and welcome to karen glasser live make sure
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to say hi in the comments and tell us where you're watching from we have a great show today it's about
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one of my favorite topics living the digital no man life and who better than my guest today carolyn rose to get the
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details on how to live that rv life in 2016 at 48 years old carolyn sold
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everything she owned left her hectic rat wait race life and living in the san francisco bay area
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that was hard for me to say apparently she she bought a 25 year old rv to live
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and travel in full time taking her marketing business virtual she now makes youtube videos about her philosophies on
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life travels and experiences with over a hundred and thirty six thousand yes you heard me right 136 000 subscribers and
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33 million views her videos educate inspire and motivate people especially
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women to be their authentic selves and chase their wildest dreams so without
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further ado carolyn welcome to the show hi so good
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to be here oh my gosh i am so excited that you're on the show we've known each other for quite a few years and
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i have been following you once you got on that road of of being an art in the
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rv life and so let's just kind of um you know kind of just jump right in
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what was it like chucking it all getting on the road i mean who does that is really what i
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want you did but wow how did you how did that come about
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that was exactly the same question i asked myself as i drove out my backyard um the last day that i was living there
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i was like who does this what am i doing so uh you know we know each other because we were colleagues we worked
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together we were both business owners in the san francisco bay area and i had gone through a divorce and i was just
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kind of really finding myself in my 40s and one of the things that i got back to is backpacking and i did a 26 day 256
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mile hike on the john muir trail and backpacking and being in nature was
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always just where i found peace and i loved and i did it alone and i loved
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the solitude i came back i was living in an in-law apartment in uh outside in the
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bay area in concord california it was an in-law it was like 600 square feet i
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came back after living out of a 40 liter backpack for 26 days and i looked around and i
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was like i lived without all this junk for 26 days i don't need that i don't need
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that and i don't want to live like this anymore i want to be closer to nature and i want to be free i've always had kind of a nomad spirit even when i was a
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teenager i just wanted to jump in my car and travel across the country and i started researching what what other
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options do i have what can i do i'm kind of sick of feeling trapped in the bay area i didn't have any space of my own i
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had to drive to go for a decent hike with my dog and right i started researching and i found a guy actually
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on youtube who was younger than me living in an rv and i'm like oh my gosh that's a thing
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and literally within three months i had bought an rv and sold everything i owned and was driving away to go live in an rv
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and you're a pioneer in this i mean truly you i think you're if i'm not mistaken if not the first one of the
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first women to do this and and go out there so as a woman
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what is that like so i'm i'm not i'm not one of the first women to do it
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there are i've met a lot of women on the road who have been doing it i'm one of the first women to do it so publicly
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yeah because i started a youtube channel pretty quickly because my marketing brain started going so and aside is this
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too dark no no you're good you're good if you open the window it's going to be even lighter it's going to you're going to
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fade out on the side you're good yeah okay so uh so i i am one of the first women to do it publicly which is
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definitely has been and there were how do i say this like the
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old school people like the like the really you know how it is like instagram like hashtag van life and then it gets
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not cool anymore so there's a whole group of people who were doing it long before me and then me and a few others
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came out and started doing videos and it exploded and yes i'm one of the first women to do it publicly especially i am
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definitely maybe the first woman online to do it
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middle-aged and i did it it was a choice for a lot of people who live this way it's not a choice they're priced out of
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housing um they could fall on hard times they're retired and they can't afford to live because they're living on social
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security so i was really the first woman to come out and say i'm making a conscious decision i don't want to live
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this in a way anymore i need a better work life balance i want to be closer to nature i want to chase my dreams
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so this is what i want to do and being one of the first women to do it publicly has been both
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tremendously um inspiring you know knowing that so many women watch me and
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there are i don't know hundreds of women who are on the road and they say they're doing it because i encouraged them
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inspired them to do it so uh it has been really a very very rewarding experience
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and uh yeah and that's a distinctive thing to say is that you made the choice rather than the
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choice being made for you and so you're out there and about and one of the reasons that i brought you on the show
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besides the fact we needed to catch up is that um you did an episode or a show about being a woman
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alone on on the road there and it struck me as you know we all we all think well
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you need to just go out and you do your thing and it's no big deal but it is a big deal um i think especially as a
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woman uh there are different challenges i think that women have that men don't
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um maybe they do but we don't hear about it but certainly women so how do how do you get in front of that i i saw the
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video i saw the reactions so
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people feel they can say anything to you i'm sure right and they do
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oh yeah oh yeah if i had um i could build a house out of all the
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unsolicited advice i get that i bet but it but as a woman i mean what are
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the what are the challenges that you think are women centric what are the challenges that you really have as a
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woman that maybe men don't have you know this is a question i get a lot
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so many women have and i have to be careful how i say this
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but i i believe this is my opinion i'm gonna own that i believe that so many of us as
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women have been trained to not chase our dreams to be afraid we
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we have been trained to to fear the unknown you know i mean there's like the
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all the male we romanticize male nomads we romanticize male adventurers we don't
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even hear especially in history about women adventurers right the women who come in mount everest first time you
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know the women who were explorers and pioneers i mean yeah you know zapata but
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so i think i i i i struggle with this topic in some ways because i think a lot of the things that
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we're told to be afraid of aren't nearly as fearful as they are as we're told they should be do i have
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different challenges and different things that i have to be concerned about as a woman absolutely you know men don't
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have to wonder you know i'm out and and i go as remote as i can my goal is to go
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out in the forest be as remote as i can to be by myself because for me that's where i can be at peace right if a man
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all of a sudden or a group of men all of a sudden and this has happened to me a group of men pull up in the middle of
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the night i'm in arkansas and i'm in the forest and these men pull up and it's dark and they're honking their horn
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men don't have to worry that they might get raped you know right right and that so that's definitely a concern for
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women um and so there's and i think a lot of men don't
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can't understand that but at the same time where that's something that crosses my mind it's never happened you know since i've
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been on the road and it's not something i don't even know i mean it's you just
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have to be aware of your surroundings you have to trust your instinct and and i i just really want to encourage women
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to be smart to be aware to listen to your gut but to go out and do what you
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want to do and not let fear hold you back that totally answers the question and i
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kind of want to deep dive a little bit more because i think it's not just about being a woman it's about being alone
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yeah being alone and so we're out there alone as a lot of rvers are alone maybe
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they have their significant other with them so they're not quite alone you're there with your dog which i um i i heard
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about the other puppy i'm so sad to hear that you know pass but you have a new dog had
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been like a year and a half right about a year and a half she's two and a half she's two i've been kind of stalking you
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apparently uh to see that being alone um i i would say across the
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board whether you're a woman or a man i think a lot of people don't know how to be alone they don't know how to deal with themselves right and i think that
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that that affects their relationships because they think that somebody else is going to make them happy or somebody
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else is going to make them feel loved when in fact when you do this i'm sure when you do this you realize it's only
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you you're alone you have to make yourself happy is that a true statement
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absolutely you nailed it being alone is the most liberating thing and and you know
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if because you watch that video i talk about this a lot again i feel like
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it's different for men and women i feel like again there's almost this romantic idea of men being alone and you know the
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warrior the lone cowboy women it's totally different i feel like we are groomed to feel like we are less
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than if we're not coupled so i think there's an extra challenge there for women of learning that it's okay to be
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alone and learning to be self-sufficient you know and absolutely whether you're hiking or backpacking or traveling alone
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it's definitely a there is a little more danger just because you don't have someone else to
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call on if you need help or whatever but again it's just about being prepared being aware of your surroundings knowing
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that you're alone and having the tools and the resources and having a plan ahead of time what if this happens what
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am i going to do and i think you're going to ask me for in a minute about getting sick so that's another perfect
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example you know just have a plan if you know that you're alone but i think like you said i think the biggest hurdle is
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psychological and learning how to be alone and i think especially again in my own experience for so my whole life
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i was taught that my worth was in how desirable i was to men right right so if i'm not coupled then i'm
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less than there's something wrong with me i'm not good enough in this part of my life has been about being liberated
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from all of that and saying you know what i am more happy more at peace i am
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healing from my traumas and the things that i've been through in ways that i was never able to heal before and i've
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also said that being alone isn't for everybody i'm an introvert so it comes naturally to me and you have to do the
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work um right if you're not in the in the right place
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psychologically and emotionally it can literally cause you to break a psychological break so some people have
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no doubt no doubt especially if you've been through trauma i think you have to do the work
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i love this conversation um so have you ever have you had any regrets have you have you you know said
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you know i've been out here for seven years what's is that i'm not good in math that's six years six
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and if you're at any time during that period you said hmm okay i've done this
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um maybe i'm done with this and i need to go do something different or are you really constant on the fact that this is
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really where you want to be and you plan on being in this place for quite a while
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um so there's a couple questions there the only regret i have is that i came out
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here to live a a simpler life and what i did is i started a new business
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i was going to get into youtube but yes you did yeah so i that's the one regret i have i mean i had all these plans i
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had a marketing business that had been that was going i had clients i was making a living it was sustainable and
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what did i do i started another business and anybody who's ever started a business knows that how much work that
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is so that's my i have some regrets okay around that but also
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it's been really rewarding as far as this lifestyle
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i gotta tell you six years on the road i did a lot of traveling like yeah last year i did like
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17 000 miles in like seven seven or nine months i was exhausted i
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was burned out you know and again i'm alone so i'm doing all that driving by myself driving trying to find places to
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camp cooking dealing with my dog i mean it i was exhausted and so i landed i got back to new mexico
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this year and i was like okay i'm done i'm buying land i'm done and i started i started looking at land
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and maybe just a home base or a homestead or a tiny home and
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that didn't meet my expectations it wasn't as simple as i thought it was going to be there's a lot of restrictions on land here is where i'm
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at right right now i'm actually freer doing what i'm doing now living the way
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i'm living um and and and i'm able to enjoy the life
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i want to live where i want to live it living the way i'm living as a nomad um
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then i would even at least uh where i'm at right now with a budget and everything for the property that i
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want to buy so right now i am thinking about what's next i've
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been thinking about what's next for a while and i haven't found anything that is pulling me yet
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it i have to tell you it seems like a very attractive lifestyle that i i'm i'm
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i kind of go in that direction i i could see myself doing that except for the driving part uh
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you know but i could totally see myself doing that i'm a little jealous actually and i say that really with great respect
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because i love the idea that you just said i'm gonna do this and you you did
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it and and you got out of your fear and however long it took and you went and did it so you mentioned something you
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know that you gave up your business because now you're in a brand new business it's not that brand new
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136 000 followers on your youtube channel what
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happened the day you woke up and said oh my god i have a hundred and what was that like
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so in the beginning i was still doing my marketing business so i i had decided of
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course i had to change my business model because the my business model in a stationary life was very networking um
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getting involved face-to-face dependent and i was going to take my business into more project based so that i could do
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just more online and some of my clients even required me to be on site and things like that so i was like okay i've
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got a base of clients we'll turn those into virtual and then i'll just add project work on top of that and i i met
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a friend on the road within a few months and he's a very popular youtuber and he was just
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starting his youtube thing and he was just like you know you might really want to consider youtube and my whole thing
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about getting on the road was i wanted to write because i've always wanted to write a book and i was like okay i'll start a website and i'll start a blog
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and maybe i'll do videos eventually well he kept nagging me do videos do videos and you know and i i started i was like
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okay finally i'll do i'll do a video my fifth video went viral
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um and again you know i i'm a marketer so i set everything up i'm gonna do a website first i'll set up my social
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media first i laid out my marketing strategy before i ever posted my first video and my fifth video went viral it's
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got like two million views or something now it's the weirdest video i put blankets on my
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video and my windows to stay warm i still can't believe that video went viral and within within uh 40 days i had 20
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000 subscribers boom it hit i mean it just my first my look at my first five
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videos i mean they're 500 300 000 400 000 views and in a million
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so i did both for like six months i was still doing my marketing i was still
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maintaining my clients and i was started building a youtube channel and uh and i was like i something's gotta give i
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can't do i can't keep doing both i was falling down on my clients right and um
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so i had to make a choice which one am i going to do and i was like you know what i'm kind of burnt out so i'm going to let's give
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this youtube thing a try and i um i phased out my clients and
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here i am six years later uh five and a half years later um and yeah and 136 000
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um subscribers and i was you know my i've been doing this a while and there
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it's a lot more flooded now so there's a lot more competition there used to be but i look at my videos and i'm like
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yeah i'm only getting 15 000 views and i'm like 15 000 people are watching
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exactly exactly um but i i think i think it's probably fair
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to say since you did have and do have that marketing background that that helped probably because you you
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knew what you were doing i think a lot of the youtubers that came uh you know came after you
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it was kind of hit and miss and you know they didn't have a marketing background and i'm sure that had to have helped i
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would have to believe it would have to help so how do you work i mean i've seen a lot of your videos you you you do
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videos about you know just being on the road how you put blank i saw that one how you put blankets on the windows what
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do you do when it's cold and how do you stay i mean i've seen what you do you literally it's how to's just in case i
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think somebody that would want to go out they should just watch your videos and say okay i have to do i have to get this i have to do that do you think because
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you went that route first because now they're not all how-to's they're more experiential so do you think that that
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helped at the beginning because i know that how-to videos do really well in regular business as well you think that
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that helped oh yeah i definitely because i didn't know you know yeah i had a strategy and a
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plan about my channel and i think in the beginning i thought it was going to be all how to and then i did my third video
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or something was an experiential one and i don't know if you saw the video this old lady kicked me out of a camp i got i
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was in the shower i got a knock on the door and um this lady was like you have to leave and then i realized that she
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just didn't want me camping there because she wanted that spot and it so and and i remember consciously like i'm
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going like i can't believe she did that and i remember consciously thinking okay i'm gonna film this because this is
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gonna show my audience who i am this is my personality this is me and that really kind of thing started the
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experiential ones right and so the how-to i definitely is a foundation because yeah a lot of people
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like myself if you go to people go to youtube for how-to not necessarily for a reality show which is which is i joke
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was what uh how what i have um and so definitely i think the how to's are the foundation and i still try to do
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like once a week like a how-to video or um but but i what what i have learned
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over the years my my core audience um you know again the
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marketer i always look at my demographics and i survey my audience and i know who my audience are my my
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audience are really the women i mean sure people come for the how-to but that's not why they stay right the
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people who stay stay because of the connection the experience the motivation
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the inspiration because i've told my story and they connect with me on it so
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you know marketing is not about you know throwing everything against the wall and what sticks it's about
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connection and it's about um personal relationships and and being authentic and i found that that is really what has
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uh grown the loyalty in my channel is the authenticity and the storytelling and women and i think women are
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empowered by you women are empowered by you because if you can do it i can do it
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that man that was my goal my very my very first video was like i'm a cautionary tale
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i'm here to show that if i can do it anybody can do it so yes so
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you you decided to create these youtube videos um and you had learned i know through blogging that your story of
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being a survivor overcoming addiction and other adversities inspired women you know to tap into their inner strength
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and then your youtube took it one step farther because it wasn't just blogging now you were now you were now youtubing
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so do you have any tips for women let's just let's just focus on women right now who are
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maybe thinking about getting out of their own way and they're holding back on their dreams
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any suggestions for them do it you know i mean that sounds stupid and
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and and and like quit what's the word i'm looking for like you know uh i don't know what the word is i'm
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looking for menopause brain um you know it sounds like super easy but um but
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really just do it and the thing that i always tell women when they look at me and they're like you're so brave i can't
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believe you're able to do i didn't go from sitting on the couch to being able to live by myself full-time in an rv it
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took a million baby steps there are a million baby steps between where you are
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and where you want to be ultimately you have to start with that baby step and
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one of the clearest examples of this is my john muir trail blog and that's where
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really where i first started telling my story publicly and i talk about climbing mount whitney and it literally was like
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putting my foot one inch in one inch at a time in and
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you know and that's like a very real tactical example of baby steps but if
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you want to live in an rv if you want to tackle a big hike you know don't go from okay here i am and i have to live in an
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rv first go out and start learning how to camp by yourself go on a day trip by yourself first then go overnight to a
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hotel by yourself then go camping for one night by yourself then go
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backpacking one night by yourself and then go two nights and then a week that's how i did it i used to be scared
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to death to be alone in the woods at night believe it or not and my first solo backpacking trip uh one night out i
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thought there were people out in the woods with chainsaws and they were gonna murder me so oh my god how frightening
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i was i was lost and there was i wasn't even on the trail so there's no way they were chainsaws out there i was hearing
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things you know but the point is there there are a million literally a million baby steps between where you are now and
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where you ultimately want to be so just take that first baby step make a plan
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uh you know just do the little things in between that are going to get you there
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so we're right now we're doing this as a recording because we knew that there was
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a good chance that your internet would drop out and in fact nobody will see that but we're editing this and i'm saying that out loud because in fact
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your internet has dropped out so how do you work i mean i know that you do a lot of recording recorded videos and then
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you put them up is that why so that you don't have to run the risk of dropping out in a show do you do any
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live shows do you do anything in the moment right now i do some live streams and my uh my my
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viewers really love the live streams but i've never wanted to be tied down to a schedule right i mean i'm tied down to a
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schedule on my youtube channel i post every because you have to be that's marketing right you know for consistency or whatever so
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uh but but this live isn't
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the um it's it's not how youtube works or at least that's not
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how i have been doing it it really is about so shooting editing and voice
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overs and research because i like to provide some history so my my videos are
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very experiential and also i do a lot of travel and history about where i'm going and things like that so just the the
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nature of youtube and the nature of my channel just makes more sense to do pre-recorded
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so i have one more question about your travels um you've been you've been all over right all over are there places that you
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have gone back to or do you only go to one place once um how does that work
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so i'm the kind of person like once i've done something i'm like okay been there done that i want to do something else
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literally i thought about that i was just thinking about that yesterday i went to alaska i spent three or four
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months in alaska a few the first year i bought this this rv this is my second rv
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and uh i loved alaska it was amazing and i was thinking the other day i i need
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some a new challenge something new and exciting i was like maybe i'll go to alaska again i'm like why i haven't been
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to mexico i haven't been to panama i haven't been to chile i haven't been there's places in canada
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so the only places that i go to again are
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so being a nomad the way i do it i kind of have
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there there are seasons you have to deal with right so i can't be in the north in the winter so i have i have a couple of
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states that i like being in in the winter because i know you know the desert the southwest
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and so there it's kind of nice i i have like camps that i know that i can go to so i
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don't have to search for camps so and i've been on the road six years now i've been to almost every state
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except delaware and now that i've been doing this so long well
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there's still you know parts of states i haven't been to but i pretty much can say okay well i know where to camp
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here now i know where to camp there now to make my life easier and i'll have to search for camping all the time so
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you know long long way to your answer is i i prefer not to go back
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to the same place but i do inevitably so tell me give me what is what is your do you have a
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number one place the best place that you ever went that you know it's like it's going to stay in your memory forever and
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you can you compare everything else to that place or do you have multiple places that you
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so i was just talking to a man i'm in colorado now and i was just talking to the guy who was filling my pro propane
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he was originally from california the the john muir trail hike the eastern sierra nevada the sierra nevadas if you
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ever if you're a backpacker if you're hiker that that hike changed my life it changed who i am at the very core it's
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beautiful it's jaw-dropping it's just amazing and um and i think valdez alaska
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uh i have really fond memories of valdez alaska okay well you heard it here first
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caroline people i'm going to give people options how they can follow you first of all obviously we have to put up your youtube channel because that's where the
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magic happens at caroline's rv life you also have a website they can go to
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carolyn's imagine this caroline's rvlife.com and while they're there they can sign up for your newsletter
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right yes once a month oh okay great and then you also have a patreon which is
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a member only content and people can support you on your travels and if they go to patreon.com forward slash
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carolyn's rv life they can support you at all different levels you know they
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they can they can do it at all different levels any any thoughts that you would like to share that we have not touched
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upon that you think would be important for our listeners to understand about this digital nomad rv life
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um wow well i don't know uh you know there a lot of
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people get stuck in what am i going to do like i want to travel i want to do more i want to
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travel internationally even or i or live in an rv or a van and a lot of people get stuck on what are they going to do
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for a living and one of the things that i have talked about a lot is there are
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so many opportunities for making a living if you just kind of change your mindset a little bit about how you work
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and i think that's the hardest thing it took me several years but i think especially as americans were so uh
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trained to think of work as one way but i know a lot of nomads who
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work six months a year doing whatever i just met a guy whose wife does cleans
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airbnbs or they bartend or whatever but there there are definitely those offline
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ways to make a living but there are the world is so different now even then when
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i started six years ago there are so many different opportunities for uh working digitally um you know online
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from teaching online and which is old school but i mean there are i have a friend now who does medical starting a
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babble anyway uh who is who's starting to uh who works doing medical billing and
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things like that so i just if you're thinking about living on the road start your research now look at your skill set
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it might not be doing what you're currently doing and there are just so many more opportunities now than there
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used to be and internet connectivity is getting easier than ever i get internet
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through my cell phone through a mobile hotspot and i just purchased our link for satellite so i can go further off
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grid so it's it's getting easier than ever well as i said you before we went live i
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am jealous of you i am jealous of what you are doing and of course i can do that too and maybe who knows i might
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meet you out there on the road um i i totally love what you're doing i i've always worked digitally and i've always
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worked remotely so it's it's not a big step to get into
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well it is a big step i shouldn't say but it i it's not a big step from for somebody who already works remote to not
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have they don't have to worry about what they're going to do when they're out there absolutely yeah absolutely and i think
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we're going to start seeing more of that the other thing too really quickly if you are thinking about this lifestyle it's changing it's it's
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gotten so much more popular i'm seeing more laws in national forests and and deserts so uh that might also be
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something to keep in mind and how if you want to do it the way i do it it's going to get more challenging uh people are
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getting priced out of homes and so there's a lot more homeless so just keep that in mind
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right and for our listeners um make sure you go and follow us on social media at karen glasser on every single platform
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thank you carolyn for for coming on the show i am i'm just so thrilled i i love what you're doing and i know that our
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viewers are going to be following you out there um go out there and give somebody an awesome day we're going to make sure
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that um you join us next time on the next episode of karen glasser live so
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goodbye everyone
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