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Unlocking the Power of Artificial Intelligence with Blaine Bolus
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Aug 17, 2023
Blaine Bolus co-founder of Castmagic joins us as we dive into the fascinating world of artificial intelligence . Discover how their innovative platform can unleash your creativity and create unique content that has never been produced before. Don't miss out on this insightful conversation about the future of content creation and how it will revolutionize the way you engage with your audience Try Castmagic https://get.castmagic.io/carenglasser. Get 30% off when you use the code: 20offwithCaren #AI #ContentTransformation #ArtificialIntelligence #ContentGenerationTool #CastMagicAI 📌 Subscribe to the Channel: https://YouTube.com/@CarenGlasser Check out my website here: http://www.carenglasser.com Follow us on Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/carenglasser Follow us on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/carenglasserlive Follow us on Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/carenglasser [00:00] Introduction to the episode and guest, Blaine Bolus [01:10] Overview of Magic Chat and its features, including Castmagic and the modify button [03:25] Importance of using personal perspective and experiences as the foundation for AI-generated content [06:02] The use of AI in various aspects of life, including customer reviews and summarizing feedback [08:24] Discussion on the scalability of AI and concerns about its malicious usage [10:20] AI's potential impact on job market and its benefits for solopreneurs and small businesses [12:58] Introduction of the new iOS app for Castmagic and its applications for creating content on the go [15:05] Building a voice knowledge base with users' recorded content for various types of content creation [17:20] Error identification in AI-generated content and customization options for more casual conversations [19:12] Ongoing developments and features of Castmagic
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today we are diving deep into AI
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artificial intelligence with Blaine
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Bullis co-founder of cast magic welcome
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to the show Karen thanks so much for
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having me I am super excited to be here
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I am probably even more super excited
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than you I've been waiting for the show
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for quite a while I'm a newbie at all of
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this and loving what artificial
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intelligence has to share with us and
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what we can do with it but before we
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jump into that let's talk about you so
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what did you do before this and why did
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you decide to jump into artificial
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intelligence cool absolutely so I guess
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my background is uh as a startup
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entrepreneur I've been building startups
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for the last decade now
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um I guess I'm aging myself but uh every
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time
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after after I finished up school the
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first thing I did was start a startup in
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the restaurant technology space called
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seated
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um they grew a whole bunch their VC
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backed uh raised you know North of 60
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million dollars to build a really really
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big you know restaurant Tech platform
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um after that super fast scaling
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business
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um I decided to launch another business
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uh in the e-commerce and data space and
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this one unfortunately didn't get
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traction didn't get product Market fit
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so we ended up having to return capital
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and shut it down and in that process but
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part of what we were doing for that
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second business was uh we had a podcast
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and it was called DTC pod it was like
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you know something that I was working on
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um alongside another you know co-host
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and founder that I I really respect and
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work a lot with so we have this podcast
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and
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we talked with a bunch of e-commerce
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Founders and one of the big things that
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we need to do is create content right so
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we've got the podcast we've got the show
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we're talking to Great guests we're
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having great conversations but then when
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it actually comes to saying okay let's
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get all the yeah now what
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um it was a pain right
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um before AI popped up
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the way we would solve for this was
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either a try to train up different you
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know marketing Associates or va's or
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anyone that could like help understand
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and dissect the content transcribe it um
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start creating other social posts out of
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it write the show notes all that sort of
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stuff I was doing a lot of it because I
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just wanted to do my own content myself
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right
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and yeah and that was kind of the
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inspiration we saw AI coming along and
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we're kind of like let's build this tool
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to solve our own problem and had a you
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know my co-host one of his good friends
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is a super talented developer was one of
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the heads of platform at blockchain.com
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like like way out of our league like in
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terms of what we should be building with
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for a side project like this but he was
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excited about it I wanted to take some
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contact and it was like yeah that sounds
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like a great idea let's start building
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and that was uh December 31st of last
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year we had our first call wow yeah wow
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I didn't realize that I didn't realize
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there was a very short amount of time
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we're only in August right now wow yes
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so we had our first call in just on
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December 31st we launched the product
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um mid-march and we're now five months
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in and have grown an absolute ton and
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have a massive platform so it's it's
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been pretty pretty wild ride well I
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discovered you through through appsumo
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anybody in technology anybody is an
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internet marketer and loves to play with
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this stuff they know about appsumo and
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when you go to appsumo you hadn't you
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had this up there for a short amount of
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time and I grabbed it because I had
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jumped in and again I'm a podcaster I'm
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actually a video show Caster Vlog Caster
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or whatever but um it's working smarter
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right not harder and so after your show
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as you just said what do you do how do
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you create all of this content and
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that's where cast magic comes into so
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let's talk about what is artificial
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intelligence what we're calling AI is
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there a definition that you can maybe
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explain to people that will make sense
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yeah I think the easiest way to think of
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it is it's just like really Advanced
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software that has converged in all sorts
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of ways so you've got
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um you've got huge developments in the
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language model side of things which is
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where you're able to use something like
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chat qpt which will just generate text
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exactly how you would want it you've got
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um image based tools that can now you
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can write in I want you to create me an
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image that looks like XYZ and it'll
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actually create that image like
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mid-turny
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um so and you've got audio tools right
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so things that can use AI to take
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audio like when we're having a
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conversation and turn that into text
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you've got tools that can now take text
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and turn it into speech so there's just
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all different ways that AI is be is
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being applied to different problems and
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so I hear that and I get excited
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I know that many people hear that and
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say the sky is falling right they're
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saying this is scary stuff I remember
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back in the early 90s when the when the
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web was just starting to roll up and and
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you could you know do dial up I can
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still hear that sound in my ear and
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everyone then was saying oh my gosh this
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guy is falling you know what is this
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this is going to be the Rune and here we
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are how many years later doing this so
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let's talk about cast magic and I
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thought and I said to you the best way
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to show this and the best way to let
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people know how fun this is is to
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actually show how I used cast magic to
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set up this show so I'm gonna go ahead
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and share my screen
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and um so what I did is I literally put
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a recording in saying I was gonna do
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this show with you and it created an
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entire transcript which was not very
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long it was only 34 seconds but then you
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have a button that says AI content and
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the reason this is so cool is that it
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gives you everything from the titles you
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can use YouTube keywords email
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newsletter uh key topics and bullet
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points YouTube tweets it keeps going now
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the one that I used was this discussion
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questions what were some good questions
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to actually ask you and one of the
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questions was and I'm going to ask you
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this question right now do you think
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that the use of artificial intelligence
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in content creation is going to have
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implications for the job market
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yeah I I absolutely I absolutely do
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think it will have applications I think
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there's going to be certain sectors that
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have a lot more risk to like potentially
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lose jobs or migrate jobs than others uh
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but in terms of the implications what I
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really think it means I think it enables
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like humans to basically do all the
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things that they want it provides a
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massive tool set and I think it really
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advantages the solopreneur the you know
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person who's involved with their own
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business and maybe they don't have an
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entire department that can work under
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them but with AI you can use all these
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different tools I mean even cast magic
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we basically built out a tool to create
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your entire content marketing team
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um you know for a couple bucks a month
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which is something that you would have
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like before we were literally paying an
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agency you know five or six thousand
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dollars a month to try to come up with
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all this content that now I'm able to
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have cast magic create instantly and yes
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are there jobs like yeah now I don't
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have to pay the agency but I've also
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seen agencies now say wait a minute now
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we can use it we can serve more clients
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we can provide better content we can
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upgrade our service as well and I think
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at the end of the day
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humans are what humans want to pay for a
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lot of the times is like they don't want
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to do things so with AI like it's
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obviously not hooked up to literally
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everything that you do and there's
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always a service layer where people can
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come in and use AI as a tool to just say
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hey I can help you get everything that
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you want done done so like we become
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yeah we're able to you know kind of tie
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the dots together and Stitch together
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the tools so I see it as a massive
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breakthrough and an amazing tool to
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um basically do all the legwork that no
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one wanted to do in the first place and
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then you know we can use our human
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skills to do all the things that might
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require a little bit of human touch and
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and polish and you know from personal
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experience
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um I'm a content creator but my content
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is created by me sitting in front of a
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camera and interviewing people or going
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on by myself I'm not a writer never have
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been probably never will be and that's
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not my Lane but
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and I always had to hire people to take
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my content and then write something out
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of it but by using cast magic I'm now
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able to go in and I can create a blog
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post
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um and it's my content so I think that I
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would like to differentiate between
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um maybe a chat GPT where you're simply
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going in giving a prompt right and it
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comes out with all this information not
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all of it is correct
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not all that's correct
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um I had somebody a good friend of mine
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who is very much in the um ethical
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community and he put his name in and he
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said who is who is he because he had
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never heard of it and he's an 82 year
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old man and he went in and everything
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was correct except for a few things they
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made him a pastor he was now a religious
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leader and it was kind of crazy so I
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think that what happens with AI and
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these these programs that if you don't
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go in and you don't edit what comes out
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that's where you have problems and I
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think that for those of us who are
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content creators it's my content I would
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never be using this for it to just out
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of the air give me some content about I
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do 55 plus Community I think that's
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different right I mean there's a
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different way to do this oh 100 and I
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think you know our goal with cast magic
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is to let people use AI to
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kind of just grow the content that they
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already have in their head and I think
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one really important point is every
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single person has their own vantage
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point they have their own experiences
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they have their own ways of thinking and
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when you use that as the building blocks
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of the content you're creating then it
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becomes uniquely yours right and I think
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you see so many different things like
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even chat GPT right there's so many
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tools that are you know can do AI
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writing but the problem is they're
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generic right but if you could take like
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what if you could take a a library of
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all your own audio and media and use
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that as context for the content that you
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were going to create so you know podcast
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interviews that you've been on meetings
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that you've recorded voice memos that
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you've done and now we use that as
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context to like like you're saying write
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a blog post or write a social media post
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right now it's going to have the essence
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of you in that content and it's not just
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going to be some generic post that you
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have no relation to and that you
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wouldn't want to post to your audience
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so so you know that's what I see is a
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really amazing way to personalize the
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content that you're using and not just
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have it you know not going to chat GPT
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and say write me a blog post about this
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topic well it's not going to know what
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you think about it but it's not going to
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be in your tonality it's not going to be
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the words that you use because
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artificial intelligence literally can
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hear and see and read everything that
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you do and it's in my tone and
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everything that comes out almost
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everything that has come out I've just
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like sat there and astonishment I've
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I've edited a couple of things like for
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instance they spelled your name wrong
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and I thought okay that's interesting
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since it's your company but you know
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they should have recognized that the
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other thing that you added in here
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though and I'm gonna actually go back to
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this for a second and that is the in
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addition to all the content that's here
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you can do a custom prompt you can
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modify it let's say you want it more
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casual but you have the magic chat and I
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look at this and I say this is sort of
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like the chat GPT thing where you give
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it a prompt based upon what you wanted
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to give however it's also using your own
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information so you have combined the
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best of everything and have put it in
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here now I know that you have something
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that you can share as well I'm going to
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put it up on the screen oh cool and
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um why don't we talk about this yeah so
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absolutely basically what you were
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alluding to was we have the ability
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um with magic chat again chat GPT you
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would be using it and you're kind of
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building your dialogue with chat CPT
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you're telling it what you need you're
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feeding it your information before it
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can create information for you but what
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the the benefit of something like house
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magic is is you can upload
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um you know your video you can upload
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your podcast you can upload your media
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file you can upload a YouTube link and
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now it's like chat GPT already has all
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that context it knows what's in there
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and now you can start without having to
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tell it oh I talked with this person oh
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you know here's what we talked about
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here are the key takeaways so you don't
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have to build that context in you can
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just start saying like immediately after
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here's an example I uploaded this
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podcast episode that we had done and all
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I wrote was write a thank you note to
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the guest right I don't need to specify
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who the guest is I don't need to specify
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what the topics were about I don't need
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to specify anything and it's going to
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know exactly who I am who they are and
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the context is already done and if I
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don't like that or I want to change I
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can just hit this modify button and I
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can do things I can make it longer I can
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make it shorter I can make it more
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casual more serious or I could modify it
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however I want I could type in and say
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make this more creative or make it like
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I'm talking to a friend whatever
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modification I want and and it'll do it
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so
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um you know that's that that's a little
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bit about how you can use magic chat
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again it's not just for thank you notes
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anything that you would want to write
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whether it's a blog post whether it's
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anything you can just use that to create
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your own content so for those folks who
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are not in technology and they're you
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know just everyday folks there are
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people that are online how can they use
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artificial intelligence I mean I know
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right off the bat if you have Gmail it
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literally if you start to type an email
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to someone it will do predictive text
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which for those of you who are you know
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saying I don't want to do AI you
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literally are doing AI when you go oh
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that's good I don't have to type it
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anymore right what other ways can
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artificial intelligence be used in
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day-to-day life
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well there's so many ways
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um like like some of the ways I had
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alluded to before you're going to see
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these different Tools in every aspect of
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your life that you touch from things
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like uh you know like we said from image
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generation the images that you see to
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the words that you read from like other
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people publishing or websites publishing
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even today or yesterday Amazon just
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released basically
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um a section to their their landing
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pages where when you land on a product
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it'll basically summarize using AI what
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all the customers say so you don't have
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to read all the reviews you can get the
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camera just you know so there there's so
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many ways that AI is going to be applied
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I think a lot of them are going to be
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all these like medial data sort of tasks
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that you know imagine it was Amazon and
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before AI they would probably had they
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couldn't staff a writer to go write
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every single product page that they have
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they couldn't staff someone to be like
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oh go summarize what the customers have
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to say about all all their reviews like
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that would be unscalable but now they
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can
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um so there's there's a million
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different ways and I think you know
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it cuts both ways though I think we're
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going to see a whole bunch of
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um
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you know like people need to also
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prepare themselves for what that means
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because just as easy it is to create
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content it it can be used as a weapon
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right like it they're with these
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Technologies if you can synthesize voice
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you can take voice duplicate it write a
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script and tell the script to say okay
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now you know ask for Bank details using
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my name and my voice and place a phone
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call like that becomes scary so exactly
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and I mean we've got a whole you know
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election Series in cycle coming up and I
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know that there's been a lot of
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conversation of
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when things really start to get going
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with commercials and with all things
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like that how are we going to know
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if it's an artificially generated
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Karen versus
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Karen
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well I think for now it'll be like a
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little bit obvious you'll be able to see
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but I'd imagine in a year or two three
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years like it'll get to the point where
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it's indiscernible
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um that's where other technologies will
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probably have to come in and help
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provide like you know identity
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verification and all that sort of stuff
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so people know what is real and what is
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not so I think that's something that you
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know we're going to be seeing in the
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next couple years fortunately we haven't
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seen it yet to the point where it can't
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trick the human eye but like with the
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pace that everything is advancing we're
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going to be there pretty pretty soon
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so what's new with cast magic what might
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be coming out in the future
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well we've got a lot
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um on the way one thing that we're
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building or is actually pretty much live
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and ready to go and I can just show
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share it with you is we do have an IOS
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app
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um I'm gonna put you on the big screen
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okay so we we've got an IOS app which is
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really cool so basically all you can do
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is you tap the button to record it
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starts recording you and you can just
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talk into your device and record
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everything that you're saying and that
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will be the basis of content that gets
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like sent directly into cast magic so
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why something like this is really
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exciting is it takes cast magic with you
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on the go and now you can use it to
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create content you know imagine you're
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in your car and you've got some thoughts
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and you just want to kind of spew them
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out and use that to create content you
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can do that imagine
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um you're having a coffee meeting with
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someone and you want to remember all the
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topics that you talked about you can do
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that so it really makes cast magic
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portable uh and you can take it with you
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which is something we're really excited
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about another thing thing that uh Karen
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maybe I can share my screen and show you
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that uh something that we're working on
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is
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well that we've already released is cast
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magic isn't just about podcasts or voice
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memos or anything like that you're able
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to set up different spaces that match
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your use case so for example this this
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space that we're working in it works
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perfectly for a podcast but if for
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example I want to have a meeting space
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you'll see here I just clicked on this
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this space which is called my meetings I
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can upload my meetings from Zoom or from
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uh Google drive or a recording of my
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meeting and then it's going to do
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everything that cost magic does in terms
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of creating content and all the
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customizability but it's going to do it
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for your meetings right so I could go in
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and see you know all the things that we
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talked about in the meeting the themes
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of the meeting the topics that we
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covered the action items the quotable
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highlights from the meeting the agenda
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points a follow-up email that's already
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written from the meeting so there's all
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this content that we're able to now do
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across different
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um you know verticals which is really
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exciting and then where that goes from
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here is what we're able to build is kind
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of this you know voice knowledge base if
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you will where anytime you want to
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create content you could say oh you know
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sample like use this podcast that I was
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recorded as context use this voice memo
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and use uh you know this meeting that I
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had done use these three things as
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sources and help me build a course on
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something that I'm creating or write a
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book about what I'm doing so basically
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using your own uh primary sources or
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secondary sources and using those to
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create uh endless amounts of content so
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these are all really exciting things
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that we have uh in the pipeline really
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really exciting things you know a couple
20:08
of questions that were asked of me when
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I put this event up Was Fear was you
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know I I'm not sure I want to do
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artificial intelligence and again we're
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you're saying again it's our content
20:22
that is being regurgitated for lack of a
20:25
better word this is this is different
20:27
than than different platforms because it
20:29
is our content that's being put in so
20:31
for those of you who are tuning in right
20:33
now we're talking to Blaine bolus from
20:34
he's the co-founder of cast magic if you
20:37
have a question go ahead and put it in
20:39
the chat and I'll put it up on the
20:40
screen and Blaine will answer it
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hopefully uh we're gonna answer it
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um so the other thing that I know that
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cast magic has is you have as you said
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the different folders and the different
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things so I happen to do five different
20:53
shows so in mine I I have and I'm gonna
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unshare you for a second and I'm gonna
20:58
put this in here and you can see that I
21:00
have life Uncorked at the top the next
21:02
chapter bookstore Greenberg Financial
21:04
mail media Karen Glasser live and no
21:07
matter where I you know jump into it's
21:10
going to show me the things that I
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uploaded into that particular you know
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uh bucket I think what do you thinking
21:19
we call them spaces but I like buckets
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too
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yeah I and it's great it really is great
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um all right so for those of you are
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saying okay I'm not so fearful right now
21:31
I I think maybe I want to try this out
21:34
let me get rid of this for a second sure
21:36
we're gonna give people a way to go pick
21:39
it up and I'm gonna put myself right
21:40
back into the show I'm all about
21:42
technology so I'm gonna put a QR code up
21:44
because I can
21:46
and all you have to do is take your
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phone out
21:49
scan that QR code and it's going to take
21:52
you over to cast magic and you can try
21:56
it out there is a free
21:59
program right you can try out do a
22:01
couple of audios and I know that you're
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going to want to hook into this because
22:05
once you do it and you realize how
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simple it is you're going to want to do
22:09
it this is great for coaches this is
22:12
great for authors this is especially for
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authors
22:16
um to see what maybe their thoughts
22:17
might look you know slightly different
22:19
from an artificial intelligent
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perspective what other things
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um jobs we have coaches we have
22:25
um real estate uh individuals we have uh
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business owners any almost anything
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can be used right through this yeah and
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that's what we're really excited about
22:37
we've seen endless use cases uh not just
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podcasters but we've seen anyone who has
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a business they're having meetings on
22:44
Zoom they're creating content they're
22:47
posting things on social media they're
22:49
watching YouTube videos they're up maybe
22:51
they're uploading videos to YouTube so
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like it's anyone who even thinks about
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creating content and Publishing it at
22:58
any scale it's it's perfect and even for
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the people who aren't maybe necessarily
23:03
publishing their content maybe they just
23:05
want to be able to analyze it understand
23:07
it synthesize ideas across different
23:09
pieces of content
23:11
um and draft their own you know things
23:14
they can use that so it's it's like
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that's why I like to think of it as just
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like the best voice to content workspace
23:22
in the world and we're really excited to
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just keep building it really
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well I'm thrilled and I want to thank
23:28
you for taking time out of your busy day
23:30
because I know you are busy you're you
23:32
know as you say you do startups and
23:33
you're doing this and you are launching
23:35
all sorts of things so I want to thank
23:36
you for that if you want to check out
23:38
cast magic and just go directly to the
23:40
link you can go to castmagic.io or look
23:43
in the chat I put a link in there as
23:44
well click on it
23:46
um any last thoughts
23:48
I mean no real last thoughts other than
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I think everyone should really Embrace
23:54
AI I think it's something that you know
23:57
there's so many different tools popping
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up and I just encourage everyone to just
24:00
try different things and get just try it
24:03
out right because I don't think
24:06
we're at a point where if you just
24:08
pretend it's not gonna it's gonna not
24:10
gonna happen it's gonna go away like the
24:12
cat's out of the bag this is part of the
24:14
world that we're living in and I think
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it does incredible incredible things uh
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it'll make your life so much easier if
24:21
you use it and apply it in the right way
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and that's literally for everyone like
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exactly exactly
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um for those in my network who are
24:28
saying I'm too old to do this no you're
24:30
not you're not too old to do this I'm
24:32
older
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um and I'm doing it reach out to me I'll
24:37
give you some tricks and tips show you
24:39
how to use cast magic
24:41
um again thank you so much you guys have
24:43
a choice as to where you spent your time
24:44
you spent it with us today and we are
24:47
eternally grateful go out give somebody
24:49
an awesome day and we'll see you next
24:50
time on Karen Glasser live goodbye
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everyone