Want to know what the image experts say about aging and beauty?

Name: Want to know what the image experts say about aging and beauty?
Uploaded: 2025-07-26T03:02:30+00:00
Duration: 32 min 23 s

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hello everyone Karen Glasser here and welcome to the little white lie I am so
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excited we have some of the top stylists and image people in the world right here
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on this recording with me and I'd like to introduce them quickly and then we're going to jump right in and have what I
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hope will be a conversation that you can take with you when you go out into the into the world into shopping into your
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style wherever you're going so that you can have some really powerful powerful images and powerful thoughts to hold you
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up so right up here in the top left hand side right to my side we have Carrie
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Lachelle and she is a certified image consultant hi there Carrie and she's the author of the number one international
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best-selling book the outside-inside magic of a great image Carrie is the past president of AI CI and she is a
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certified image consultant through the Stokes image Institute and the style for hire with Stacy London thank you for
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being here with us Carrie and right below Carrie we have Lauren hi Lauren Lauren teaches the art of being your
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very best self from the inside out right now Lauren teaches her class from across every count cotton in an industry
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from Disney to American Express Bulgari and Pfizer she is a past president of the AIC I I think there's a theme here
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and is resident image expert for career TV and the Lifetime TV series dreams
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make my life awesome thank you for being here Lauren right below Lauren is who Doda buck is an
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international speaker image and brand strategist and also an author she has
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spoken before thousands of professionals work personally with over 700 clients
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and has appeared on numerous radio and television business talk shows in the San Francisco Bay Area I'm so happy that
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you're here with us thank you and directly to the side of hooda we have
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lowing Brucker of laurie feast style hi Laurie good to have you here
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it's all about style Powerman she was named LA's top personal shopper stylist by Angeleno magazine LA's desk
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pilot for CBS la's go-to stylist for the los angeles times and style ambassador
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for the outlets of Tohono and I'm gonna visit you when I you know yeah please yeah absolutely
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and right above glory we have Lisa Fisher hi Lisa thank you for joining us
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Lisa is a wardrobe and image consultant sadness to help women fall in love with
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their appearance again and to love the woman in the mirror and wouldn't we all like to be able to do that Lisa is the
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author speaker and the creator of live image strong a safe place for women to
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gain styling education resources and tools to live in alignment from the inside out welcome I'm so glad that
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you're all here everyone thank you thank you so I asked all of you the best of
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the best to join me and my dogs join me as we talk today about women and aging
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and how has it changed throughout the years and I have a question to throw out to all of you and that is in the Clairol
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days you were confined to wearing subdued colors and dress like your age whatever that meant what's it like now
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what do you think it's like now Kerri you know I think it's really important to just find your personal style and
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represent that well no matter what your age so if you are you know have a little
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bit more of an edgy kind of fun look to to do that and if you if you want to go gray you know find a haircut that makes
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it up fit into your personal style and really rock that and I think that's one of the most important things with aging
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is really showing up and representing yourself and your personal brand is is how you want to be seen by the rest of
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the world and and following your intuition on what that is for you I really like that Lauren how do you feel
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about that I think in the Clairol days there was no such term as personal brand
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nobody really understood what that was nobody was taking time to design themselves the way products are done
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today it's very much a concept everywhere you go and women especially having been through that era or even if
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they haven't are much more aware of the fact that they're designing their lives they're making different choices and the
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work that they do and how they spend their time their design their lifestyle and their taking time to
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design their look to go with that whole lifestyle that's absolutely who to what
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what's your opinion about all this well I'm gonna piggyback on Lauren because a lot of what's happening now is that it
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used to be your certain age then suddenly you're gonna start wearing MOPP and that's it's changed so much because
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we're speaking up we're standing out and it's no longer okay to just be invisible although that's a big part of it and
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I'll talk a little bit more about that later but for me I just want to say that aging is not just physical but it's
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spiritual and not any kind of religious order but it's a spiritual thing that happens to a lot of us where we do
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suddenly decide that oh maybe I'm less than maybe I do want to step back a little bit and become a little more
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invisible and we begin to hide and that's what I want to see different I love that Lori how do you feel about all
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this well I've seen with my clients that you know for whatever age they are if they've hit their 50s or 60s that they
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may be numerically 50 or 60 or 70 but they don't feel that is and I think that
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what ends up happening is with knowing that you're X age that we're supposed to start doing this way or another but they
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don't feel that way and actually gets stuck not knowing where to tread with their styles so you know with it's such
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a young vivacious culture we have now you know we are aging but we still feel young and being able to express that in
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your wardrobe is what we can do especially as all all of us as image consultants can show our clients how to
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do and really to tell every woman out there that no matter what age you are you can be everything you feel that you
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are through your wardrobe I love that love that Lisa how do you feel about all this yes
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that's a great question you know I'm a huge proponent of the idea of who are you where are you going and how you
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going to get there and being a woman who just turned 50 myself and I look back at
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my life and I see my you know myself I've gone through the career years the raising kids years and now I'm in the
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empty nester years that beauty and age is all about showing up today in
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alignment with where you're going and then as an image consultant I'll help
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you to go to figure out how you're going to get there in terms of how you're wanting to show up so beauty and aging
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you know I just remember watching my grandmother as I'm looking through the
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Sears catalog you know ma she's making dinner and I think of it today and I
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watch my own kids watching me make dinner and there there's flipping through the magazine then what a it's
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kind of the same thing but I think today it's about who you are and being in alignment I totally agree with what
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you're all saying I mean you know Lauren you already mentioned that the two of us are in that sixty you know range and
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what I've noticed is is that up until I turned the big six zero I was kind of
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caught up in the am I supposed to wear different shoes now that I'm because I
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used to work five-inch heels until you know couple years ago I was like there's no way I'm not gonna wear five-inch
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heels because if I stopped wearing five-inch heels that means I've gotten old I mean that was my mindset that
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somehow wearing something that was less than a high-heeled made me old because I
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wasn't able to wear them but I made the choice not to wear them anymore and I'm not feeling like I'm old what do
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they say today's 40 is is yesterday's 20 or whatever let expression is you know I
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look at age as it as an attitude more than anything else and it's obvious that I'm here for a reason because it is my
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little white line my little white light happens to be my white hair and I am embracing this fully even though I'm on
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a camera almost every single day there's something about just saying I'm gonna
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make you be okay with this this is who I want to be this is who I'm going to be and how I'm going to show up so the next
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question really goes right at it is what kinds of things do your older clients come to you for and what kind of advice
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do you give them based upon the concerns that they have Lauren so I'd say the
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first one is what do I do now I don't know this body my body is
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different my hair is changing skintone is shifted and and I get all
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this advice and it doesn't make any sense it doesn't fit together so in the image professional world where we all
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sit the goal is to be able to be the one in the know be able to look at the whole picture look at the whole person from
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the inside out and really guide them through that nightmare that is now their closet through the conundrum that is
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their hair and makeup regimen you know whatever that is so they come for that moment of transition that says I'm still
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the person I was but I looked in the mirror and I don't see her anymore oh I love that I look in the mirror and I
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don't see her anymore I I resonate with that Laurie had what kind of things are your older clients asking you well
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they're really looking for it's really like almost fighting what they were once told that they're supposed to be doing
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so with regards to color oh they should be wearing X color mauve or dusty blue
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and and and they put these on and they don't they don't feel it feels old to them but they don't know what they're
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allowed to do so what I tend to find is I'm doing a lot of coaching on let's just like start fresh let's just forget
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everything you once knew about fashion style and rules and throw it out the window and let's build up based on who
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you are so brighter colors make your cheeks a little pinky er you know how vibrant blues will make your eyes pop
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how can we use your skin tone your hair color and who you are today to really create a vibrant look for you so when
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you look in the mirror you do see yourself as vibrant brighter and more beautiful and that's really where we
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start driving our work towards to go together so you know what what do your
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clients say to you of the seat of the older variety I work more with corporate
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women and so I do I deal a lot with women who are feeling being aged out of
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the market and it's so sad to me because they tend to think of themselves as
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needing to compete on an age factor and you will never be able to compete on an age factor with a 25 year old and these
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are flu men who are like late late 50s or early 60s and so what my personal
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thing is just to have them not compete on age but to compete in terms of like what they have the
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experience and the connections and the professionalism and on the flip side of that is that they're pretty much always
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going to be able to out dress and outshine the other person because of the experience alone right and the one thing
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that I would say to to every woman whether she's working or not is to not
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shop with a teenage daughter because she's gonna take you to a different set of stores and even if you have great
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great legs and I am thinking of a 57 year old client that I have who looks amazing and she wears very very short
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denim skirts and not even like with types or something and so try not to look too young and by that I don't mean
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contemporary contemporary is great but not to look like a teenager or a 20 year
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old great advice I love that Lisa what do you feel about that yeah I filled
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that some of the older clients their concerns and I'm I'm an older quiet oh
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my god closet that no longer serves me because I didn't learn along the way you
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know in regards to shopping I would have shot for my shape my best colors and what's appropriate for what venue so
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we're 50 60 years old and we have a closet that really doesn't service and
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we only really we're probably 20% of what's hanging in our closet and so my
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big fat hairy deal is all about what's that 80% of the other items that are in your
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closet what are we doing with that you know and why and can we repurpose it you
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know a different angle to bring it back so you can use it so let's take a look at that and if not let's clear it out
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let's get rid of the crap that doesn't serve us anymore and let's truly and innately find what
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does serve you and then like the other gals you know that is the journey love
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that love that carry how do you feel what do you what happens when you have an older client come to you and trying
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to figure out how they're gonna show up well for me I think you know I I to work
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with a lot of professional and corporate people as well as you know entrepreneurs and that
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kind of thing and so and a lot of them are going through the struggle that everybody is mentioned so I won't
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mention on again but you know for me it's really about finding and helping
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them find out how do you want to be seen and how do you want to show up do you want to be approachable do you want to be trustworthy do you want to be
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knowledgeable do you want to be seen as professional what is it how do you want to be seen and then helping them make
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that transition from you know how they want to be seen in with their clothing
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with their hair and all of those things because I think the key is really expressing who you are kind of like I
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said earlier and you know it then it then it's not even about age it's about
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you know showing up how you feel and and want to be seen absolutely absolutely
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you know my my mother turned white when she was 30 and so when I started to turn
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white when I was 30 I did what probably a lot of us would have done back in that time and that was go get myself right to
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the hairdresser and start coloring at whites because at least in my day and age when I turned 30 the idea of walking
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around with white hair it just it wasn't gonna fly it just wasn't gonna fly at least in my head it wasn't gonna fly so
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I started coloring my hair and now I find myself thirty years later not wanting to do that every three weeks it's me could just imagine the amount of
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money that I've spent and they met a chemicals that I put in my head that now I am embracing the white and yet I find
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that even in this society of all of us saying we're gonna step out into who we
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are there are still a lot of people out there that feel that a they know how we should be looking and B they think it's
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okay for them to tell you that do you think that the societal norms are changing do you think what it's true
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though right it's true the people it's it I find it very odd that people find they have no qualms about telling you
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that your hair I had somebody say to me yes your hair Liz it's gonna be great you should never have colored your hair
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as dark as it what well Thank You Perry but it's that kinda
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thing so do you think the societal norms are changing do you think that women are giving themselves permission more now to
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show up differently than they might have in the past Lisa why don't you go first it's a great question I think there's a
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couple things that come into play your demographics your socio-economic background as well as your as your
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vertical of business are you on television are you on radio are you behind the scenes in front of the scenes
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what's expected in that role and then also showing up authentic to who we are
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there is a conundrum around you know the ideal look this company or a business is
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looking for if we don't get that you know then understanding that and/or being or yourself and the people around
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you I need to get over it right deal with it one of my best friends and
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amazing client has purple hair okay and she's a dramatic fashion style in her
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personality matches that as well and she's a solopreneur entrepreneur and yet
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when she worked in a company there was that minute of hmm who are you
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understand whatever those social norms are I think in a bigger perspective
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we're all giving everyone a little bit more room to be an individual on today's
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era but we also need to understand first impressions are first impressions absolutely well but wouldn't you agree I
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mean to respond back to that it's not just a matter of having the white hair it's the first impression how do you be
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put yourself the whole sell me better right exactly yeah who'da what do you think about societal
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norms I almost wanted to say something first that's a little bit like what you
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and I met last week for the first time via zoom like this right was the first thing that we had said to one another I
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come to you and I say I'm or I texted you and I said now usually I'm gonna
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look a lot better I'm gonna give you a warning that was my right I'm gonna give you a warning then I'm not able to do my hair you know I've got
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a broken arm and I'm using my left hand so I can't this could be natural hair and it's gonna take me like ten minutes
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but I'll put on mascara and so it's like and then you started to tell me a little bit don't worry I have this white strip
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in this societal thing it makes me wonder now I'm not American I mean I've lived here now half my life but it's
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very different here than it is in the Middle East and in Europe and so here we
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tend to not judge judge each other a lot of times based on our looks it's the
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physical image right and whereas I think back in the Middle East my grandmother
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was an exalted position I remember because of my dad's in business and such
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we had a lot of celebrities and ambassadors and such around us and my grandmother would sit and all these
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people would be sitting all around her and on the floor and looking up at her while she recited prose and proverbs and
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it didn't matter what kind of poetry but it makes me to tears now to think of
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that whereas here mm-hmm it's very different you've started to show white oh you know you need to be
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relegated to a little bit beyond behind the scenes and and it saddens me yeah a
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lot yeah see that so that's very good insight very good insight Carrie what do
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you think about societal norms I actually kind of do think they're changing some I think that people are
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embracing now granted I'm living here in California so I might be having a different experience with my clients
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some other people are having living in other places but you know we've gone to
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you know a more relaxed dress code and most of the even corporations around
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here which has been you know very eye-opening and changing and but I really think if you know if it's if
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you're representing yourself and rocking that style of yours whatever it is I
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think that and you and you own it and you exude it with confidence I think
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that that's accepted at least here where I yeah and so for me it's really teaching
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the women that I work with you know to to find what that is and really embrace
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it because once you do that's when you see the self-confidence happen and all the shifts start to change in terms of
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how you start to feel about yourself which you know creates career growth and all of those kinds of things you know
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it's interesting you say that because when I first started doing this my first thing that I did was go out and buy three hats that's my rock honest to god
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artist it was the very first thing I did because of course I set in my head I do video it's evergreen just because
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I'm going through this now do I want forever let some watch me go through this so I'm gonna wear a hat and I put a
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hat on and I did a couple things with a hat and I realized I'm hiding hiding me
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I'm hiding me you can only see up to here if you go and look at pictures on you know social media I took the hat off
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and to your point there was such an empowering feeling that I had when I
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realized I was gonna show up I was confident I don't even think about it anymore and I have since I've made that
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step not had anyone say one disparaging thing not even oh you know you're
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growing your roots out maybe time to go get the color not a person so to your point I think that is very least for me
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it's true Lauren what do you think I think it's up to us to make the change
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okay I think it's up to us like you're going through it now my sense is that
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people respond or they offer unsolicited opinions a lot of a lot when when they
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think you don't know right when they think that oh it's an accident she doesn't see her roots right she doesn't
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realize that she's got half an inch of rain but now that you've got three inches they figured out a bit oh wait
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she has to know this is not this is not by accident so they think they're doing you a favor at first what I what I've really loved
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is when like Lisa said her client who has the purple hair I've got a number of attorneys who have
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gone into rainbow hair and colored and Adelle Doolittle you know green coming down from behind or
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will do a little hole you know color shift these are women who are prepared
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to again shift their lifestyle to the way they want it to be it's all about designing your life designing your look
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from the inside out knowing who you want to be how you want to be known at the same time it's empowering the
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generations that are coming up behind us because we have achieved and I believe that once especially women men also but
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especially women once you've achieved a certain level you have also achieved the
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responsibility to show up at that level to step out of that intermediate growth
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period and really own where you are own that you've gone through the startup
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phase the child-rearing phase you're into this third phase or what no matter where you are it's about being clear on
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who you want to be and how does that look I would say that a lot of women fall down when they say they know who
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they want to be but they haven't taken the time to get the look that actually
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represents them so they have their old selves trying to represent their new self and that will never work
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so on it somebody wants to join us I think Laurie what do you think what do
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you think well I like Carrie I'm also in California and I'm in the heart of Los Angeles where there's really this
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there's so many women out there that are embracing themselves and you also have
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the whole celebrity factor where the women that are aging in the celebrity world and they're dressing to empower
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their bodies and themselves and watching them on the red carpets wearing slim dresses and owning who they are whatever
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figure they are is really inspiring to you know the women that are watching and
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I think so and Luna said earlier there's like a spiritual awakening happening you know I think that there's the women who
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have come to terms with like I've evolved life has changed something has to change and I need to take care of me
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and that like self-care factor really comes into play and I think that's when they exploring well what can I do well maybe
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I don't know my body maybe I do need to find what this is for me and I it's out there and then you're right there is
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this whole other side of we're scared to be judged we're so scared to be judged even in all generations are all ages are
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the especially I find in Los Angeles where beauty and fashion and that
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materialistic side of the Wardrobe part is really on the forefront for a lot of
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people not everybody you know I've been fortunate to work with so many women that aren't in that vein they see that
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and they're like well how do I do that for me so I can feel like that every day because I want to look like I feel like
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you know and so it's really um it's an awakening that's out there and I think that the more women that embrace it
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empower themselves build their look to express who they are it's gonna continue to inspire more and have this beautiful
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waterfall effect from that isogai I mean I'm sure I could say buddy nodding we all agree with this there's sort of me
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so you talked about some of the amazing women older women that are showing up afters and actresses Helen Mirren and
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Nichelle Nichols and Jamie Lee Curtis and now we look at Sidney Joseph who is you know the makeup artist that started
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years and years ago and when she turned 49 she was it she had already gone completely white and she was walking
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down in New York one of the New York streets and she was approached by an agent for Dolce Gabanna and she ended up
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being a model for them I mean there's a shift for me I think there definitely is a shift that women are saying I'm or or
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Alicia Keys who doesn't wear makeup anymore I mean there is definitely a shift and I think it takes people that
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are in the limelight in the camera eye that that give permission to all the
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rest of us who maybe need somebody to say it's okay you can show up exactly
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how you want to show up I asked my mom about the Holgrave favorite pairr thing because she turned gray at 30 why didn't
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you color your hair and she was it was really interesting she said well number one who had time for that I had four
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kids she said but more importantly she said it was really interesting she said nobody in my crowd and a lot of people
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were starting to go great everybody was great nobody actually she's 81 so you know go back 50 years
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nobody was actually you know going and doing all this even though the media
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would might have us believe Claire all that in order to be young you need to color here here's a woman who didn't
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color hair and she didn't even know she was supposed to and she's still white-haired that she looks like she frosted her hair I distinctly have
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memories of coming home from school and saying mom did you frost your hair and she would say Frost my hair why would
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you ask me that she goes to my friends my friends asked it your mom has really pretty hair does she frosted and back in
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the day that's what they called it rust in your hair very very interesting I want to ask each and every one of you a
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one final question and before you answer the question I would like you to give
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everyone your website even though I want everyone who's watching this to know that right below all of this information
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how to get in touch with each and every one of these amazing image stylists will be in there but if when you give your
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answer for this question just your website so that people can immediately know what they need to go do and check
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you guys out so we're gonna start at the very top with Carrie but here's the question what's one thing that you would
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like your client to know about aging and beauty one thing okay so I'm Carrie
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Lachelle my website is
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www.antakungfu.com
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I'm Lauren Salomon my website is Lauren Solomon calm and I agree with him
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everything to carriejustin and the one thing that I would add is that your
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power is from the inside out and the way that we actually exert that is from the
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outside in and what you see in the mirror will influence who and how you are every day so love what you see in
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the mirror be your very best friend and take the time to make sure that you are representing who you truly want to be
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well that's beautiful thank you who'da what is your thought and your website
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the website is my full name so it's who de Baca comm which is hu da B for boi a
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a que and I want to reiterate what you guys just said it's beauty is an inside
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job and you already talked about that I would like to leave with this one thing
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that is so dear to me and it has been throughout my 27 years in this business
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and that is from the poet Rumi and he says I am NOT my hair I am not my skin I
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am the soul that lives within and I cannot say it better than that we can
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see all these changes on the outside but who you are all your accomplishments all
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your gifts and talents that will never go away bring that with you and that is
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what it's all about thank you that's that's really beautiful thank you Laurie yes well I'm a lorry beasts lorry broker
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but my website is Laurie beef style that's that everyone calls me Laurie B style its Laurie be style calm and I
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agree with everybody very much so for me very similar to what you ladies are
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saying is that for me style comes from within and as an image consultant I've never
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been a proponent of fashion wear that's the tangible clothes but I'm I'm more of a proponent of style which is how you
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take the tangible and make it an expression of who you are it's an intangible thing
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and to create that for yourself is the most empowering thing you can do and a
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self-care moment for yourself every morning as you about for your day so style Powerman can change the course of
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the morning your day and your life love that thank you Lisa your website and what is your
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thoughts on this yes my name is Lisa Fisher and my website is Lisa Fisher
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styling calm and there on the front page there is a body shape quiz and an
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opportunity for a discovery session with me and my statement my message to women
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is girlfriend we need to show up unapologetically around who we are and
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together learn how to do that in alignment with who we are on the outside
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in alignment to who we are in the inside I love this and I just I have to pat
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myself on the back because obviously I picked some amazing women to join me today on the little white lie I want to
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thank you I know that you are all very very busy you took time out of your day to join me today and I want to thank you
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and I want to thank everyone out there for taking time out of your day because we know you have a choice as to how to spend your time and we want to thank you
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for spending it with us see you next time on the next little white lie bye everyone

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