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Is your business still running on outdated tech? IT modernization doesn't have to mean ripping everything out and starting over. In this episode, you'll get a practical, no-hype roadmap for moving your business technology forward — without the costly mistakes most companies make.
What you'll learn:
- The real meaning of IT modernization (hint: it's not just replacing old with new)
- What to move to the cloud — and what to keep on legacy systems
- How to avoid data blindness and hidden costs, including egress fees
- Why a clear roadmap beats a "big bang" approach every time
- How to build team buy-in for lasting, intentional change
Timestamps:
00:00 Switching to cloud-based systems
03:35 Cloud migration and repatriation basics
06:47 Evaluating business processes with consultants
12:20 Building intentional foundations
13:31 Considering deployment viability
18:54 Acknowledging strategy and skills
20:10 Key takeaways
Find Caren here: https://www.carenglasser.com
Find James here: https://www.hicksnewmedia.com
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Digital Collective.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to the digital collective. Uh, today we're
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the digital collective. Uh, today we're
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the digital collective. Uh, today we're going to be talking about IT
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going to be talking about IT
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going to be talking about IT modernization. Big word there. Karen
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modernization. Big word there. Karen
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modernization. Big word there. Karen came up with that word. I could barely
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came up with that word. I could barely
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came up with that word. I could barely say it, but I'm glad it's written down.
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say it, but I'm glad it's written down.
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say it, but I'm glad it's written down. Um, cloud migrations coming from legacy
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Um, cloud migrations coming from legacy
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Um, cloud migrations coming from legacy systems and the decisions that sound
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systems and the decisions that sound
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systems and the decisions that sound simple in theory but get complicated
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simple in theory but get complicated
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simple in theory but get complicated fast in practice. Just think about how
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fast in practice. Just think about how
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fast in practice. Just think about how we're moving very fast in this AI world
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we're moving very fast in this AI world
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we're moving very fast in this AI world as well. So,
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as well. So,
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as well. So, >> yeah,
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>> yeah,
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>> yeah, >> good good point to have a conversation.
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>> good good point to have a conversation.
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>> good good point to have a conversation. This episode we're going to we're going
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This episode we're going to we're going
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This episode we're going to we're going to try to unpack what real modernization
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to try to unpack what real modernization
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to try to unpack what real modernization looks like and why the hardest part
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looks like and why the hardest part
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looks like and why the hardest part honestly probably isn't the technology.
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honestly probably isn't the technology.
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honestly probably isn't the technology. Karen Glass has to tell us what we're
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Karen Glass has to tell us what we're
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Karen Glass has to tell us what we're going to talk about. I I just give the
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going to talk about. I I just give the
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going to talk about. I I just give the high level 35,000 ft. You bring it in so
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high level 35,000 ft. You bring it in so
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high level 35,000 ft. You bring it in so it makes sense even to me.
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it makes sense even to me.
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it makes sense even to me. >> I will I will do my best. I will do my
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>> I will I will do my best. I will do my
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>> I will I will do my best. I will do my absolute best. This particular show is
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absolute best. This particular show is
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absolute best. This particular show is part of our foundation and strategy
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part of our foundation and strategy
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part of our foundation and strategy pillar. Um we did we started out with
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pillar. Um we did we started out with
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pillar. Um we did we started out with with a plan that we had different
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with a plan that we had different
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with a plan that we had different pillars and we had different shows in
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pillars and we had different shows in
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pillars and we had different shows in different pillars and this happens to be
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different pillars and this happens to be
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different pillars and this happens to be in that particular pillar and we are
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in that particular pillar and we are
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in that particular pillar and we are exploring
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exploring
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exploring how businesses build technology
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how businesses build technology
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how businesses build technology foundations that actually drive value.
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foundations that actually drive value.
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foundations that actually drive value. >> All right. And we're going to focus on
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>> All right. And we're going to focus on
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>> All right. And we're going to focus on modernization
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modernization
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modernization that word.
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that word.
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that word. >> See you got to say say that three times
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>> See you got to say say that three times
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>> See you got to say say that three times fast, right?
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fast, right?
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fast, right? >> Or even two times fast. um what to move,
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>> Or even two times fast. um what to move,
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>> Or even two times fast. um what to move, what to keep, how to think clearly,
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what to keep, how to think clearly,
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what to keep, how to think clearly, which is my favorite word about both.
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which is my favorite word about both.
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which is my favorite word about both. And so this is what we're talking about
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And so this is what we're talking about
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And so this is what we're talking about on the collective today.
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on the collective today.
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on the collective today. >> Yeah. Very very. And so it's I want to
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>> Yeah. Very very. And so it's I want to
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>> Yeah. Very very. And so it's I want to talk a little bit about the intentional
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talk a little bit about the intentional
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talk a little bit about the intentional moderniz I can't say that word.
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moderniz I can't say that word.
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moderniz I can't say that word. Modernization.
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Modernization.
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Modernization. >> I'm going to turn that into bloopers
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>> I'm going to turn that into bloopers
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>> I'm going to turn that into bloopers just and they're going to be all over
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just and they're going to be all over
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just and they're going to be all over the internet after we record. So I'm I'm
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the internet after we record. So I'm I'm
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the internet after we record. So I'm I'm I apologize ahead of time because I'm
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I apologize ahead of time because I'm
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I apologize ahead of time because I'm going to turn you into a blooper reel.
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going to turn you into a blooper reel.
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going to turn you into a blooper reel. So, so you know,
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So, so you know,
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So, so you know, >> well, when we talk about this, we
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>> well, when we talk about this, we
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>> well, when we talk about this, we normally talk about the the cloud
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normally talk about the the cloud
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normally talk about the the cloud cloud-based stuff, right? Um, and if any
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cloud-based stuff, right? Um, and if any
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cloud-based stuff, right? Um, and if any of you have transferred or migrated your
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of you have transferred or migrated your
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of you have transferred or migrated your things from that stuff that was not
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things from that stuff that was not
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things from that stuff that was not cloud-based over to cloud-based, you
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cloud-based over to cloud-based, you
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cloud-based over to cloud-based, you already know what we're talking about.
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already know what we're talking about.
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already know what we're talking about. And besides the expense of it and
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And besides the expense of it and
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And besides the expense of it and besides uh the the whole aspect of it
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besides uh the the whole aspect of it
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besides uh the the whole aspect of it and then the legacy, I mean, there's so
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and then the legacy, I mean, there's so
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and then the legacy, I mean, there's so many points of this um that we talk
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many points of this um that we talk
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many points of this um that we talk about cloud-based, but we have to be
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about cloud-based, but we have to be
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about cloud-based, but we have to be there, right? Truth, truth. It it is no
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there, right? Truth, truth. It it is no
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there, right? Truth, truth. It it is no longer an option to not be in somebody's
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longer an option to not be in somebody's
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longer an option to not be in somebody's cloud. And when I say somebody, I'm
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cloud. And when I say somebody, I'm
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cloud. And when I say somebody, I'm talking like the Amazons of the world,
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talking like the Amazons of the world,
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talking like the Amazons of the world, the Microsofts of the world, the
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the Microsofts of the world, the
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the Microsofts of the world, the Google's as well. So,
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Google's as well. So,
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Google's as well. So, >> you know, it's not about like replacing
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>> you know, it's not about like replacing
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>> you know, it's not about like replacing what's old. That's not what we're doing
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what's old. That's not what we're doing
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what's old. That's not what we're doing here. And that's not what modernization
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here. And that's not what modernization
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here. And that's not what modernization is. We're not replacing what's old.
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is. We're not replacing what's old.
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is. We're not replacing what's old. We're just deciding what serves us
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We're just deciding what serves us
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We're just deciding what serves us better in business. And that what no
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better in business. And that what no
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better in business. And that what no longer serves us, we get rid of. Right.
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longer serves us, we get rid of. Right.
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longer serves us, we get rid of. Right. Hopefully that's the plan. Hopefully
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Hopefully that's the plan. Hopefully
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Hopefully that's the plan. Hopefully that plan. So the first thing let's talk
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that plan. So the first thing let's talk
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that plan. So the first thing let's talk about cloud migration
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about cloud migration
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about cloud migration miss
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miss
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miss >> miss. Um many organizations are
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>> miss. Um many organizations are
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>> miss. Um many organizations are surprised by the reality of the cost
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surprised by the reality of the cost
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surprised by the reality of the cost reallocation right I'm going to go into
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reallocation right I'm going to go into
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reallocation right I'm going to go into the cloud and then oh my god and it's
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the cloud and then oh my god and it's
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the cloud and then oh my god and it's not just the cloud obviously it's other
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not just the cloud obviously it's other
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not just the cloud obviously it's other things as well but you don't know what
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things as well but you don't know what
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things as well but you don't know what you're getting yourself into. So how do
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you're getting yourself into. So how do
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you're getting yourself into. So how do you control that? How do you protect
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you control that? How do you protect
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you control that? How do you protect yourself? What do you do?
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yourself? What do you do?
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yourself? What do you do? >> That that is somebody's full-time job in
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>> That that is somebody's full-time job in
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>> That that is somebody's full-time job in just about every Fortune 500 company. I
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just about every Fortune 500 company. I
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just about every Fortune 500 company. I I'm excited about this conversation just
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I'm excited about this conversation just
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I'm excited about this conversation just because again, this is a around the
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because again, this is a around the
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because again, this is a around the edges of what I talk about every single
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edges of what I talk about every single
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edges of what I talk about every single day. And there is patriation to the
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day. And there is patriation to the
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day. And there is patriation to the cloud, meaning there were all the
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cloud, meaning there were all the
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cloud, meaning there were all the organizations that were moving from
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organizations that were moving from
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organizations that were moving from everything on prim in their own data
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everything on prim in their own data
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everything on prim in their own data center in their own office to having
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center in their own office to having
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center in their own office to having assets running in somebody's cloud.
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assets running in somebody's cloud.
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assets running in somebody's cloud. again the Googles, the Microsofts or or
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again the Googles, the Microsofts or or
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again the Googles, the Microsofts or or the or the Amazons.
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the or the Amazons.
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the or the Amazons. But then a lot of organizations realize
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But then a lot of organizations realize
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But then a lot of organizations realize that the repatriation, some of that
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that the repatriation, some of that
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that the repatriation, some of that stuff doesn't need to be there and it's
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stuff doesn't need to be there and it's
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stuff doesn't need to be there and it's actually again more costly to be in a
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actually again more costly to be in a
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actually again more costly to be in a cloud hosted environment because of
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cloud hosted environment because of
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cloud hosted environment because of egress fees. I'm going to start using
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egress fees. I'm going to start using
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egress fees. I'm going to start using all these terms, but I'm going to try to
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all these terms, but I'm going to try to
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all these terms, but I'm going to try to break them down. Egress fees meaning
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break them down. Egress fees meaning
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break them down. Egress fees meaning bringing that data back for users to
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bringing that data back for users to
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bringing that data back for users to actually uh access that data. It
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actually uh access that data. It
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actually uh access that data. It actually costs money. you can you can
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actually costs money. you can you can
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actually costs money. you can you can put it up in the cloud and it's
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put it up in the cloud and it's
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put it up in the cloud and it's relatively inexpensive. But when you
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relatively inexpensive. But when you
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relatively inexpensive. But when you start accessing that data and bringing
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start accessing that data and bringing
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start accessing that data and bringing it back so Karen can actually use it,
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it back so Karen can actually use it,
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it back so Karen can actually use it, that's when you start paying for it.
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that's when you start paying for it.
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that's when you start paying for it. >> A lot of organizations in about a decade
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>> A lot of organizations in about a decade
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>> A lot of organizations in about a decade ago, 5 10 years ago, started saying,
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ago, 5 10 years ago, started saying,
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ago, 5 10 years ago, started saying, "Let's just put everything out there not
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"Let's just put everything out there not
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"Let's just put everything out there not knowing and not really forwardinking
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knowing and not really forwardinking
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knowing and not really forwardinking enough about those costs, those
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enough about those costs, those
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enough about those costs, those operational costs." And th those are
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operational costs." And th those are
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operational costs." And th those are more you know I mean those aren't the
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more you know I mean those aren't the
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more you know I mean those aren't the fixed costs of again moving
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fixed costs of again moving
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fixed costs of again moving infrastructure or moving systems and
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infrastructure or moving systems and
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infrastructure or moving systems and moving services away from you when you
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moving services away from you when you
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moving services away from you when you think you're going to get some uh
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think you're going to get some uh
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think you're going to get some uh economies of scale but then as you those
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economies of scale but then as you those
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economies of scale but then as you those operational pieces as you start moving
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operational pieces as you start moving
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operational pieces as you start moving that stuff back a lot of times
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that stuff back a lot of times
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that stuff back a lot of times organizations have fallen on their face
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organizations have fallen on their face
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organizations have fallen on their face unfortunately and hadn't thought about
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unfortunately and hadn't thought about
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unfortunately and hadn't thought about what it costs to actually bring that
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what it costs to actually bring that
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what it costs to actually bring that data back. So why do you think that is
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data back. So why do you think that is
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data back. So why do you think that is though James? Why do you think they
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though James? Why do you think they
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though James? Why do you think they haven't thought about it? Is they're not
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haven't thought about it? Is they're not
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haven't thought about it? Is they're not being um they're not knowing asking the
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being um they're not knowing asking the
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being um they're not knowing asking the right questions. They're not um they're
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right questions. They're not um they're
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right questions. They're not um they're not look beginning with the end in mind.
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not look beginning with the end in mind.
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not look beginning with the end in mind. Why is this happening? Because these are
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Why is this happening? Because these are
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Why is this happening? Because these are smart people, right? They they're smart
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smart people, right? They they're smart
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smart people, right? They they're smart people. Why is this happen?
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people. Why is this happen?
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people. Why is this happen? >> It's it's a term that me and and some of
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>> It's it's a term that me and and some of
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>> It's it's a term that me and and some of my colleagues have coined called data
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my colleagues have coined called data
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my colleagues have coined called data blindness.
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blindness.
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blindness. >> Data blindness is you don't know exactly
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>> Data blindness is you don't know exactly
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>> Data blindness is you don't know exactly how much capacity you have currently.
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how much capacity you have currently.
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how much capacity you have currently. You don't know how much files you have
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You don't know how much files you have
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You don't know how much files you have currently. Don't know what applications,
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currently. Don't know what applications,
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currently. Don't know what applications, what services are interlin and
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what services are interlin and
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what services are interlin and intertwined together. It's all in
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intertwined together. It's all in
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intertwined together. It's all in somebody. It's all in Karen's head,
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somebody. It's all in Karen's head,
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somebody. It's all in Karen's head, >> right? It's all in her spiral notebook
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>> right? It's all in her spiral notebook
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>> right? It's all in her spiral notebook that's sitting on her desk as opposed to
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that's sitting on her desk as opposed to
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that's sitting on her desk as opposed to in in a real standard operating
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in in a real standard operating
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in in a real standard operating procedure or in some type of uh content
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procedure or in some type of uh content
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procedure or in some type of uh content management system or something of that
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management system or something of that
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management system or something of that nature. It's it's all tribal knowledge.
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nature. It's it's all tribal knowledge.
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nature. It's it's all tribal knowledge. It's all what we hear about at the at
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It's all what we hear about at the at
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It's all what we hear about at the at the water cooler. So because of that,
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the water cooler. So because of that,
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the water cooler. So because of that, because of what's missing and from a SOP
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because of what's missing and from a SOP
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because of what's missing and from a SOP perspective, we don't know we have that
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perspective, we don't know we have that
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perspective, we don't know we have that data blindness or organizations have
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data blindness or organizations have
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data blindness or organizations have that data blindness and they they miss
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that data blindness and they they miss
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that data blindness and they they miss things and they forget things. It's
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things and they forget things. It's
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things and they forget things. It's nobody's fault. It just if the company
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nobody's fault. It just if the company
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nobody's fault. It just if the company has been running this way for 20 years,
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has been running this way for 20 years,
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has been running this way for 20 years, >> right?
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>> right?
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>> right? >> And it hasn't broken yet when you try to
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>> And it hasn't broken yet when you try to
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>> And it hasn't broken yet when you try to fix it, you actually do break stuff.
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fix it, you actually do break stuff.
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fix it, you actually do break stuff. >> Yeah. Well, how do you know if your
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>> Yeah. Well, how do you know if your
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>> Yeah. Well, how do you know if your legacy system is uh helping you, not
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legacy system is uh helping you, not
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legacy system is uh helping you, not helping you? How do you know?
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helping you? How do you know?
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helping you? How do you know? >> You unplug it. No, you don't unplug it.
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>> You unplug it. No, you don't unplug it.
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>> You unplug it. No, you don't unplug it. Oh my gosh. See, I I I'm gonna scratch
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Oh my gosh. See, I I I'm gonna scratch
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Oh my gosh. See, I I I'm gonna scratch that part.
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that part.
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that part. Those are the audits. Yeah, you don't
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Those are the audits. Yeah, you don't
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Those are the audits. Yeah, you don't you unplug it and you turn the lights
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you unplug it and you turn the lights
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you unplug it and you turn the lights off and just see if something works or
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off and just see if something works or
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off and just see if something works or something doesn't work. It those are the
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something doesn't work. It those are the
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something doesn't work. It those are the infrastructure system audits that you do
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infrastructure system audits that you do
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infrastructure system audits that you do and and you can go one by one by
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and and you can go one by one by
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and and you can go one by one by business unit or something. But that
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business unit or something. But that
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business unit or something. But that again, that's the job of a typically of
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again, that's the job of a typically of
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again, that's the job of a typically of a consultant coming in and saying,
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a consultant coming in and saying,
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a consultant coming in and saying, >> "Tell me what your endto-end processes
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>> "Tell me what your endto-end processes
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>> "Tell me what your endto-end processes look like at an organization." and
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look like at an organization." and
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look like at an organization." and really consciously think about it. Not
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really consciously think about it. Not
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really consciously think about it. Not just assume this is what you what you do
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just assume this is what you what you do
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just assume this is what you what you do because you've been doing it this way
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because you've been doing it this way
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because you've been doing it this way for 20 years, but actually have someone
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for 20 years, but actually have someone
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for 20 years, but actually have someone physically write it out on a whiteboard.
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physically write it out on a whiteboard.
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physically write it out on a whiteboard. What are you doing, Karen, at your
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What are you doing, Karen, at your
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What are you doing, Karen, at your organization that matters every single
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organization that matters every single
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organization that matters every single day? Who's the owner for that? And lot a
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day? Who's the owner for that? And lot a
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day? Who's the owner for that? And lot a lot of times, unfortunately, there's
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lot of times, unfortunately, there's
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lot of times, unfortunately, there's answers of I don't know or we don't
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answers of I don't know or we don't
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answers of I don't know or we don't know.
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know.
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know. >> Go find out. And that's how that's how
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>> Go find out. And that's how that's how
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>> Go find out. And that's how that's how you determine if this is really
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you determine if this is really
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you determine if this is really important to the business.
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important to the business.
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important to the business. >> And then you throw AI into the mix.
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>> And then you throw AI into the mix.
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>> And then you throw AI into the mix. >> Yeah.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yeah. >> Right. And then it's a big cluster. You
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>> Right. And then it's a big cluster. You
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>> Right. And then it's a big cluster. You know what that is?
7:34
know what that is?
7:34
know what that is? >> You say, "Don't worry. We're we're you
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>> You say, "Don't worry. We're we're you
7:36
>> You say, "Don't worry. We're we're you can say that word. It's all good. You
7:38
can say that word. It's all good. You
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can say that word. It's all good. You can say whatever you want.
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can say whatever you want.
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can say whatever you want. >> I could say whatever I want." Well, we
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>> I could say whatever I want." Well, we
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>> I could say whatever I want." Well, we don't want to get you.
7:41
don't want to get you.
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don't want to get you. >> It's your show. You can say whatever you
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>> It's your show. You can say whatever you
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>> It's your show. You can say whatever you want. I'm just here drinking coffee.
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want. I'm just here drinking coffee.
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want. I'm just here drinking coffee. >> It's a great big cluster guys. And
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>> It's a great big cluster guys. And
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>> It's a great big cluster guys. And that's what happens when you don't know
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that's what happens when you don't know
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that's what happens when you don't know what comes next. We've been laughing
7:50
what comes next. We've been laughing
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what comes next. We've been laughing about this, you know, and I bring up AI
7:51
about this, you know, and I bring up AI
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about this, you know, and I bring up AI and it's not I don't know if it really
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and it's not I don't know if it really
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and it's not I don't know if it really falls into the modernization of all of
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falls into the modernization of all of
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falls into the modernization of all of this, but I think it really does because
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this, but I think it really does because
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this, but I think it really does because it it is what we're doing. um that's new
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it it is what we're doing. um that's new
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it it is what we're doing. um that's new and different. But we were laughing
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and different. But we were laughing
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and different. But we were laughing because we're jumping into all of these
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because we're jumping into all of these
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because we're jumping into all of these platforms and we're building things
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platforms and we're building things
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platforms and we're building things without knowing how much it's going to
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without knowing how much it's going to
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without knowing how much it's going to cost. Right. And when we find out how
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cost. Right. And when we find out how
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cost. Right. And when we find out how much it costs, we're already so deep
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much it costs, we're already so deep
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much it costs, we're already so deep down into it.
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down into it.
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down into it. >> Yeah.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yeah. >> Right.
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>> Right.
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>> Right. >> What are you supposed to do? And I don't
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>> What are you supposed to do? And I don't
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>> What are you supposed to do? And I don't know if this really does connect to AI,
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know if this really does connect to AI,
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know if this really does connect to AI, but I think it sort of does because if
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but I think it sort of does because if
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but I think it sort of does because if you don't know what you're doing and
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you don't know what you're doing and
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you don't know what you're doing and what it's going to cost you and whether
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what it's going to cost you and whether
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what it's going to cost you and whether it's a cloud up there or it's a manis
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it's a cloud up there or it's a manis
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it's a cloud up there or it's a manis cloud or it's a
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cloud or it's a
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cloud or it's a >> whatever,
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>> whatever,
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>> whatever, >> I see AI being able to probably help
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>> I see AI being able to probably help
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>> I see AI being able to probably help organizations
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organizations
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organizations irregardless of size in terms of being
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irregardless of size in terms of being
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irregardless of size in terms of being able to quickly identify use case and
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able to quickly identify use case and
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able to quickly identify use case and business practices. So things that
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business practices. So things that
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business practices. So things that normally would have taken a a longer
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normally would have taken a a longer
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normally would have taken a a longer term, a longer time to diagnose and
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term, a longer time to diagnose and
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term, a longer time to diagnose and identify,
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identify,
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identify, >> right?
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>> right?
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>> right? >> Get your prompting skills up, folks, and
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>> Get your prompting skills up, folks, and
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>> Get your prompting skills up, folks, and and plug that into your LLM of choice
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and plug that into your LLM of choice
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and plug that into your LLM of choice and and have it investigate and
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and and have it investigate and
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and and have it investigate and interrogate your business. So there are
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interrogate your business. So there are
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interrogate your business. So there are efficiencies that can come out of AI to
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efficiencies that can come out of AI to
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efficiencies that can come out of AI to help an organization go from legacy to
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help an organization go from legacy to
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help an organization go from legacy to more of a modern infrastructure,
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more of a modern infrastructure,
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more of a modern infrastructure, >> right? Because they're hooking up to our
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>> right? Because they're hooking up to our
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>> right? Because they're hooking up to our computers now. So you got you got clawed
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computers now. So you got you got clawed
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computers now. So you got you got clawed computer I guess that will connect will
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computer I guess that will connect will
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computer I guess that will connect will connect to your computer and you can say
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connect to your computer and you can say
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connect to your computer and you can say go in there and find my duplicate files
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go in there and find my duplicate files
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go in there and find my duplicate files my everything the stuff that we all say
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my everything the stuff that we all say
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my everything the stuff that we all say we're going to do
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we're going to do
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we're going to do >> when we get the time.
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>> when we get the time.
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>> when we get the time. >> I didn't know this was going to be an
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>> I didn't know this was going to be an
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>> I didn't know this was going to be an intervention session. Okay
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intervention session. Okay
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intervention session. Okay >> but you but AI helps with that and I
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>> but you but AI helps with that and I
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>> but you but AI helps with that and I think that is very helpful especially
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think that is very helpful especially
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think that is very helpful especially when you don't know what you got out
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when you don't know what you got out
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when you don't know what you got out there.
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there.
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there. >> Yeah. Right. Again, it it can be
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>> Yeah. Right. Again, it it can be
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>> Yeah. Right. Again, it it can be personal, it can be professional at all
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personal, it can be professional at all
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personal, it can be professional at all aspects of just
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aspects of just
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aspects of just >> technology life. We can leverage AI to
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>> technology life. We can leverage AI to
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>> technology life. We can leverage AI to help us get better to do better and be
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help us get better to do better and be
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help us get better to do better and be better. And again, if if you're looking
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better. And again, if if you're looking
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better. And again, if if you're looking to be more efficient, especially in
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to be more efficient, especially in
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to be more efficient, especially in today's day and age, and be more
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today's day and age, and be more
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today's day and age, and be more modernized in your deployment, leverage
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modernized in your deployment, leverage
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modernized in your deployment, leverage these leverage these tools. I was I was
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these leverage these tools. I was I was
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these leverage these tools. I was I was talking to some folks uh a couple of
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talking to some folks uh a couple of
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talking to some folks uh a couple of nights ago, and you know, we were
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nights ago, and you know, we were
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nights ago, and you know, we were talking about building websites the old
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talking about building websites the old
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talking about building websites the old fashioned way back in back in the day.
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fashioned way back in back in the day.
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fashioned way back in back in the day. I'm going to date myself. Dreamweaver
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I'm going to date myself. Dreamweaver
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I'm going to date myself. Dreamweaver even before Yes. Right. Okay. Before
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even before Yes. Right. Okay. Before
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even before Yes. Right. Okay. Before we're, you know, Dreamweaver and all
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we're, you know, Dreamweaver and all
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we're, you know, Dreamweaver and all that stuff. If I had to write another
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that stuff. If I had to write another
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that stuff. If I had to write another line of HTML,
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line of HTML,
10:08
line of HTML, >> the rest of my hair would fall out.
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>> the rest of my hair would fall out.
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>> the rest of my hair would fall out. Right now, I'm telling these tools and
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Right now, I'm telling these tools and
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Right now, I'm telling these tools and these platforms to go do the thing for
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these platforms to go do the thing for
10:13
these platforms to go do the thing for me. I'm modernizing my deployments,
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me. I'm modernizing my deployments,
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me. I'm modernizing my deployments, leveraging these new technologies. Why
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leveraging these new technologies. Why
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leveraging these new technologies. Why not do that again for
10:21
not do that again for
10:21
not do that again for >> brick andmortar, old school, legacy,
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>> brick andmortar, old school, legacy,
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>> brick andmortar, old school, legacy, whatever the business is as well
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whatever the business is as well
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whatever the business is as well >> to be more modern and say this needs to
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>> to be more modern and say this needs to
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>> to be more modern and say this needs to reside here local in the infrastructure
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reside here local in the infrastructure
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reside here local in the infrastructure in the data center. This needs to be at
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in the data center. This needs to be at
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in the data center. This needs to be at somebody's cloud. This helps us save on
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somebody's cloud. This helps us save on
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somebody's cloud. This helps us save on our capital expenditures and turn those
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our capital expenditures and turn those
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our capital expenditures and turn those into operations. Just just it's sound
10:38
into operations. Just just it's sound
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into operations. Just just it's sound business sense. It it is it really is
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business sense. It it is it really is
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business sense. It it is it really is just sound business sense to use these
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just sound business sense to use these
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just sound business sense to use these tools.
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tools.
10:43
tools. >> I agree 100 obviously I agree 100%. Um
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>> I agree 100 obviously I agree 100%. Um
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>> I agree 100 obviously I agree 100%. Um what do do you agree with the statement?
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what do do you agree with the statement?
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what do do you agree with the statement? Success comes from a layered approach
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Success comes from a layered approach
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Success comes from a layered approach and clear roadmap alignment rather than
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and clear roadmap alignment rather than
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and clear roadmap alignment rather than a big bang execution. So slow and going
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a big bang execution. So slow and going
10:57
a big bang execution. So slow and going slow or
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slow or
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slow or >> fast fast.
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>> fast fast.
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>> fast fast. >> I am the wrong person to talk to about
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>> I am the wrong person to talk to about
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>> I am the wrong person to talk to about that. I have I told you my my story back
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that. I have I told you my my story back
11:04
that. I have I told you my my story back to WordPress here. So Matt Meleng shouts
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to WordPress here. So Matt Meleng shouts
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to WordPress here. So Matt Meleng shouts out to Matt Meleng the one of the
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out to Matt Meleng the one of the
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out to Matt Meleng the one of the leaders of the automatic uh project. He
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leaders of the automatic uh project. He
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leaders of the automatic uh project. He has coined me the cowboy coder meaning
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has coined me the cowboy coder meaning
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has coined me the cowboy coder meaning I will dep I I used to deploy sites
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I will dep I I used to deploy sites
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I will dep I I used to deploy sites while they were live. I used to I used
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while they were live. I used to I used
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while they were live. I used to I used to deploy plugins and themes and all
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to deploy plugins and themes and all
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to deploy plugins and themes and all types of act actionable items into a
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types of act actionable items into a
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types of act actionable items into a website and
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website and
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website and >> while it was live, not in a sandbox, but
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>> while it was live, not in a sandbox, but
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>> while it was live, not in a sandbox, but >> really come on there. We ain't got time
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>> really come on there. We ain't got time
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>> really come on there. We ain't got time for that. And many times I would get the
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for that. And many times I would get the
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for that. And many times I would get the infamous white screening of death on
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infamous white screening of death on
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infamous white screening of death on WordPress and actually kill my site.
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WordPress and actually kill my site.
11:39
WordPress and actually kill my site. >> So you're asking the wrong person about
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>> So you're asking the wrong person about
11:41
>> So you're asking the wrong person about slow and low or or fast and whatever the
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slow and low or or fast and whatever the
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slow and low or or fast and whatever the case may be. I recommend, however,
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case may be. I recommend, however,
11:48
case may be. I recommend, however, you know, from a recommendation
11:49
you know, from a recommendation
11:49
you know, from a recommendation perspective, if you're going to hire me
11:50
perspective, if you're going to hire me
11:50
perspective, if you're going to hire me to come in and talk to you and have
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to come in and talk to you and have
11:51
to come in and talk to you and have these conversations, definitely have
11:53
these conversations, definitely have
11:53
these conversations, definitely have some change management policies in
11:54
some change management policies in
11:54
some change management policies in place. Definitely have something where
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place. Definitely have something where
11:56
place. Definitely have something where you can you have that sandbox or you you
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you can you have that sandbox or you you
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you can you have that sandbox or you you have that environment that is test
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have that environment that is test
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have that environment that is test before fully deploying and have the
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before fully deploying and have the
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before fully deploying and have the contingency plan should something
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contingency plan should something
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contingency plan should something happen. That's why we have insurance. If
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happen. That's why we have insurance. If
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happen. That's why we have insurance. If it breaks,
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it breaks,
12:08
it breaks, >> be able to roll back to a I'll use a
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>> be able to roll back to a I'll use a
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>> be able to roll back to a I'll use a Windows term, a last known good so to
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Windows term, a last known good so to
12:12
Windows term, a last known good so to speak. So,
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speak. So,
12:13
speak. So, >> right. Right. There we go. You see, this
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>> right. Right. There we go. You see, this
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>> right. Right. There we go. You see, this is turning into an intervention, and I'm
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is turning into an intervention, and I'm
12:16
is turning into an intervention, and I'm I'm not sure I really like that, but
12:19
I'm not sure I really like that, but
12:19
I'm not sure I really like that, but okay.
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okay.
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okay. >> So, okay. So, we're going to move into
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>> So, okay. So, we're going to move into
12:23
>> So, okay. So, we're going to move into uh something else then. So, um alignment
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uh something else then. So, um alignment
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uh something else then. So, um alignment happens
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happens
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happens when the business isn't chasing trends,
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when the business isn't chasing trends,
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when the business isn't chasing trends, >> but make deliberate decisions about what
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>> but make deliberate decisions about what
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>> but make deliberate decisions about what it actually needs next to remain
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it actually needs next to remain
12:36
it actually needs next to remain intentional. And you know, and it's
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intentional. And you know, and it's
12:37
intentional. And you know, and it's again, everything relates back to what I
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again, everything relates back to what I
12:39
again, everything relates back to what I talk about with with AI, and that is
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talk about with with AI, and that is
12:41
talk about with with AI, and that is what is the problem you're trying to
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what is the problem you're trying to
12:43
what is the problem you're trying to solve. And if you don't even have
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solve. And if you don't even have
12:45
solve. And if you don't even have something or you don't you don't even
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something or you don't you don't even
12:46
something or you don't you don't even know what you're doing or where you're
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know what you're doing or where you're
12:48
know what you're doing or where you're going or you have the end in the mind,
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going or you have the end in the mind,
12:50
going or you have the end in the mind, then how are you actually supposed to
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then how are you actually supposed to
12:53
then how are you actually supposed to move forward and I think that that's
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move forward and I think that that's
12:56
move forward and I think that that's really really important. So how can
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really really important. So how can
12:58
really really important. So how can leaders ensure that they aren't just
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leaders ensure that they aren't just
13:00
leaders ensure that they aren't just chasing a trend, but building a
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chasing a trend, but building a
13:03
chasing a trend, but building a sustainable foundation? What are the
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sustainable foundation? What are the
13:05
sustainable foundation? What are the things that they need to check off in
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things that they need to check off in
13:07
things that they need to check off in their heads to know that they're doing
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their heads to know that they're doing
13:09
their heads to know that they're doing making the right move?
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making the right move?
13:12
making the right move? >> Is there value for from a financial
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>> Is there value for from a financial
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>> Is there value for from a financial perspective primarily? Right. Again,
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perspective primarily? Right. Again,
13:17
perspective primarily? Right. Again, because if it's a public company, this
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because if it's a public company, this
13:18
because if it's a public company, this is and and y'all please right
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is and and y'all please right
13:20
is and and y'all please right >> don't uh
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>> don't uh
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>> don't uh >> Yeah, I'm I'm not a investor in none of
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>> Yeah, I'm I'm not a investor in none of
13:24
>> Yeah, I'm I'm not a investor in none of these companies that I'm necessarily
13:25
these companies that I'm necessarily
13:25
these companies that I'm necessarily speaking about. That's why I not mention
13:26
speaking about. That's why I not mention
13:26
speaking about. That's why I not mention them any of them. But make sure it's
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them any of them. But make sure it's
13:28
them any of them. But make sure it's financially viable for the organization.
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financially viable for the organization.
13:30
financially viable for the organization. Make sure it's sustainable, right?
13:31
Make sure it's sustainable, right?
13:31
Make sure it's sustainable, right? because a lot of deployments could be
13:34
because a lot of deployments could be
13:34
because a lot of deployments could be very costly from the dollars and cents
13:36
very costly from the dollars and cents
13:36
very costly from the dollars and cents perspective. So you obviously want to
13:37
perspective. So you obviously want to
13:38
perspective. So you obviously want to make sure that it's financially viable
13:39
make sure that it's financially viable
13:39
make sure that it's financially viable should you deploy something then make
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should you deploy something then make
13:41
should you deploy something then make sure it's it's viable for growth of the
13:44
sure it's it's viable for growth of the
13:44
sure it's it's viable for growth of the organization. You don't want to stagnate
13:46
organization. You don't want to stagnate
13:46
organization. You don't want to stagnate yourself. You don't want to build
13:47
yourself. You don't want to build
13:47
yourself. You don't want to build something and and try to go too far over
13:50
something and and try to go too far over
13:50
something and and try to go too far over the edge and really then be stuck in a
13:53
the edge and really then be stuck in a
13:53
the edge and really then be stuck in a stalemate. So is it is it viable from a
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stalemate. So is it is it viable from a
13:55
stalemate. So is it is it viable from a financial side? Is it viable from a
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financial side? Is it viable from a
13:57
financial side? Is it viable from a efficiency and uh deliverable
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efficiency and uh deliverable
13:59
efficiency and uh deliverable perspective just for the organization?
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perspective just for the organization?
14:00
perspective just for the organization? You really want to make sure that piece
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You really want to make sure that piece
14:02
You really want to make sure that piece right there and how is it
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right there and how is it
14:05
right there and how is it um
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um
14:07
um received I guess I want to say by the
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received I guess I want to say by the
14:09
received I guess I want to say by the individuals within your organization
14:10
individuals within your organization
14:10
individuals within your organization that are going to have to deploy it and
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that are going to have to deploy it and
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that are going to have to deploy it and manage it.
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manage it.
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manage it. >> Right.
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>> Right.
14:13
>> Right. >> Right. You don't want to piss everybody
14:14
>> Right. You don't want to piss everybody
14:14
>> Right. You don't want to piss everybody off who you know you you throw this
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off who you know you you throw this
14:17
off who you know you you throw this directive down from on high down to
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directive down from on high down to
14:18
directive down from on high down to whomever. How is that going to be
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whomever. How is that going to be
14:21
whomever. How is that going to be received? Do they have to go do some
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received? Do they have to go do some
14:22
received? Do they have to go do some additional training? Do they have to go
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additional training? Do they have to go
14:24
additional training? Do they have to go do whatever the case may be? But make
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do whatever the case may be? But make
14:27
do whatever the case may be? But make sure that they buy into it as well. So
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sure that they buy into it as well. So
14:29
sure that they buy into it as well. So have some sponsors, have some champions
14:32
have some sponsors, have some champions
14:32
have some sponsors, have some champions to whatever this new methodology that
14:34
to whatever this new methodology that
14:34
to whatever this new methodology that you want to deploy such that it's not
14:37
you want to deploy such that it's not
14:37
you want to deploy such that it's not just you up against everyone else. Have
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just you up against everyone else. Have
14:39
just you up against everyone else. Have some lieutenants with you too as as you
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some lieutenants with you too as as you
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some lieutenants with you too as as you go up and say we we are going to go do
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go up and say we we are going to go do
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go up and say we we are going to go do this. Let's go do this together. So
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this. Let's go do this together. So
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this. Let's go do this together. So >> and we talked about this in the past
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>> and we talked about this in the past
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>> and we talked about this in the past about but getting buyin from from the
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about but getting buyin from from the
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about but getting buyin from from the team. Yeah. No matter what you're doing,
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team. Yeah. No matter what you're doing,
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team. Yeah. No matter what you're doing, you got to get buy in from the team
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you got to get buy in from the team
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you got to get buy in from the team because
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because
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because >> it's not going to work. It's just not
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>> it's not going to work. It's just not
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>> it's not going to work. It's just not going to work. So monetization is Oh, I
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going to work. So monetization is Oh, I
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going to work. So monetization is Oh, I said it right. is not it isn't about
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said it right. is not it isn't about
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said it right. is not it isn't about being current. It's about being
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being current. It's about being
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being current. It's about being intentional. And you've said that word a
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intentional. And you've said that word a
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intentional. And you've said that word a couple of times. It's about being
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couple of times. It's about being
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couple of times. It's about being intentional. So, and the organization
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intentional. So, and the organization
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intentional. So, and the organization that gets that right,
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that gets that right,
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that gets that right, >> is going to the leader of the
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>> is going to the leader of the
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>> is going to the leader of the >> organization gets that right is is
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>> organization gets that right is is
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>> organization gets that right is is winning, right?
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winning, right?
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winning, right? >> It's not rocket science. Again, I'm
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>> It's not rocket science. Again, I'm
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>> It's not rocket science. Again, I'm we're not trying to dumb down or or this
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we're not trying to dumb down or or this
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we're not trying to dumb down or or this or say in layman's terms, but some of
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or say in layman's terms, but some of
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or say in layman's terms, but some of the stuff that Karen and I, you know,
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the stuff that Karen and I, you know,
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the stuff that Karen and I, you know, we're talking about, folks. It's it
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we're talking about, folks. It's it
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we're talking about, folks. It's it isn't that hard once you actually stop
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isn't that hard once you actually stop
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isn't that hard once you actually stop and think with intentionality.
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and think with intentionality.
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and think with intentionality. >> That's why I keep using that word. If
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>> That's why I keep using that word. If
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>> That's why I keep using that word. If you understand what the
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you understand what the
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you understand what the costs are,
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costs are,
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costs are, >> right,
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>> right,
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>> right, >> from a financial side, from a time side,
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>> from a financial side, from a time side,
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>> from a financial side, from a time side, and from a from a just utilization side,
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and from a from a just utilization side,
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and from a from a just utilization side, what what hold on what was uh Casey was
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what what hold on what was uh Casey was
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what what hold on what was uh Casey was here the other day. cost and uh return
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here the other day. cost and uh return
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here the other day. cost and uh return on energy, return on investment, return
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on energy, return on investment, return
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on energy, return on investment, return on
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on
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on >> and life return.
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>> and life return.
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>> and life return. >> It's almost like this almost like these
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>> It's almost like this almost like these
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>> It's almost like this almost like these these shows are are supposed to go the
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these shows are are supposed to go the
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these shows are are supposed to go the way that they're going.
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way that they're going.
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way that they're going. >> You think
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>> You think
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>> You think we did the right thing then,
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we did the right thing then,
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we did the right thing then, >> right? But at the end of the day, that's
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>> right? But at the end of the day, that's
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>> right? But at the end of the day, that's what it is. Make sure that there's value
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what it is. Make sure that there's value
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what it is. Make sure that there's value from finance side, from the utilization
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from finance side, from the utilization
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from finance side, from the utilization of time, utilization of of your
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of time, utilization of of your
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of time, utilization of of your resources, from your people as well.
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resources, from your people as well.
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resources, from your people as well. Think about that before you actually
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Think about that before you actually
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Think about that before you actually sign on the dotted line or start
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sign on the dotted line or start
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sign on the dotted line or start deploying stuff. What? What? What is it
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deploying stuff. What? What? What is it
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deploying stuff. What? What? What is it going to cost me to do this?
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going to cost me to do this?
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going to cost me to do this? >> And you don't want to do a band-aid
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>> And you don't want to do a band-aid
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>> And you don't want to do a band-aid thing on this, guys. No, you don't do
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thing on this, guys. No, you don't do
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thing on this, guys. No, you don't do that. You know, you don't want it
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that. You know, you don't want it
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that. You know, you don't want it because I'm going to just throw out a
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because I'm going to just throw out a
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because I'm going to just throw out a phrase that we were laughing at earlier
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phrase that we were laughing at earlier
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phrase that we were laughing at earlier and I'm going to say it out loud. It's
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and I'm going to say it out loud. It's
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and I'm going to say it out loud. It's the hidden cost of Franken systems.
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>> Um, and that is the band that is
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>> Um, and that is the band that is
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>> Um, and that is the band that is literally danger of bandating putting a
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literally danger of bandating putting a
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literally danger of bandating putting a bandage on something that's not working.
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bandage on something that's not working.
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bandage on something that's not working. uh you know patching new technology on
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uh you know patching new technology on
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uh you know patching new technology on on old technology or patching technology
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on old technology or patching technology
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on old technology or patching technology at all on something that doesn't need
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at all on something that doesn't need
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at all on something that doesn't need technology. Um that's a problem. That's
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technology. Um that's a problem. That's
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technology. Um that's a problem. That's a bandage, right?
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a bandage, right?
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a bandage, right? >> Oh, that's good right there. Hold on.
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>> Oh, that's good right there. Hold on.
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>> Oh, that's good right there. Hold on. I'm I'm sorry. I'm going But what you
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I'm I'm sorry. I'm going But what you
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I'm I'm sorry. I'm going But what you said just right there instead of trying
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said just right there instead of trying
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said just right there instead of trying to throw the spaghetti against the wall
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to throw the spaghetti against the wall
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to throw the spaghetti against the wall and think that you have to deploy some
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and think that you have to deploy some
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and think that you have to deploy some type of technology to replace physical
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type of technology to replace physical
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type of technology to replace physical people or physical somebody doing the
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people or physical somebody doing the
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people or physical somebody doing the thing, the the spiral notebook and you
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thing, the the spiral notebook and you
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thing, the the spiral notebook and you want to replace
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want to replace
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want to replace >> that may not be the best thing to do.
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>> that may not be the best thing to do.
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>> that may not be the best thing to do. Maybe the cool sexy thing
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Maybe the cool sexy thing
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Maybe the cool sexy thing >> that may not be good for you.
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>> that may not be good for you.
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>> that may not be good for you. >> Are you listening to the news? There is
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>> Are you listening to the news? There is
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>> Are you listening to the news? There is a couple of companies that let go a ton
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a couple of companies that let go a ton
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a couple of companies that let go a ton of their employees because AI was here.
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of their employees because AI was here.
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of their employees because AI was here. And guess what? They they're having to
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And guess what? They they're having to
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And guess what? They they're having to hire them back.
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hire them back.
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hire them back. All transparency, I used to work at a
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All transparency, I used to work at a
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All transparency, I used to work at a couple of those companies. So,
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couple of those companies. So,
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couple of those companies. So, my LinkedIn is blowing up right now
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my LinkedIn is blowing up right now
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my LinkedIn is blowing up right now because some of those people at those
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because some of those people at those
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because some of those people at those companies are are are reaching out
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companies are are are reaching out
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companies are are are reaching out looking for some
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looking for some
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looking for some >> they're looking they're And what's the
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>> they're looking they're And what's the
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>> they're looking they're And what's the message to that, guys? is that yes,
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message to that, guys? is that yes,
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message to that, guys? is that yes, technology is here to stay, but figure
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technology is here to stay, but figure
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technology is here to stay, but figure out what's going to work for you and
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out what's going to work for you and
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out what's going to work for you and your company. Figure out what you need
17:44
your company. Figure out what you need
17:44
your company. Figure out what you need to modernize, what you don't need to
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to modernize, what you don't need to
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to modernize, what you don't need to modernize, you know, and and do what's
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modernize, you know, and and do what's
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modernize, you know, and and do what's right for your company and and do what's
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right for your company and and do what's
17:51
right for your company and and do what's right for your company. So, we have an
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right for your company. So, we have an
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right for your company. So, we have an audit. We have an action plan for
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audit. We have an action plan for
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audit. We have an action plan for everyone. Okay.
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everyone. Okay.
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everyone. Okay. >> Always give people homework. I like
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>> Always give people homework. I like
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>> Always give people homework. I like that.
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that.
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that. >> So, this is the digital collective
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>> So, this is the digital collective
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>> So, this is the digital collective action plan for this week. the audit.
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action plan for this week. the audit.
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action plan for this week. the audit. Identify which legacy systems still
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Identify which legacy systems still
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Identify which legacy systems still serve the core business mission. So go
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serve the core business mission. So go
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serve the core business mission. So go in and identify that.
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in and identify that.
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in and identify that. >> Two, the road map. Define what done
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>> Two, the road map. Define what done
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>> Two, the road map. Define what done looks like before executing a
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looks like before executing a
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looks like before executing a transition. Otherwise, begin with the
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transition. Otherwise, begin with the
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transition. Otherwise, begin with the end in mind. Know where you're going.
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end in mind. Know where you're going.
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end in mind. Know where you're going. >> Stephen Cubby, my favorite author.
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>> Stephen Cubby, my favorite author.
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>> Stephen Cubby, my favorite author. >> Yeah.
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>> Yeah.
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>> Yeah. >> Imagine that. Decide what done looks
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>> Imagine that. Decide what done looks
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>> Imagine that. Decide what done looks like. Okay. So when you get there, you
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like. Okay. So when you get there, you
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like. Okay. So when you get there, you know you're done. and the connection. I
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know you're done. and the connection. I
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know you're done. and the connection. I want to make sure you guys connect with
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want to make sure you guys connect with
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want to make sure you guys connect with us, right?
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us, right?
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us, right? >> Because this show is only as good as
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>> Because this show is only as good as
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>> Because this show is only as good as this show right here. Make sure
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this show right here. Make sure
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this show right here. Make sure >> Yeah, connect. Look down there. We got
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>> Yeah, connect. Look down there. We got
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>> Yeah, connect. Look down there. We got all our links down there and everything.
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all our links down there and everything.
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all our links down there and everything. And if you have some questions and
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And if you have some questions and
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And if you have some questions and comments about this, we want to know if
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comments about this, we want to know if
18:43
comments about this, we want to know if you think that we should be covering a
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you think that we should be covering a
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you think that we should be covering a topic that we have not yet covered.
18:48
topic that we have not yet covered.
18:48
topic that we have not yet covered. Maybe it's coming up, maybe it's not.
18:49
Maybe it's coming up, maybe it's not.
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Maybe it's coming up, maybe it's not. And we go, "Oh, great idea."
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And we go, "Oh, great idea."
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And we go, "Oh, great idea." I one thing I like Okay, I'm gonna say
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I one thing I like Okay, I'm gonna say
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I one thing I like Okay, I'm gonna say this and I I know you were wrapping up,
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this and I I know you were wrapping up,
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this and I I know you were wrapping up, but I I'm gonna give you some flowers
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but I I'm gonna give you some flowers
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but I I'm gonna give you some flowers just right now while while we're live
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just right now while while we're live
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just right now while while we're live >> because it it makes sense to to get to
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>> because it it makes sense to to get to
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>> because it it makes sense to to get to the point with some of these topics
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the point with some of these topics
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the point with some of these topics instead of trying to overstretch them.
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instead of trying to overstretch them.
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instead of trying to overstretch them. >> We've been live for 20 minutes right now
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>> We've been live for 20 minutes right now
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>> We've been live for 20 minutes right now and we covered
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and we covered
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and we covered >> this entire topic very succinctly and
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>> this entire topic very succinctly and
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>> this entire topic very succinctly and very completely.
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very completely.
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very completely. This answers the question that folks
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This answers the question that folks
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This answers the question that folks probably have and this brings value and
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probably have and this brings value and
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probably have and this brings value and if they have further requests for
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if they have further requests for
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if they have further requests for information,
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information,
19:27
information, our stuff is popping up at the bottom
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our stuff is popping up at the bottom
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our stuff is popping up at the bottom and they can they can reach out to us
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and they can they can reach out to us
19:30
and they can they can reach out to us and we can go into a much deeper 2011
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and we can go into a much deeper 2011
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and we can go into a much deeper 2011 301 401 level technical discussion.
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301 401 level technical discussion.
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301 401 level technical discussion. I just want to give folk I want to give
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I just want to give folk I want to give
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I just want to give folk I want to give Karen the the kudos on this and the
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Karen the the kudos on this and the
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Karen the the kudos on this and the flowers for coming up with the pillars,
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flowers for coming up with the pillars,
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flowers for coming up with the pillars, the strategy and and keeping me on task
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the strategy and and keeping me on task
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the strategy and and keeping me on task because I can get verbose folks. I can
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because I can get verbose folks. I can
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because I can get verbose folks. I can see I've already talked like 60 seconds
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see I've already talked like 60 seconds
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see I've already talked like 60 seconds and she's trying to wrap up. Okay,
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and she's trying to wrap up. Okay,
19:50
and she's trying to wrap up. Okay, that's
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that's
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that's >> No, I'm not. Actually, actually I'm not.
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>> No, I'm not. Actually, actually I'm not.
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>> No, I'm not. Actually, actually I'm not. And here's here's the thing. I
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And here's here's the thing. I
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And here's here's the thing. I appreciate I know you guys that are
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appreciate I know you guys that are
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appreciate I know you guys that are listening either you're listening right
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listening either you're listening right
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listening either you're listening right now live or a month from now whenever
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now live or a month from now whenever
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now live or a month from now whenever you're going to listen to this. We know
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you're going to listen to this. We know
20:01
you're going to listen to this. We know that you have so many things that you're
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that you have so many things that you're
20:03
that you have so many things that you're doing in your world and your life. And
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doing in your world and your life. And
20:05
doing in your world and your life. And we appreciate the fact that you took
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we appreciate the fact that you took
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we appreciate the fact that you took some time out to to to listen. But
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some time out to to to listen. But
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some time out to to to listen. But knowing that you're taking time out of
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knowing that you're taking time out of
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knowing that you're taking time out of your very busy lives, um I am very c uh
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your very busy lives, um I am very c uh
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your very busy lives, um I am very c uh you know I know that I don't want to sit
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you know I know that I don't want to sit
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you know I know that I don't want to sit for an hour. That's me. And so if we can
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for an hour. That's me. And so if we can
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for an hour. That's me. And so if we can economize the time here and bring out
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economize the time here and bring out
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economize the time here and bring out the salient points for all of you guys,
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the salient points for all of you guys,
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the salient points for all of you guys, that's what I'm going to try to do
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that's what I'm going to try to do
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that's what I'm going to try to do moving in the forward. Because again, if
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moving in the forward. Because again, if
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moving in the forward. Because again, if we can get through in 12, 20 minutes,
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we can get through in 12, 20 minutes,
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we can get through in 12, 20 minutes, whatever it was, 25 minutes, it's now 25
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whatever it was, 25 minutes, it's now 25
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whatever it was, 25 minutes, it's now 25 minutes. We'll just keep talking.
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minutes. We'll just keep talking.
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minutes. We'll just keep talking. >> I'm sorry.
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>> I'm sorry.
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>> I'm sorry. >> Um wouldn't you rather do that? That's
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>> Um wouldn't you rather do that? That's
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>> Um wouldn't you rather do that? That's my philosophy. If I can get this, if I
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my philosophy. If I can get this, if I
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my philosophy. If I can get this, if I can learn what I need to learn
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can learn what I need to learn
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can learn what I need to learn >> in a shorter amount of time, I'm going
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>> in a shorter amount of time, I'm going
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>> in a shorter amount of time, I'm going to vote for that every single time. If
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to vote for that every single time. If
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to vote for that every single time. If you guys like longer shows, watch it
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you guys like longer shows, watch it
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you guys like longer shows, watch it three times in a row. And
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three times in a row. And
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three times in a row. And >> I'm kidding. That was a joke. Sorry.
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>> I'm kidding. That was a joke. Sorry.
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>> I'm kidding. That was a joke. Sorry. That was That wasn't a joke, actually.
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That was That wasn't a joke, actually.
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That was That wasn't a joke, actually. You can watch it three times and really
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You can watch it three times and really
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You can watch it three times and really have it get into your brain, you know?
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have it get into your brain, you know?
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have it get into your brain, you know? >> That's all I got.
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>> That's all I got.
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>> That's all I got. >> Cool. Listen, uh, we are here to help.
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>> Cool. Listen, uh, we are here to help.
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>> Cool. Listen, uh, we are here to help. We are here to assist. We are here to go
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We are here to assist. We are here to go
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We are here to assist. We are here to go deeper if necessary. As Karen has said,
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deeper if necessary. As Karen has said,
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deeper if necessary. As Karen has said, you're seeing the links that are popping
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you're seeing the links that are popping
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you're seeing the links that are popping up. Check out the digital
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up. Check out the digital
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up. Check out the digital collective.network. Uh check out our
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collective.network. Uh check out our
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collective.network. Uh check out our LinkedIn pages. Everything will be in
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LinkedIn pages. Everything will be in
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LinkedIn pages. Everything will be in the description. This is what we do.
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the description. This is what we do.
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the description. This is what we do. Bringing value, striving to bring value
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Bringing value, striving to bring value
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Bringing value, striving to bring value to this complicated world of uh
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to this complicated world of uh
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to this complicated world of uh artificial intelligence and enterprise
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artificial intelligence and enterprise
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artificial intelligence and enterprise technology. Y'all be good to yourself.
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technology. Y'all be good to yourself.
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technology. Y'all be good to yourself. Karen, talk to you soon.
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Karen, talk to you soon.
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Karen, talk to you soon. >> Bye.
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