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hello everyone Karen glasser here and
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welcome to this episode of The Passion
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point this is the show where we follow
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passion ease just from all around the
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world who are following their passion
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making a living doing what they love and
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today's guest is Susan Jacobs I'm really
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excited to have season on especially
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because of this journey that I've been
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on my little white lie and Susan is is
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really pretty amazing she is a image
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professional an image profession I'm
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going to ask you a little while Susan
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what an image professional what that
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defines actually means and he helps
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clients increase their confidence
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there's credibility and profitability to
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authentic style she's also very
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passionate about giving back to the
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community and she does this in a variety
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of ways what is a charities and actually
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her favorite charity is make a wish and
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I'd love to talk about that with you as
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well Susan today one of her favorite
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quote she talks about is it takes a
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village and she's very pleased that she
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found a way to marry her passion for
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helping others reach their potential and
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giving back to the community all at the
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same time very very cool Susan welcome
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to the show so thank you but I'm so
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happy to be here Karen I appreciate it
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oh oh my gosh I'm so excited that you're
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here today and I like to start the show
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with the definition of passion so it's
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Webster's dictionary I'm just going to
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give you Webster's dictionary then i'ma
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ask what Susan 69 definition is Webster
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says the passion is an intense driving
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or overmastering healing or conviction
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that's what Webster says what it doesn't
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say much passion I can tell you that for
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me passion is part of my life without
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passion in my life in whatever it is I
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just feel a lot so passion guides me I
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feel like it's countries me it's Who I
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am I really love that definition in fact
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I can honestly say that's the first time
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that I've heard it described that way
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that you would be lost if you didn't
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have it that is such an interesting
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concept that you are driven by your
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passion literally right crisis is there
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in whatever I do most of the times it's
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an asset and sometimes not so much is
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ok well season this is this is really
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all about you today and I really would
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like you to tell us your journey to
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becoming an image consultant and your
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work in the community so go as far back
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as you want maybe not in utero but if
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the clock back as you want tell us your
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journey how did you get to where you are
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today you know it doesn't go a long way
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back Karen because I wasn't educated for
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many years I will say to keep seeing
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right back to when I was a young girl I
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went to a school where I wore uniforms
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my entire school career and but my mom
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was such a role model for me I can
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remember sitting at her dressing table
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watching her get ready for her day and I
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would say I'm us in my head I want to be
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just like her when I grow up impeccable
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a minimalist but always fine tuned and
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spa God in terms of how she presented
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herself and how she showed up giggly and
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then you don't go through school and
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into university I was one of those girls
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to be kind of like those in uniform for
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13 years one and I got to university I
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wasn't a person in a sweat McGee I was
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it was my stage the I breasts every day
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and it was fun because I suppose I like
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to experiment I was creative it was a
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creative outlet for me and I soon became
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the go-to person or friends and say see
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what why where we need now that that
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helps fun is that thing you went from
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being in this very rigid kind of
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environment wearing the same day there
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all the time and I can imagine it as a
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creative person what that did to your
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head right so here you went totally the
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other way and in fact you made yourself
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to a person it works out that when I
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became a teacher and it also happens
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that role it just seemed a cup to come
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up I don't tell you Karen as a teacher I
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you know I feel like I felt that we had
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had a potential huge influence on the
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children oh I use every day I dressed up
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for myself first but I wanted them to
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know that I appreciated them and I made
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an effort so that role my dressing
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people became something that other
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teachers would ask me about and one
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I do believe one of the principles that
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we know what we have to do something
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about how the younger teachers are
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connecting what do we do and I can
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remember this like a majestic and well
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it all starts with you because you're
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the box so that happen and yes so it was
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sort it was I think it was definitely
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where we commit to be because up to
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write down you know I had an inside kind
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of question to ask you do you believe
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that if we start with our children that
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our children can teach their parents as
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well as develop absolutely it is I am
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witness to that my children I've learned
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so many things for my children I've
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learned from my students I feel like to
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be honest I wasn't believer that life is
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a lifelong journey learning journey and
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when I not learning I will be in the
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ground well don't do that anytime soon
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okay no I do think that we learned I
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learned from every experience I'm
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thinking about today yeah i was at
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speaking at was asking you that because
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in i used to be a cantor and at its
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minute dog and I remember walking into
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the synagogue the first day with a
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Friday evening and i wish you you got
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dressed up you know you were addressed
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when you went up services and i remember
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walking into the services the very first
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time and everyone sitting in the
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congregation were in shorts and t-shirts
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oh and I cook it I just had a really
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hard time with that because I felt it it
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showed a little bit of a laugh respect
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however I grew to understand that at
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least they were there and so I kind of
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grill with that but we started teaching
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the kids respectful clothing when they
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came into the sanctuary and lo and
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behold as they started to wear more
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respectful clothing so did their parents
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and that was just curious if that was
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it's very true i think sugar to kind of
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teach us a lot and i do think that many
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people who are wise and open-minded can
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learn from their children because kids
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are unbiased they say it like it is they
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don't have your you know no bad little
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bit okay exactly I do like that and I
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so true so you became the go-to person
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and then what was your next step what
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happened after that so my daughter was
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living in Japan at the time we I took
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some time off TJ to go and visit her and
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being in Japan oh my goodness it was so
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apparent how the women have such respect
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for themselves Jews matter what social
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levels we visited where whether they
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were working in a palatial gardens or we
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were at a high-end restaurant the women
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has kind of pride this second our plane
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landed back in North America my husband
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looks at me and goes you know what you
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need to do something about this it was
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so startling the and I feel that women
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definitely are missing out were missing
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l don not making an effort not being
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aware on the council amazement that they
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potentially could have so my teaching
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colleagues actually we're the ones who
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encouraged me to do this my senator
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kidding I thought you've appreciated me
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in the board and you know I do a lot of
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his service training for teachers into
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the zoo this is something that people
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don't know they really don't understand
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and if you haven't had a role model
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growing nothing your life who who models
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appropriate behaviors for different
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audiences it's not there so I actually
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taught through year like dizzy
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wardrobing on the side to see it is
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going to work what people actually pay
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me to help them move forward in terms of
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how they're showing up my gosh I the
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next day here later not at the end and
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this is going on to my 10th year I've
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never looked back wow that's quite a
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story but I don't think that what I
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don't think you're saying maybe you are
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but I don't think that you're saying
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that when people pictured suggesting
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people need to put all their makeup on
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and get all my others they all petition
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and accident every single day from the
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moment they walk out I don't think
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that's what you're saying it's no no we
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haven't respect for yourself and showing
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up not unkempt and it is all about
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self-respect I will say you see and I
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have to be careful when I say this I
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after myself there are a couple of
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things that my husband will look at me
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and say oh that's interested in maybe
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they're taking it off it means because
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because it excuse me and I feel like my
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own skin it you know what I'm going to
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wear it's that when I filled up so that
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authentic self you feel that your
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clothes have to build one with you so
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just giving me a career in this industry
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because I so often not to you I just I'm
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fascinated as I said especially because
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of this journey that I'm on and the
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message is from me it's very much an
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alignment obviously with you it's we're
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not telling you how to get dressed and
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we're not telling you not to you know to
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get rid of your wrinkles or not to get
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rid of articles or two you know where a
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certain size shoe we're telling people
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and we're helping people encouraging
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people could see their best you write it
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be their best perfect okay it is so true
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this is about you you are your few y.o.u
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brand you are your unique and I feel
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like whether it's in business author
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progress especially where women who are
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stable mom if you want to feel better
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you can do that in terms of showing up
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by just making a bit of an effort and
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you know what you said something a
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minute ago about putting on your makeup
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and all that absolutely not it is all
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relevant to the situation and I am
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certainly one of those women who is a
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minimalist when it comes to make up to
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find out on the boat on our property why
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you know ona that smells beautiful it
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feels good right no I i agree i totally
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agree I I am like a no maintenance girl
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except when I get on camera and I'm more
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recently you know I have realized I've
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got to put some lipstick on because I
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disappear into the screen I might
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normally not wear lipstick during the
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day and also as your hair changes color
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and as as we as we age you know our
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colors change and we need to stay on the
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stick and stay on top of it so tell me
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if somebody comes to you and says no I
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need some help what is generally the
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first step that you do oh my goodness no
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you know what I asked a lot of questions
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I have learned to listen very carefully
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because there are things that they're
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not saying that then I can read turn
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around the word to make sure that I'm
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very clear that they're clear on what
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they need from me because many times
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women will call and/or we reach out
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through an email and I don't do the
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booking appointments through email just
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let you know Karen I feel it's important
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to have a conversation on the phone so
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that I can get a sense of who is this
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person they can also check me out and
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feel is if this connection going to work
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right it's going to be good for me and I
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also need this is something you didn't
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ask but I i need a person's going to be
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open-minded willing to maybe step out of
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the comfort zone a little bit every week
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some of the power because if I can't do
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my job if there's too many strengths
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that person who's not ready to move
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forward so that's really the first part
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of the whole journey with my clients
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many times women will call and think
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that they need one thing and by the man
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is a conversation Jay have realized that
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is not at all what they needed the
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ending is soften so thank you great you
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know and I think it's also not everybody
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is for everybody I mean there are
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lobbyists wrong a tremendous amount of
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image consultants wardrobe consultant
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you know up the hangout place for sure
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some people that call themselves at and
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have never actually trained and sent
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over you know we won't talk about that
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but I wasn't my consolation but how do
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you find somebody how would you suggest
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it be out the end of me how an
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individual person that knows that they
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want to up their game just a little bit
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or maybe just beat your best you and
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they need some help how did they find
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somebody what are the questions they can
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ask to make sure that they are going to
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be with the right person that will work
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for this I will tell you something that
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even easier now for them to find the
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right fit is that they can go on the
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potential in a consultant website multi
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next video what kidding I love to scroll
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through pictures and see what is that
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who is she engaged in how is she engaged
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when she is in the forefront and the
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background and i'd like to read about
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behind the team was this person up to I
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feel like that is how to be honest I got
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on track with some of your peers
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yourself if you can tell a lot about
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people who they are by doing your
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homework and you know and it needs to be
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some of it if smoking mirrors I get that
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but you will be able to tell that person
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can read through all of that and i will
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tell you many many time i had a phone
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call or an email that says i have gone
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through your website I've read about you
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I've watched your videos I've seen you
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support in terms of charities and I I
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have eliminated others because of X
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lanza till I douching it feels it does
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what you need to do is do your homework
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well I so exactly i think that's so
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important and while while we're on that
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subject right now for those of you who
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want to get in touch with Susan just I'm
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going to throw it out by the way guys
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everything that we talked about is going
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to be in the post right below all of the
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links all the ways to get in touch with
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do but just in case you're wondering
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wife is very minute you might be
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watching the show and you say I have to
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go right now I gotta go check her out a
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website yes it's ww personal style
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consulting com and when you go there
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you're going to be able to do exactly
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what they was talking about check her
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out and that's what you want to do you
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want to check her out what other things
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as a as a woman i do do dress men as
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well okay i often end up with husband
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and the I attacking a woman will reach
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out and then that becomes they always
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stay with the US during the appointment
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which is great because ultimately they
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become a client as well so yes I do but
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primarily women Karen okay so a woman is
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looking around they're going to come to
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you and they they they tied your your it
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generally Oh what do you go shopping
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with them after you've asked all the
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questions what do you do how does
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support I've never actually all these
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mouths silently that's fine and everyone
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I have to say this is the way I do is I
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was trained by someone
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it's not far from you Brenda can sell
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and i like that it was an evergreen sort
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of strategy i have a style appointment
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which is a for our initial appointment
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with all of the clients when we get
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together they will have completed some
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paper where self-discovery work for me
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so that we can go over together in
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person there are a couple of exercises
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we give together I really need to see
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them in their sleep I can tell a lot
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about them when I see where they live
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what they surround the seller closet and
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what they're actually got the last
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person I want to see ya because you know
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like it busy I can work on the closet
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but I want to know who is this person
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how am I going with you ninety-nine
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point nine percent full wardrobe that is
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perfect when I've only met them for four
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hours so it's a lot of disrespected and
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listening and dialogue and we come up
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with words and they improve the words
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that a cuff that we have friends I a
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person say or I said who you describe
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that this way I see that a weird savable
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on wood in your call you like organic
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you like herbal tea ICP you have a
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perennial garden all of those things
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lead me to a certain style personality I
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will have words and then I will show
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them what their words look like in terms
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of wardrobe pieces got home I go to the
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closet and they will make an outfit for
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me off thank you do you see cheap here
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do you see reliable d2c sassy and
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usually they're going ok I know why it
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is they're working because that's how
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they're not really aligning who they are
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on the outside with what trying to be to
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come out from the inside well it sounds
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like you're not just Pete you're not
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just dressing them you're chopping them
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how to be their own dresser all when
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they go out to buy new pieces sitting on
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their shoulders they get a voice right
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this sure what would you do yes I must
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tell you that I have clients who really
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there's very busy business women's they
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have full life they don't want to know
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why I do they don't want to know why it
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works they just want to say
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Connect steps all right we shop and then
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I go back to their home after they have
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had a chance to play with the clothes
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for a couple of weeks and we will do
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digital recordings so i will take
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pictures on their iphones for them or
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some people like past i lay like a
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wardrobe chart so that they're going to
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see that investment piece that dress
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that we spent five hundred dollars on
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i'm going to show that three four five
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ways than they can wear it a different
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dress level to a networking event for
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corporate event on a weekend going to
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wine tasting so that's really the value
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teeth so they see the return on that
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investment and then don't have to worry
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about having a little bit 50 refer for
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leaving us this is my weekend for them
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i'm not one of those people that want to
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have all those things they need to have
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pieces that were taste in men harmony I
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missing max what mom used to say that's
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that's right what are you what do you
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say to or respond when you see these
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magazine articles and these interviews
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of people to say when you hit 40 you
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should not wear this when you are this
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stage you shouldn't you shouldn't have
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gray hair when you're 30 Oh what to say
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what's your response when people say oh
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well I was told I can't do that because
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I'm certain age in the state my
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experiences dl rules are made to be
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broken what a CP isn't is now whatever
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works for you now this is where we're
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going because it doesn't matter what
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happened yesterday or about your size
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too skinny beings don't fit here's my
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solution get rid of them let's not worry
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about it might be just here to the
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present and I work with I we don't I
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don't have any negative self-talk during
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my appointment that's made very clear
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and I say it didn't like I think I've
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read or someone that you've you dolt
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tears in the air look in the mirror you
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need to know what you're missing out on
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and what all of us are seeing because
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that's the reality shift your focus so
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that's what I say about people in the
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camera when I get people on camera with
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me i would say nine out of ten people
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say i hate the way i look off the camera
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and I snap out of it you looking at me
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how you look the yeah see you on camera
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is exactly how they see you in person
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that is I mean it's us who have to get
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with all I am 100-percent in agreement
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with you I'm the one who said it go look
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at yourself in the mirror nice yourself
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love yourself get to see the parts that
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you really really love look at the part
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that maybe you don't love so much but
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then there's ways to nice make it okay
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right there's ways to make those that
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you don't like disappear so you know we
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can do that with strategic coming right
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I do this to myself and I see tsunami um
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but I wanted to say also that I feel
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like it's very much coaching than sheer
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maybe I know it's different I don't call
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myself a personal shopper I really I do
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not show up with my client until I and
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work through the very first style
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appointment yes I don't want to just fly
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them close I won't be closed to be part
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of them I want them to put them on and
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love them and I want those clothes to be
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there until their system so i think that
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set you apart I think that kiddo okay
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style stylist so okay I'm going to ask
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you I'm going to give you a quote
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because I love quotes every week I
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system and this week's quote is and i'm
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going to read it because I'm 16 can't
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remember you know what leadership is
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about making others better as a result
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of your presence and making sure that
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impact lasts in your absence cool
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absolutely that amazing I really like
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that and I think that's why it's
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important to be listening to our clients
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and I don't tell you that typically it
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was hard for me coming from a teaching
21:23
role you are teaching you are talking
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passion yes i can remember it's a period
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of time where on the back of my office
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or ahead of time and it says just stop
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talking because we are stickers we want
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to make it better that's not sustainable
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we know that so I really shifted in
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hearing what they have to say and boy
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that's that passion I may see this
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person differently since they're not
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there this is going to work I never want
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the client to say to me I have never
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worn that piece of clothing that step
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that means I didn't listen there was
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something that went wrong so that kind
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of mic died I really appreciate that I
22:04
know that your favorite quote is to take
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the village can you tell us why what do
22:08
you like white on rice I found it
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forever and I really don't know why I
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guess I feel like we are always stronger
22:14
with collaboration and others and I
22:17
don't think anyone is an island and i
22:20
feel like when i see that i believe you
22:22
know it sort of is a red flag to me that
22:25
that's not the case I was again a role
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models my parents were very big
22:30
community minded people I felt the
22:33
thought was important it's levels the
22:35
playing field I feel that a lot of
22:38
people grow up in circumstances and we
22:42
need to walk in other people too we can
22:44
appreciate not everyone I i was told
22:47
recently not everyone cares about that
22:50
fine but the people that I surround
22:53
myself with that is their hardest there
22:56
come they are Tommy takes at the village
22:59
when look at I I feel like through my
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consulting business I haven't been able
23:05
like you said and strands of ice
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headphone on fashion event not typical
23:10
fashion shows because I'm showcasing
23:12
women who never in a million years would
23:15
have gone on a stage and been able to
23:19
say here's how I used to look here's the
23:21
image of me here's where I am today
23:23
there why this is important if you can
23:27
do that and then you can make money for
23:29
an organization that's important like
23:31
make a wish we have a place my sister's
23:34
place why wouldn't you do that it just
23:36
it's just nice attend so why not I it's
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wonderful um to your one as well you all
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you know I really appreciate the message
23:47
that you have and I appreciate the fact
23:49
that you're still community-minded your
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quotas community-minded your journey has
23:54
been community-minded if any last
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thoughts you want to share with the
23:57
audience before we say goodbye I can't
23:59
believe how fast this has gone by hey
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welcome I think that we need to really
24:04
think about and I'm doing it myself as
24:07
we age and we're at this age is remember
24:10
that it all it's all about ourselves
24:13
if you allow that negative Nelly to take
24:16
over you're not you're not going to be
24:18
happy you're not going to feel you're
24:20
not going to enjoy your life it is very
24:22
short latest I know cliche but embrace
24:25
it I cannot tell you Karen that I when
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the longer maxi dresses and the little
24:31
blue being became on friend year ago I
24:33
thought oh my god i want to do that
24:35
thought be going there late at this age
24:38
about a kid and I want to see the look
24:41
nothing salt okay but I designer deal
24:44
while I'm using it and I can't
24:46
deliberated and you know what just do it
24:50
it's not to be when what people might
24:52
notice you knew as much as you think
24:54
it's you know if you need to want 20
24:56
minutes back to what you do in your
24:58
engaging your China you're building a
25:00
relationship so let's move on well would
25:04
you agree they're probably worrying
25:05
about how they look oh god don't be
25:07
looking worried about themself we just
25:09
feel it great comment just delicious
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25:13
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